Why patients flock to alternative medicine providers

As medical practitioners, we are trained to fight disease, becoming familiar with all the metaphors of war, victory, failure, and the Cartesian views of deductive reasoning and mind being separate from body. Through said reasoning, we come to believe in a passive view of health; that health is an absence of something, in this case dis-ease. From that vantage point, it is no wonder medical practitioners have such high rates of burnout, fighting a never-ending uphill battle against bacteria, microbes, viruses and the like in order to help our patients reach a nebulous state of grace in body and mind.

Our changing medical terrain is showing us that it is time we redefined the word “health.”

Modern medicine excels at treating acute conditions, but the most frequently treated health issues are not acute in nature. A review compiled by an electronic health records software company of over 7 million primary care providers in early 2011 showed that almost all of the top 25 reasons why people were seeking medical care were for symptoms related to chronic conditions. The most common conditions were hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and diabetes, with back pain, anxiety, and obesity following closely behind (so to speak). These patients form the financial backbone of most primary care providers’ practices, and they are not happy with the way they’re being treated. I echo their dissatisfaction with modern medicine from my anecdotal observation as an “alternative” practitioner, and the research backs this up.

New studies by Survey Sampling International and The Research Intelligence Group show that two-thirds of patients around the world feel disrespected by their physicians. Unclear communication is a prime reason for patients’ dissatisfaction.  About a quarter of patients globally complain that physicians don’t answer questions, don’t involve them in treatment decisions and use medical terms with no explanation.  This appears to be a direct outcome of doctors not spending enough time with patients (44%).

These facts alone may account for patients seeking out practitioners of various complementary and alternative medical modalities (CAM). A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the majority of alternative medicine users appear to be doing so largely because “they find these healthcare alternatives to be more congruent with their own values, beliefs, and philosophical orientations toward health and life.” In particular, subjects reported a holistic orientation to health, a transformational experience that changed their worldview.

Whether or not you “believe” in acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathy, homeopathy, or any of the myriad alternative medical options people are may turn to, is immaterial. The fact is that patients are increasingly taking matters into their own hands and seeking out alternative solutions. The most recent study of CAM usage I could find was in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) from 1997.  It showed that the number of Americans using an alternative therapy rose from 33% in 1990 to 42% in 1997, and some research estimates that the number may be as high as 70% today.  The NEJM study also found that, in 1997, Americans spent more than $27 billion on these therapies, exceeding out-of-pocket spending for all U.S. hospitalizations, and that the number of patient visits to CAM providers exceeded those to primary care physicians.

The bottom line is that people would have no reason to seek out alternative medical options if modern medicine was solving for their issues, or if patients felt their treatment was congruent with their beliefs and expectations. The reason I’m in business is not only because modern medicine is largely ineffective for a large number of patients with chronic medical conditions; it is because they are not getting the attention they feel they deserve from their primary care providers. They don’t feel they are being “heard” by their doctors.

I often agree that alternative medicine may not work any better than modern western medicine for many of the chronic conditions that we attempt to treat. So what can we do for the massive number of patients who come to us seeking relief from chronic, unresolved issues that may have no effective treatment?

We must treat what we are able, and at the same time reorient our patients, reframe their issues such that a potential life living with their condition is not so much a dark place to end up as an enlightening new opportunity.  I say this not to be condescending, not to “give up” on medicine as such, but because it is the right thing to do as a health care professional and it may actually be more in line with our patients’ expectations.  And what is the alternative, really?  To send them back out the door, heavier in spirit, lighter in wallet, and alone in their condition?

Our current view of health as the absence of disease is not sustainable, and the fact that so many people are seeking alternative views and taking matters into their own hands is only further evidence that our fundamental understanding of what health is needs to change. In order to be effective, in medicine or anything else, our goals need to be framed in a way where we move toward an outcome rather than away from one. Toward an understanding of health rather than away from disease. In that spirit, we may choose to define health as a dynamic state where flexibility is the cornerstone. Health may simply be the flexibility to adapt to circumstances and to continue to have an acceptable quality of life. Such a definition changes where we as healthcare practitioners fit into the lives of our patients. We become much more the arbiters of helpful information in our patients’ journey toward a continued quality of life than the center of their hope that they can get rid of something.

