Health IT and doctors need to bridge the cultural gap

The recent financial incentives offered by the government (HITECH) for EMR implementation are somewhat helpful but are also misleading.

Most fail to recognize that the biggest obstacles to EMR implementation are not financial, but are cultural.  EMR adoption will require cooperation between two disparate cultures:  the Health IT (HIT) culture and the medical culture.  One needs only to read a few of the EMR debates in any health care blog to discover that these two cultures view the health care system differently.  Until the differences are reconciled, EMR implementation will continue to struggle despite the HITECH incentives.

Buoyed by its success digitizing other parts of the economy, the HIT industry sees in health care an untamed wilderness of inefficient workflows and slow, outdated data exchange.  HIT folks envision a world where standardized workflows and rapid data movement ensure, for example, that a patient never has to wait 30 minutes in an exam room for test results and where day-to-day management of chronic diseases can be done remotely.  An IT revolution in medicine would bring lower costs, better efficiency and improved care.

But there is a dark side to the HIT perspective. After successfully bringing so many other parts of our economy into the information age, some believe they have learned all they need to know to do the same for health care.  The benefits are so clear and so obvious that anyone who would oppose EMR must be either clueless or just “protecting their turf.” I have heard HIT consultants brag about walking out on their physician the minute they saw a paper prescription pad.  They mistakenly believe that health care is no different than banking or grocery stores – that there is nothing else to health care besides documentation, workflow and data exchange.

The medical culture sees it differently.  To us health care is all about the doctor-patient relationship.  In the physician’s world workflows and data exist only to support and execute the decisions patients and doctors make together regarding care.  The art and science of medicine defy, to some degree, traditional software structure and data capture techniques. Our decisions may depend as much upon the look on a patient’s face as on any objective data.  That is how it should be.  The type of personality who is attracted to this kind of work is interpersonal, not technical. We got into medicine to interact with people, not machines.

The doctor-patient relationship gets attacked from all sides. Since the doctor-patient relationship drives one-sixth of our economy that comes as no surprise. The government just passed a huge piece of legislation that will have profound effects on the doctor-patient relationship.  Pharmaceutical companies tell us we need to use their latest drug.  Device manufacturers push the next great Magic Wand for performing a tonsillectomy, sinus surgery or other operation.  Consultants tell us to run our practice like a business.   When we make sound business decisions, we are accused of abandoning our moral obligation to medicine.  To us the folks trying to sell us EMR are no different.  They are just another group that thinks they know how to do our job better than we do.

But the medical point of view has its dark side as well.  We act as if the doctor-patient relationship is so sacred as to be perfect and infallible, privileged from the need to evolve and improve, immune to the economic and performance pressures lurking just outside the exam room door.  If the treatment we prescribe is not the most cost effective choice, let the system deal with it.  If our paper prescription is illegible or non-formulary, that’s the pharmacist’s problem.  If EMR is too inconvenient because of the learning curve, then it doesn’t matter how much more efficiently the system would run with EMR in place.

Bringing information technology to health care will be slow and painful until these 2 points of view are reconciled.  The first step is to realize that both doctors and Health IT are right – and they are both wrong.  Both sides need an attitude adjustment.

Health IT must acknowledge that the doctor-patient relationship is a major part of the health care machine.  Workflows and data are the means, not the end.  Nothing like the doctor-patient relationship exists anywhere else, so the experience gained bringing IT to other parts of the economy is not enough to write good software for physicians.  Little wonder that doctors find EMR software “clunky”, inefficient and difficult to use.   As one physician responding to a survey stated, “in order to contain the subtleties of the medical thought process, these systems have to be complex, flexible, and very nimble.”  Health IT needs to invest time and effort developing a greater understanding of how doctors and patients interact and make decisions.  Only then will the software get better.

The medical culture must understand that while the doctor-patient relationship is unique and special, it is not entitled to be rigid and inflexible.  Over the past several decades the way we do our job has evolved; the evolution must continue.  The doctor-patient relationship is not perfect.  The shortcomings we impose on the rest of the system play a part in the inefficiency and the waste.
Remember when managed care came along 20 years ago?  We dug our heels in and fought against it.  We declared our methods and our high price tag to be above criticism.  So the rest of the health care system created managed care without us.   We are still living with the consequences.

With the impending IT revolution in health care we face a similar choice. If we refuse to accept change, the result will be the same as it was 20 years ago.  If we want a better result this time we must take a leading role.  We must voluntarily leave our comfort zone and bring EMR to the practice of medicine.

Can both cultures admit their shortcomings and meet in the middle?

Mike Koriwchak is an otolaryngologist who blogs at the Wired EMR Practice.

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  • http://www.acoready.com EMRDave

    Very interesting article and it is a big challenge to bridge the gap between health IT and doctor, in addition the gap among various age group of doctors

  • r watkins

    “in addition the gap among various age group of doctors”

    Perfect example of the type of thinking that has caused the problems Dr. Koriwchak has clearly identified.

  • Adam Rothschild, M.D., M.A.

    “Health IT needs to invest time and effort developing a greater understanding of how doctors and patients interact and make decisions.” Um, it basically has: This is one of the major areas that medical informatics researchers study. Why the larger health IT industry has largely ignored its findings, I can only surmise.

  • Dr.Z

    Excellent piece Dr. K.

    The other excellent piece I read tonight is “NIST Guide to the Processes Approach for Improving the Usability of Electronic Health Records” by Robert M. Schumacher
    User Centric. Inc. Gave him full credit here because its an excellent paper.

