I am just a medical student, I am not a doctor yet

This morning started off like any other. I parked my car, walked into Starbucks and pulled up my iPhone app while waiting in line. The usual suspects were already there  – the elderly fellow that always flirts with the baristas, the business man with his freshly pressed suit and the tired-looking mother. As I approached the counter, I ordered my usual summer morning beverage and went through the motions to pay.

As I meandered toward the pick up counter, one of the baristas grabbed my attention: “Hey, Amanda! You’re in medical school, right?”

I stopped in my tracks and turned my attention toward him. Immediately, I braced myself for the worst; in our Medical Humanities course, the professors warned us that upon entering the profession, family and friends would suddenly start turning to us with their medical questions. We were cautioned that because there would be no escaping the situation, we needed establish an appropriate response to the request. But never did I imagine that as a first year medical student, an acquaintance would turn to me for advice.

“Yes, but …”

He cut me off. “I have lower back pain that radiates down my leg …”

The gears in my head started turning. I thought back to my latest clinical experience – one of our patients described a similar chief complaint and during our discussion with the preceptor, we discussed differential diagnoses for that particular symptom. I tried to clear the cobwebs clouding my knowledge of Anatomy and Neuroscience and considered the nerves that could be affected. I wondered if there was an inciting event that precipitated the pain. But in the end, although these thoughts raced through my mind, I never had any intention of sharing them.

“… and I was wondering …”

As I stood there listening to him, it struck me how entering medicine was almost synonymous with being entrusted with a stranger’s thoughts, feelings and ultimately, their life. We are taught how to ask open-ended questions and how to probe for the whole story. We are told to trust our instincts if something just doesn’t feel right. But for the most part, patients come prepared to talk about what is bothering them because it is embedded into our culture to have an unspoken confidence in physicians.

As a medical student, we reside in a paradoxical limbo. In order to become a competent physician, we need to interview patients and suggest diagnoses. We need to try procedures or practice them to obtain perfection. However, because we have little to no experience, patients tend to shy away from our (supervised) care. Additionally, at this early stage of training, most of us do not feel confident in our knowledge to provide even basic explanations of diseases.

When he continued with, “… what kind of doctor should I go see?” I let out of a sigh of relief and directed him toward his internist. This time, I was posed with a question that I could answer. But the situation gave me an opportunity to consider how I would respond to future questions that I am not qualified to answer. In class, our professors explained that when faced with a medical question outside of the hospital, they defer to the patient’s internist because they do not know the details of their medical history. Today, had I been faced with that situation, I would have responded the same way but with the added note that I am just a medical student; I am not a doctor.

Amanda Xi is a medical student who blogs at And Thus, It Begins and can be reached on Twitter @amandasxi.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002934866034 PJ Dew

    I get asked stuff as a nurse all the time.

    • http://www.amandaxi.com/ Amanda Xi

      Outside of the hospital, how do you respond? I imagine that there’s some difficulty in answering medical questions when taken out of context of a patient’s history.

  • drseno

    Don’t undermine yourself. You’re way more than just a student of any discipline. You’re an infinite being of possibilities unimagined…and beyond a title. So, who’s Amanda outside of Medical school? Please keep that :)

    PJ is right, everyone talks all the time and to everyone about their situations. People talk to nurses, doctors, dentists, veterinarians, psychologists, teachers, other mothers, grandmothers, engineers and on and on; and they talk to each other all the time, trying to ‘figure’ out their way to comfort and information that may help.

    Now that I think about it, if you think you’re ‘just a student’ now; you’ll just be a doctor when you’re a doctor. You’re a human being with knowledge and developing knowledge in a specialty. You have to be way more than that to be authentic, open and aware.

    Don’t lose sight of what you already are by thinking you’re becoming something more. You’re greater than that already.

    And please beware of thinking that others are ‘just’ others because they’re not doctors. That would be so not true.

    Hope you get the best!

    • http://www.amandaxi.com/ Amanda Xi

      I really appreciate this comment and generally agree with the sentiment, but I do think that with how training is set up, much of the time we are treated by patients and other healthcare professionals in general as though we are *just* medical students due to our experience [or lack thereof]. It’s hard to shake off the modifier when it’s somewhat ingrained.

  • http://www.alittlehappi.blogspot.com/ Sophie

    A lot of my peers talk about how they are greeted by their family as if they are MDs and not MDs-to-be. I think just having someone close to you that you trust who is in medical school makes you forget that they are just in school! Familiarity almost seems to trump experience. I can’t wait till the day I actually have my MD and I can give helpful advice!

    alittlehappi.blogspot.com

  • ORMD

    My first preceptor taught me a valuable lesson: never refer to yourself as JUST a med student. You are a valuable part of the care team and you wouldn’t be where you are by just being an MS1 or just an MS2. You have skills and knowledge already that can be vital and contribute to patient care. Take some ownership of your status as a med student, while recognizing your limitations. You’ve worked hard to get where you are. The advice has done me well and I hope it does the same for you. All best.