Jason Luban is a licensed acupuncturist and teaches continuing education courses on non-verbal medical communication at Practice Rapport.

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  • Anonymous

    Like so much there are great people, okay people, not okay people and that includes all practicing “healing”.  My mother was enthrall to natural treatments and decided I didn’t need to be on penicillin following one attack of Rheumatic fever.  The second attack changed her mind.  Our family doctor and many others I have met, including the ones at Colorado’s Kaiser Permanente deserve all possible praise.  Others need the lessons you talk about.  Will share this on my blog.  Thank you. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Reznick/100000549195050 Steven Reznick

    Its a complex question as to why individuals shun traditional care for alternative care. People no longer have a doctor who knows them over time and can discuss the options with them. In many places where insurance is available patients change plans yearly and with it comes a new panel of practitioners to choose from. Decisions on medical care are often cultural and depend on what part of the world your ancestors come from.The USA is a melting pot.  Our latest influx of immigration has been from Asia and Latin America where different schools of medicine prevail so that recent arrivals and their offspring seek different treatment options. Our health literacy in fact our education on health has deteriorated with school district budget woes causing the elimination of health and hygiene courses which provided a basic core curriculum on healthy living and disease prevention which encouraged scientific approach to medical decision making. We are in an era of anti science. Presidential candidates are citing creationism ahead of scientific theories. While faith based decision making may apply to some areas of science it doesn’t necessarily apply to health prevention where even organizations like the Tebow Foundation, well known for spreading Christianity still bring physicians to the poor and underprivileged children at their orphanages. Last but not least, since so much of the advertising and non prescription pharmaceutical sales is not evaluated or regulated Americans believe it is OK even if they are more likely to become ill from fat soluble vitamin overload than from deficiencies. Couple this with the fact that manufacturers of alternative medicines rarely invest the time and money in the type of double blinded controlled and peer reviewed studies that will define if their product does what they claim it does.  Why should they, the public buys it anyway?

    • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

      Presidential candidates are citing creationism ahead of scientific theories.>>>>>

      Wanna elaborate?  Did you read Ann Coulter this week?  Great article on why Darwinism has been disproven by science.  Science is not always concrete….claims to have killed philosophy….hmmm….I will have to think about that:)  But the statement you made doesn’t seem to fit…….it seems to be created to be politically provocative…….hmmm……..

      School budgets equating with health literacy?   Have you read the studies on this?    Now do you know why what you share isn’t really scientific nor concrete.

      • http://www.facebook.com/brianpcurry Brian Curry

        Did you read Ann Coulter this week?  Great article on why Darwinism has been disproven by science.

        It was not a great article in the slightest, Alice. Not only was it poorly written, but it was flat-out wrong in its particulars. That Ann, she ain’t no scientist, and it shows. She’s essentially arguing from irreducible complexity, an argument that was fairly readily dispatched years ago. You really should look into The Panda’s Thumb. If I’m in the mood for science, I tend to read sources written by, oh, I don’t know, scientists.

        • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

          Well….you sorta proved my points…first point is science is not concrete in many cases….and you didn’t really read the article. Did you read scientists responses to Hawkings and Dawkins? Did you read the book she got her info from…are you sitting down? Ann used work from….um….scientists. Skepticism is great, useful….but denialism is a hurdle to the truth.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Reznick/100000549195050 Steven Reznick

        The problem with the information age is that much of the information out there is garbage and our citizens have not had the determination and discipline to study and learn how to evaluate what is worth knowing and what doesnt work. As for reading the studies , I read peer reviewed studies all day long. I have also read numerous educational studies as part of  public school advisory committees and in discussions with my wife ( a masters level educator) and her colleagues. On a personal level I will encourage my loved ones to live a healthy life style, eat a balanced and healthy diet to get their nutrients, exercise regularly , go for regular checkups with a physician they trust and who knows them and their family history, and put chemicals in their body only after educating themselves about the chemicals and discussing the pros and cons with their physician. The great thing about America is that everyone has the freedom to do what they want. Unfortunately when they become ill from poor choices or poor luck everyone else in the society ends up paying for their care eventually for the illnesses they develop through their free choices.

        • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

          But even if you took at the most brilliant minds in the universe they would disagree with each other about science and education. I study both…I believe the Department of Ed should be abolished and leave it to each state…the stats show they have done nothing to improve education. Actually, out of the countries that will submit I believe we are actually doing worse now than we were the DOE was created.

          It is not a money problem, nor more government regulation…it is a societal problem where we look to the government to spend more while we remain less accountable. In 40 years….trillions of dollars spent we have did little to put a dent in poverty, nor education. Money is not the issue. We have created a society that doesn’t look within themselves to fix a problem…..but if patients do get interested in helping themselves we are often scoffed at by doctors….who think their level of expertise reigns supreme. I admire and respect most doctors….but there is such widespread disagreement amidst your group….but I really admire is a doctor who can think outside the box. The best selling author Jerome Groopman went to six top specialists and got four different recommendations. Experts very often disagree.

          I have so much experience with doctors (two kids who have/had cancer…etc.)…my doctor friends would disagree with you…so leaning on credentials is limiting. Try figuring out cancer treatment for your child while dealing with only good research. The “experts” disagree…..so what one “expert” labels trash…another will embrace. Leaning on credentials is limiting….a plus…and often a minus when they prefer a patient to be a blank slate and act like Svengali, or want treated like God while performing at a far less godlike level.

          In other words….doctors need to broaden their horizons a bit and look at more information than what suits their own ideology and see the patients as someone whose opinion matters….but stay open minded and patient enough to know why the patient is clinging to a path they feel may work for them…and that has nothing to do with their level of education.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Reznick/100000549195050 Steven Reznick

            Alice I am sorry to hear about the extreme adversity you have endured and agonizing decisions and choices you faced over your childrens’ health. I can not imagine anything more painful. Yes there are many controversial areas in oncology and hematology and treatment of life threatening illnesses. I have been fortunate to have and take the time to find cutting edge oncologists and centers of excellence who are not only the doctors who teach other doctors in their specialty how to treat a disease, but are what we call ” menches” or real human beings. The combination of compassion , humanism and science has served my ill patients well. My patients assist me with the research in finding these special clinicians but the key is mutual trust and respect with my patients and open discussion of ideas and theories so that they have a firm foundation of facts that are proven with which to make their heath care decisions. Unfortunately the firm foundation of fact does not exist with many of the commercially touted treatments so it is difficult to make a good decision. I wish you the best of luck

          • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

            Well…..the best part of this post was, “My patients assist me”….although, it was a very good post.  Your patients are very fortunate.   I had to visit a doctor recently and he knew me from these boards.  Egads….before he looked at my rash, I got a half an hour lecture on why Obamacare is great stuff….if I tried to answer he would touch my arm and say, “Let me finish!”  I finally got a word in….and he said, “Now don’t go saying I am a socialist!”  It was amusing…but I had to remind him to please give me something for the rash on my neck (yes, I realize he is probably reading this……hey….knock off the politics during an office visit! ha!)  Then I had to remind him to see if my ear infection had cleared up….I was laughing by this time and he looked in my ear and said he could see the light on the wall………oh brother……so I asked for a sucker for being a good patient. :)

            I share this because he left patients waiting while debating me for about 40 minutes over Obamacare.  I think politics and medicine overlap like a type of Venn diagram…but I get flustered when doctors allow their political ideologies to rule their medicinal care in the office.  I would make a horrible doctor….I would want to talk about politics all day.  So….I appreciate the ability to come here and gain more understanding about how different people in lab coats view patients….sorta invaluable….and this is on my mind as-of-late because the one doctor I would have thrown myself under a bus for quit the Clinic…we meet our new surgeon tomorrow……I miss our security blanket…he was just a great human being, and amazing doctor.

      • http://profiles.google.com/molly.ciliberti Molly Ciliberti

        Alice, if you believe Ann Coulter that is your real problem. She is an idiot and a self declared genius. She is using you and others to keep her name in the headlights. She doesn’t understand science or scientific method. She is a charlatan who spends a lot of time flinging her bleached blonde hair around trying to look sexy while spewing lies.

        • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

          Molly….this is a wonderful example of why the schools shouldn’t just teach evolution…and bad science.  It shows the kill the messenger and to heck with the truth.  If you had read the article you would see she is quoting scientists and PhD’s.  Have you not even taken the time to study both sides of the evolution debate before forcing your viewpoint on people?  And that exemplifies the whole problem with science….it is about controlling the truth…and minds.  Your post was perfect for showing how erroneous science is when people with an agenda want to block out the whole truth and react like you did.   When Ann is quoting from a book by a scientists go after the scientist.  I am not a fan of Ann Coulter…but I am a huge fan of the  truth and your post showed you simply aren’t.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brianpcurry Brian Curry

            Alice, she’s quoting Michael Behe, for Pete’s sake. You really must trust me when I tell you that the points she makes in her article have already been very thoroughly debunked by scientists who actually know a thing or two about evolutionary biology. Irreducible complexity is a farce that is more a punchline than anything else.

            There is no “both sides” here, and there is no “forcing your viewpoint”. You can choose to ignore the science, if you wish, but don’t let’s pretend that there’s a legitimate debate to be had about evolution. We may not know all of the particulars of how evolution has occurred and continues to occur, but the preponderance of the evidence indicates that it does, indeed, occur.

            I criticize Ann because she has selectively chosen her scientists to support a viewpoint that resonates well with the echo chamber that is her fan base. Others far more qualified than myself have already demolished the arguments put forth by the so-called “scientists” Ann quotes. Lest you worry, though, Alice, “Darwinism”, as Ann calls it, is still alive and well, and the majority of the evidence strongly supports it. You would do well to crack a science book or two.

          • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

            You criticize Ann on false grounds…you too have not been keeping up with both sides of the debate (reading one side is faulty science).  Please go out and buy the book by PhD Dr. Jonathan Sarafi about the errors with Dawkins.  Hey, for that matter just go to youtube and watch the shocked look on Dawkins face when he couldn’t answer a straightforward question with Rabbi Boteach about creationism.  The college audience was mesmerized…yes, Dawkins held his British upper lip and denied it….but the tape doesn’t lie.  The title is something about Debunking Dawkins….um…or Dawkins Really Stumped?  Or write to me and I will look it up.

            I guess I am bothered that you and Molly post with such enthusiasm without studying both sides.  Again and again it is shown here that true science is not admired….the whole truth is given to us in bits and pieces to promote agendas.  Some people are so anti creationism they would prefer to leave black holes of the mind than to admit that someone like Dawkins can’t answer simple questions (although, he is very smart….you can’t skim his stuff).  Do you even know what the question was that stumped him?  I am betting most people don’t….because their preferred taste is evolutionary….because to admit otherwise gets into morality….

            Also, look up why Dawkins won’t debate much anymore….look up Dinesh O’Sousa.  Going off the top of my head…O’Sousa likes to debate….I think his debate with Hitchens is on youtube.  Another atheist I met here and I go round and round….great guy…..sent me the debate.  I sent him the Sarafi book….but, admittedly, it is difficult reading because the material is so sophisticed…a bit like the God created universe:)   If you read all of Ann’s books she does do a good summation…..but people hate her to much to even consider that even in disagreement, and snarkiness she is smart.  Hey I recently read liberal Krugman’s rant on aliens…wow….little shouts about that? 

            Ultimately, the writers or so called scientists promoting half truths are not really atheists…. if you have read  Dawkins  book The God Delusion you would know he simple hates God….and the whole truth…and that is a whole other matter.  I am willing to discuss this privately.  We can hit Hitchens and Hawkings there…although….admittedly I really do like Hitchens….I just disagree with him…I still buy his books.  You gotta admire brilliance….but be willing to study that which you disagree with in an attempt to be completely educated and not ignorant about the other side of an issue.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558041620 Vikas Desai

    You make some great points,, there is an overwhelming amount of information out there and when people get a hold of it they don’t understand it all and can misinterpret it. This in turn causes a tremendous amount of anxiety which then proceeds to consume them and wear them down in addition to the natural stressors in life. It is unbelievable to me how many people come with vague complaints of fatigue thinking and almost wishing they had some sort of chronic disease. Obviously when an expensive work up is done by myself and nothing comes out of it the patient can be left dissatisfied as a result and will in turn go see an alternative medicine practitioner who may tell them exactly what they want to hear and come up with a definitive treatment for all their conditions. The fact that there are no real conditions that are being treated and the definitive treatment for said conditions aren’t really proven to work even if there was a condition to be treated becomes immaterial because the patient is satisfied that the alternative doc took the time out to talk to them. As primary care doctors we should be able to identify these patients pretty easily and make adjustments so that they feel satisfied that all their questions were answered, it’s called reassurance, and its a correct answer choice on many a board exam. The top rated(and top earning)PMD’s do this quite well. 