    Schumacher addresses the difference between usability and utility. I propose the distance between the HIT industry and health care providers can be measured best by measuring the distance between usability and utility of EHRs.

    http://www.nist.gov/itl/hit/upload/Guide_Final_Publication_Version.pdf

  • Marc Gorayeb, MD

    Outside of a large corporate or multi-specialty practice, show me that an EHR system can actually make an independent practitioner substantially more efficient. If achieving this comes at the cost of a phyiscian losing his or her solo practice – and all of the consequences to the practice of medicine this implies – then the cost is too high.
    Of course the cost is not too high if you can prove that it actually improves patient care outcomes. But so far, that proof is lacking.

    • http://onhealthtech.blogspot.com/ Margalit Gur-Arie

      What if it’s the other way around? What if getting an EHR is the price a solo doc has to pay in order to maintain his/her independence in this “new & improved” system?

      I don’t think anybody can prove or disprove the effects on outcomes at this point, but if we accept the premise that communications and information exchange are beneficial (or mandated, depending on your point of view), an interoperable EHR is a necessity, and the only alternative to buying is joining a large group or selling to the hospital, both of which will bring the EHR in anyway.
      So wouldn’t it make more sense to get the smallest and least intrusive one now, and prevent those unfortunate implications to the practice of medicine?

      • rwatkins

        “if we accept the premise that communications and information exchange are beneficial”

        And this is an argument I still don’t get. What exactly are the “communications and information exchanges” that 1. improve patient health, 2. occur at least more frequently than once-in-a blue-moon; and 3. require an EMR to be effected?

        It still seems like we wind up at “You have to buy an EMR because you have to.”

        Thanks.

        • http://onhealthtech.blogspot.com/ Margalit Gur-Arie

          Dr. Watkins, I am going to be downright cynical here and spare us both the customary answers to your question, but if health care is being “transformed” and being a PCMH or joining an ACO or other “value based” payment program becomes a necessity, then there will be a need to exchange electronic data with the rest of the provider network and with payers and with patients.
          This may or may not improve patient care, but it will certainly have to occur more frequently than once in a blue moon and I don’t think all these large organizations will be inclined to run analytics on paper.
          You could plan on remaining unaffiliated with any of these novelties, but I am not certain how long that can last or how feasible it would be. You could certainly wait and see…..

          • dkberry

            Margalit … (always great reading your well presented thoughts)

            Jeff Rowe posted today at HITECHWATCH word that “[y]esterday, the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST) delivered a report which recommends, among other things, the development of a “universal exchange language” for health data.”

            This sorta thing makes my head explode. ARRA incentivized launch of an expensive EHR campaign whose national value (in some including your perspective) will bring necessary interoperability and communication… yet the council says standards are lacking to make that mission capacity possible.

            The visual I get is of products or people riding on trains only able to go to cities served by one railroad company because size and capacity of rail cars are non standard, tracks are non standard, and throughput capacity is nonstandard. If we were the UK with five EMR vendors … interoperability is not as difficult to establish. Not so much here. Seems to me that this is being addressed a bit too late for PCMH and ACOs to deliver any value.

            Finally, to your post above: “This may or may not improve patient care”. Well … if they don’t improve patient care what value are they?

            I’m beginning to believe the real reason we are hard on the HEIT initives is to hopefully reduce the total government expenditure on health care so health care services can be extended to some folks who previously were not entitled to public welfare. Even the President when he initially launched the health care reform effort first priority was to ‘reduce expenditures’. Since HEIT was the first component of reform that equates HEIT with saving money … not improving outcomes. Also … any initiative with the top priority of saving money will never be more effective.

            Launching HEIT without interoperabilty standards simply validates the premature launch of health care information technology … could lead to its unfortunate demise.

          • rwatkins

            Ms. Gur-Arie:

            Thanks for the honest reply. I tend to agree with your predictions. I’m also becoming more convinced that the PCMH/ACO/EMR “transformation” that is underway will not: 1. improve patient care; 2. reduce the total cost of care; nor 3. stop the death spiral which primary care is in.

            Fortunately, I’m in a position where I can run my practice based on what’s best for my patients and for me, but I’m concerned about what lies ahead for the medical profession.

  • http://www.majormedicalhealth.com Ed

    Health care is a different animal and has to be treated as such. I am a 30-year veteran of the health care business and systems that work outside health care don’t always provide efficiency in the health care business.

  • Max

    I’ll say it again. Don’t try to lie and sell me the ‘value’ of an EMR. Force us to do it with legal ramificationons/jail/condition of licensure and/or 50% payment reductions. Tell us “we want it to track your prescriptions and cost-utilization and electronically audit your charts while you’re sleeping.” Just be honest about the real ‘value’, would you already? Sheesh. Then we’ll just quit and say ‘how do you like them apples?’ Checkmate.

    • Dr.Z

      @Max… that plays into their hands.

      Overall goal is to eliminate physicians and APNs from primary care. In future patients will show for an appointment and receptionist/greeter will take them to a closet size exam room. Then a robot-like thing will take all the vitals and the program will ask all the standardized exam questions driven off a Cray computer in Maryland @ CMS headquarters. Everything will be totally automated. You get to ask questions and responses will be sent to you by email including reams of backup effectiveness research material.

      You will not have to pay for this service. It will simply be charged for it via your new mandatory quarterly IRS billing feature.

      If you fail to pay on time … you will just be zapped with a million volts of electricity. Also … if you fail to respond to the modern treatment … you will also be zapped out of existance to erradicate evidence of the government’s failure.

      Just thinkin …

  • David Hager, M.D.

    I echo these sentiments strongly here:
    http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2010/10/18/edlt1018.htm

    I’m hopeful, though, that this may pave the way to improved products:
    http://m.healthcareitnews.com/news/white-house-calls-health-data-exchange-standards

    Cutting idiosyncratic proprietary locks on medical data will make it easier for docs to change products at will. This can fire up free market forces to actually listen to what docs want … and give it to them, with higher quality and lower cost.