<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: AMA: Senate fails to stop a Medicare meltdown</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Vox Rusticus</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-136043</link> <dc:creator>Vox Rusticus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:07:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-136043</guid> <description>If this problem isn&#039;t fixed, and the 21.5% cut goes through, Medicare will experience a failure event that will present differently in different places among different specialties. Busy internists who have long waiting lists will stop new Medicare accessions and some will completely withdraw from the program. Smaller numbers will go boutique and drop all third-party payment, with or without membership fees. Those doctors will be able to greatly streamline their practices and reduce their operating overhead costs. With the withdrawal from Medicare goes any outside impetus to comply with federal laws mandating EMRs. In fact, most mandates lose their force once one no longer takes federal money.Some practices won&#039;t have any viable option and will close. Not every practice can stay open with a cut that halves or worse the income of the doctors. When you stop paying a living wage, or even a competitive wage, people quit. Even owners quit. Contrary to what some people think, doctors will not continue to serve Medicare beneficiaries regardless of the payment the program provides.The Tricare military beneficiary and retiree program will also go to the weeds, and fast.If you end up losing money either way, seeing patients or not, you can&#039;t count on &quot;professionalism&quot; or other notion of duty to expect doctors to continue working. Practices are like other businesses and when they don&#039;t run in the black, they&#039;re done. If they can&#039;t make their practice run without Medicare, on whatever terms of payment they can devise, they fold.And to Solo Family Doctor MD: suicide or murder, at the end of the day, what is the difference? Not viable, as in a business that can&#039;t pay its key employee, the doctor, is just another failed business. We aren&#039;t special, at least not special enough to be able to avoid the general rules of any private business, and most of us aren&#039;t living on trust funds that we can afford to work without earning an income.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this problem isn&#8217;t fixed, and the 21.5% cut goes through, Medicare will experience a failure event that will present differently in different places among different specialties. Busy internists who have long waiting lists will stop new Medicare accessions and some will completely withdraw from the program. Smaller numbers will go boutique and drop all third-party payment, with or without membership fees. Those doctors will be able to greatly streamline their practices and reduce their operating overhead costs. With the withdrawal from Medicare goes any outside impetus to comply with federal laws mandating EMRs. In fact, most mandates lose their force once one no longer takes federal money.</p><p>Some practices won&#8217;t have any viable option and will close. Not every practice can stay open with a cut that halves or worse the income of the doctors. When you stop paying a living wage, or even a competitive wage, people quit. Even owners quit. Contrary to what some people think, doctors will not continue to serve Medicare beneficiaries regardless of the payment the program provides.</p><p>The Tricare military beneficiary and retiree program will also go to the weeds, and fast.</p><p>If you end up losing money either way, seeing patients or not, you can&#8217;t count on &#8220;professionalism&#8221; or other notion of duty to expect doctors to continue working. Practices are like other businesses and when they don&#8217;t run in the black, they&#8217;re done. If they can&#8217;t make their practice run without Medicare, on whatever terms of payment they can devise, they fold.</p><p>And to Solo Family Doctor MD: suicide or murder, at the end of the day, what is the difference? Not viable, as in a business that can&#8217;t pay its key employee, the doctor, is just another failed business. We aren&#8217;t special, at least not special enough to be able to avoid the general rules of any private business, and most of us aren&#8217;t living on trust funds that we can afford to work without earning an income.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SmartDoc</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135971</link> <dc:creator>SmartDoc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135971</guid> <description>&quot;Drop out of Medicare en mass.&quot;Will never happen.What I believe is hapening is the slow death of Medicare by a million pinpricks.  By this I mean, slowly reduced access as physicians limit their Medicare practices to fewer and fewerf easy cases.If you are really, really sick in the near future, good luck trying to find anyone decent to follow you as a patient.  Obama&#039;s $500 billion cut in Medicare will devastate acute care.As an extra unintended negative consequence, the top specialists are already shutting their doors to new Medicare cases.  You soon will no longer see any of the best doctors.In any case the Baby Boomers are in for a colossal shock as they are forced against their wills into Medicare.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Drop out of Medicare en mass.&#8221;</p><p>Will never happen.</p><p>What I believe is hapening is the slow death of Medicare by a million pinpricks.  By this I mean, slowly reduced access as physicians limit their Medicare practices to fewer and fewerf easy cases.