    • Anonymous

      “Obviously when an expensive work up is done by myself and nothing comes out of it the patient can be left dissatisfied as a result and will in turn go see an alternative medicine practitioner…”
      …who deals with the problem instead of ignoring it.

      “As primary care doctors we should be able to identify these patients pretty easily and make adjustments so that they feel satisfied that all their questions were answered, it’s called reassurance, and its a correct answer choice on many a board exam.”

      I find this condescending that those of us seeking alternative care just need reassurance.  I find that as a women, anytime vague symptoms are present, I am told I am depressed by allopathic doctors and prescribe medications whose efficacy is as ineffective as the treatments they criticize.

      I suffered for 18 months while my PCP reassured me that I was just depressed when in fact I had a serious infection.  Unfortunately, reassurance didn’t help me get rid of the infection.   Allopathic physicians stuff in a box, whether you belong there or not.  I’ve learned a lot from my naturpath.  She has helped me with lifestyle changes that make living with disease a little easier.  I am skeptical every time she recommends a supplement (ironically, I have had doctors recommend the same supplements) but don’t really need to believe for a good placebo effect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6C65YWGCC7P5C6CGMMBK7VMFXE JenniferL

    “Why patients flock to alternative medicine providers”

    …because they are often gullible and vulnerable.

    • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

      The same reasons they get stung by doctors? Patients are trying to do what is best for them…the days of doctors as Svengalis are over. Patients sorting and sifting and having options….informed consumers with a responsibility for their own actions and inactions is a good move. I see body builders at the health food store, vegans, vegetarians making informed decisions and my doctor friends shop there to. My friend with a PhD (a Coroner) shops there for supplements at much greater cost than going to the doctor….better results in some areas (fish oil, Vitamin B, CLA, Coenzyme Q10….medically proven by Case Western Med School) amongst a myriad of other research…even BigPharma is in on it…oh yes…if it is prescription MJ it’s alright….gotten get a script to make what you are taking legit.

      The Information Age is here to stay….better to deal with it, than dismiss it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/molly.ciliberti Molly Ciliberti

    The sad thing is that the people using these unproven techniques are being bilked and spending money for a placebo effect. I have known of several people who died because they saw a chiropractor and had brain tumors or went on weird diets and took “supplements” and died because their cancer wasn’t treated by medicine in time. Why people believe these charlatans amazes me. All you have to do is call your self and expert and people believe you. “There is a sucker born every minute” still holds true (P.T. Barnum.)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=715941398 Jason Luban

      Molly, just to be clear (and perhaps stimulate some interesting idea swapping):  Are you suggesting that most modern medical procedures have been proven to work? Or that the placebo effect is not medical? Or that your anecdotal chiropractic experience is generalizable to all alternative practitioners being charlatans?  And/or that modern medicine is “safer” than most alternatives?  

      • http://www.facebook.com/brianpcurry Brian Curry

        Well, no, the placebo effect isn’t medical. It’s largely psychological, and accordingly restricted to subjective outcomes, with very rare exception. As for “alternative practitioners” being charlatans? Yep, pretty much, which is a major reason why alternative medicine is often so safe: If there’s no effect, then there’s certainly no bad effect.

        • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

          Well………don’t half of patients with minor problems heal on their own?  Maybe doctors are in the same category as charletans with more education?  I am being facetious to try to make a point…but I think you need to differentiate between homeopathy as an alternative and other forms.  It’s too broad a brush to label a whole group when “science” proves there are techniques and natural alternatives that do work.  I used to take migraines that made me pass out amidst other niceties…I’ll spare you:) and nothing the doctors did worked.  I live near Case Western Medical School (it borders on Cleveland Clinic, but partners with University) and they did research on large doses of Coenzyme Q10….I immediately started to take it….in four years I hardly get sick now and have had so few horrific migraines it’s phenomenal.  Look at acupuncture….and other methods.  You can’t discount it all down to a level of some traveling medicine man show?