    • http://www.amandaxi.com/ Amanda Xi

      Great point and lesson. However, I do believe that there is a point to be made about what it means to be a medical student — some individuals might equate medical student with physician, thus, I think it’s vital to make your level of training apparent. Even though I know a lot of information now, I still am just scratching the surface and do not feel comfortable advising anyone on their medical questions. 

  • http://www.amandaxi.com/ Amanda Xi

    Before graduating and even after graduating there are a lot of ethical issues to consider when discussing medical questions outside of the hospital/medical setting [even with family members]. My main goal with this entry was to make this evident to my readers. Medical information should be freely shared, but advice is a different story.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_347QEL3HBMINQRAFAQEM56UGJY hgd

    Seriously, are readers this dense? Its obvious the writer is making stuff up, especially at first.  Your line at starbucks? What did you do with your iphone? record the entire conversation? How did you remember what was happening? “The elder man?”  No descriptive but “elder” man? Dont give me privacy protection BS.  

    You know and I know that there was no elder man.  What’d you do instead on your iPhone? 

    Why do students insist on making up bs stories for the sake of creativity? 

    You know what probably happened? You heard of a few experiences that other med students asked or professors warned us about and decided to make a story.  

    Awful one at that.

    If you’re gonna write stuff like this then

    1. learn how to write. Avoid words like meandered.  You meandered up to the line? what was that? Microsoft Thesaurus helping you? What did you write initially? walked up to? Oh no, you had have “meandered.”  No way you walked.  You could have used lumbered and I’d believe you more.  People don’t meander to the pick up counter.  Nice try.  

    “it struck you” how you are entrusted? Really? While you were standing? Not thinking, “I just want my #@@* coffee, you thought about all this? Really? I’m blown away.  Please, what insights must be meandering through your head at any moment! (see what I did there.  Yeah you do).  
     2.  Learn how to lie. If youre gonna make up stuff- then put some more details in.  Not “elderly man.” And no, making it “quirky” by having him flirt doesn’t make it any better.  It comes off forced. 
    3.  Please stick to med school.  You’re better off. 
    4. Just because Atul Gawande says write something doesnt mean you should.  He’s a Rhodes Scholar. 
    5.  Thanks.

    • http://www.amandaxi.com/ Amanda Xi

      There’s a Starbucks app available for most smartphones that allows you to pay for your purchase. That’s what I was doing with my phone.

      The elder man wasn’t important — he was there [and is always there in the morning] so I felt like including him to paint the scene for my readers.

      This story wasn’t fabricated, nor did the event occur 100% as I depicted it, but that’s medical writing for you. Please provide some insight into how you would approach medical writing — I personally subscribe to taking my personal experiences and changing identifying features. For the most part, what I write is what happened. 

      As for your hostility toward the word, “meandered” — I’ll consider other adjectives in the future. However, I stand by my selected word since that’s exactly what I did on my way to the pick up counter. I didn’t just walk there, I followed a winding course that included looking at the merchandise, peeking at the headline NYT stories, etc. 

      Otherwise, thank you for your opinion!

      • Joseph Vercellone

        Amanda simply ignore those that are so full of self-hatred that they have to spew their bile at those that put an effort into improving themselves and sharing their experiences with others. You will never win against pettiness.

      • http://twitter.com/tejmandava Sivateja Mandava

        Amanda, I would just like to address some of hgd’s questions that you missed.

        1. Seriously, are the reader’s this dense?
        No, they are not dense.  However, with comments like yours I begin to have my doubts.  My faith is still holding though, maybe you will be so kind as to shake it again.

        2. Your line at starbucks?
        I can see your contention here, it technically was not her line. Thank you for pointing that out, you are so smart.  Although, I don’t remember her claiming possession of it; are we reading the same post?

        3. How did you remember what was happening?
        It turns out that Amanda does not have a beta-amyloid build up in her brain characteristic of the “elderly” disease called Alzheimer’s.  She can in fact remember things, which is quite important when it comes to being successful as a medical student.  The same goes for being successful as a writer.

        4. Why do students insist on making up bs stories for the sake of creativity?
        I would point out that creativity in medicine is what separates an average physician from a phenomenal one, but that is just my opinion.  So instead, I will just say that if you don’t like stories and can’t appreciate them whether or not they are based in reality or completely false, then your probably better off not reading blogs.

        AND

        5. You know what probably happened?
        I’m sure she does know what “probably” happened.  Now go find something else to do with your time.

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