          Look at desperate cancer patients….my daughter drank radiation….something happened and we are now worried about bone marrow damage…her immune system is all messed up…and the doctors say it did nothing but harm.  Chemo isn’t as successful as we think.  Really….think about it….I am grateful for doctors and our choices….but modern medicine fails a lot of people….why not embrace alternative medicine as Cleveland Clinic and Case Western have….there is room for different methods (aren’t women embracing natural hormones now and seeking out doctors who will help them with better results)….and each patient is so unique…..medicinal blinders do not serve either side very well.

    • http://www.twitter.com/alicearobertson Alice Robertson

       Molly….you and I both know people with brain tumors die daily from going to doctors.  My seven year old son was sent home to die from an inoperable astrocytoma brain tumor that had grown like an octopus around his main nerves.  Yeah….I was pretty desperate…I did something quite unconventional in your eyes….prayed for a miracle.  If you want to see some real truth, instead of scare tactics go to youtube.com and put this in;  “Alex Robertson + healing”   You will see a neurologist from the Cleveland Clinic showing you the MRI with the tumor on it.   I wouldn’t be so quick to wag your finger at desperate families given a death sentence.  Last I heard modern medicine was still limited in the miracle department…..doctors aren’t God…..and they are usually the first ones to admit that.

    • Anonymous


      I agree that there are alot of charlatans in alternative medicine.   Against my better judgment, I saw one out of desperation.   But I refused an offer of a neurochemical transmitter imbalance test that I knew was a piece of garbage.

      At the same time, you seem to think conventional medicine never does anything wrong or that is unproven and nothing could be further from the truth.   Thanks to conventional medicine’s philosophy of prescribing psych meds come heck or high water, 15 years of my life was destroyed.   By the way, psychiatry has spend many years claiming the chemical imbalance falsehood to justify prescribing psych meds.

      Additionally, when I had a toe that was either broken or sprained, the conventional doctor was more concerned about a toe that had fungus on it.  He wanted to give me a medicine that would have required liver function tests.   Instead, I ended up taking one of those “charlatan” remedies that permanently cured the problem.

      Anyway, the issue is not whether conventional or alternative medicine is better.   The issue is what will help solve the patient’s problem. 

      Unfortunately, professionals on both sides of the aisle are so wrapped up in their dogma that they have forgotten that basic philosophy.

  • Anonymous

    So many doctors write scripts and don’t know what the side effects and withdrawal of the drugs they are prescribing. I have been damaged by this lack of care. So many doctors drink the kool aid the drug reps SELL them and do not take the time to research. Don’t tell me doctors don’t have time. I used to work for a very busy one, who always researched and NEVER spoke to a drug rep. Drug reps are salesmen-plain and simple. So I have gotten off the poison that has damaged me and take supplements and feel so much better and I’m healthier. The FDA is not doing their job either and if you think so you are delusional. 

  • SueKH

    STOP the commercials and magazine advertisements for drugs. It makes people ask for drugs they don’t need and think will solve their problems and doctors write scripts for them because they are afraid to say no. Say no to Big Pharma! Supplements and vitamins have been around for thousands of years and are proven. Big Pharma tests a drug for a couple of weeks and puts it on the market. Whether you are going to the hospital for an outpatient procedure or whether you will be admitted to the hospital for medical illness or surgical procedure, there are certain things you must know and certain things you must do in order to ensure that your reasonable expectations will be met.

  • Anonymous

    A few years ago a close friend of mine was suffering a cronic migraine and heart condition. She was being treated mostly with different pain medications for the migraines none of which got rid of it fully. We did research and tied to find some sort of answers, found a little on the web and on shows like fox news  and “The Journal” with Joan Lunden

    talking about triggers but not causes. She eventually tried a holistic Dr. that practiced CRA and withing 4 months the Migraines were gone. There are cures sometimes and after that I understand the desire to look outside of medical sometimes.

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