</p><p>If you are really, really sick in the near future, good luck trying to find anyone decent to follow you as a patient.  Obama&#8217;s $500 billion cut in Medicare will devastate acute care.</p><p>As an extra unintended negative consequence, the top specialists are already shutting their doors to new Medicare cases.  You soon will no longer see any of the best doctors.</p><p>In any case the Baby Boomers are in for a colossal shock as they are forced against their wills into Medicare.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Happy Hospitalist</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135970</link> <dc:creator>The Happy Hospitalist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:33:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135970</guid> <description>Nobody cares about the cut except physicians. Especially not patientsThe only way patients will care is if you cut them offDrop out of Medicare en mass.That is the only effective means  to this political end</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody cares about the cut except physicians. Especially not patients</p><p>The only way patients will care is if you cut them off</p><p>Drop out of Medicare en mass.</p><p>That is the only effective means  to this political end</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc D</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135949</link> <dc:creator>Doc D</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135949</guid> <description>I agree with those commentors that say the AMA brought this on.  By making a deal with the Administration, they thought to gain a solution to SGR.But all the revenue and savings went to support the massive health care overhaul, and the fix had to be shuffled aside.Also, as was recently reported, the AMA makes most of its money from their copyright of  the CPT coding system.  According the National Review blog, AMA reports revenue of $268M, $210M from publishing...mainly the CPT code.  That they want to sustain a CPT-based cost-plus system is not surprising.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with those commentors that say the AMA brought this on.  By making a deal with the Administration, they thought to gain a solution to SGR.</p><p>But all the revenue and savings went to support the massive health care overhaul, and the fix had to be shuffled aside.</p><p>Also, as was recently reported, the AMA makes most of its money from their copyright of  the CPT coding system.  According the National Review blog, AMA reports revenue of $268M, $210M from publishing&#8230;mainly the CPT code.  That they want to sustain a CPT-based cost-plus system is not surprising.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ashish</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135940</link> <dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:46:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135940</guid> <description>Yes patients don&#039;t care about doctors salaries Yes it&#039;s fiscally impractical  for most specialists to opt outBUT Dr. Shah hit the nail on the head.  American doctors will loose ALL control when they tie our licensing power (like Mass is trying) or our prescribing power (see obamacare that only allows Medicare accepting physicians to write for wheelchairs). Rohack needs to stop acting after the fact.  No other lobbying group would have given up so much. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes patients don&#8217;t care about doctors salaries<br /> Yes it&#8217;s fiscally impractical  for most specialists to opt out</p><p>BUT Dr. Shah hit the nail on the head.  American doctors will loose ALL control when they tie our licensing power (like Mass is trying) or our prescribing power (see obamacare that only allows Medicare accepting physicians to write for wheelchairs). Rohack needs<br /> to stop acting after the fact.  No other lobbying group would have given up so much.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dr. Mary Johnson</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135932</link> <dc:creator>Dr. Mary Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:48:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135932</guid> <description>I guess snuggling up to the Obamaminions at the Congressional kiddie table didn&#039;t work so well for the rank &amp; file, eh?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess snuggling up to the Obamaminions at the Congressional kiddie table didn&#8217;t work so well for the rank &amp; file, eh?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul Dorio</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135927</link> <dc:creator>Paul Dorio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135927</guid> <description>You&#039;re right, Shah, and that&#039;s the scary slippery slope of declining reimbursement, now starting to be tagged to things such as &quot;accepting Medicare&quot; and &quot;maintenance of certification.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Shah, and that&#8217;s the scary slippery slope of declining reimbursement, now starting to be tagged to things such as &#8220;accepting Medicare&#8221; and &#8220;maintenance of certification.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul Dorio</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135926</link> <dc:creator>Paul Dorio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:32:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135926</guid> <description>People need to see past &quot;doctors pay&quot; in these discussions. Whenever I read comments/articles about the SGR, health care reform, declining reimbursements, etc., many people tend to respond with indignation that doctors could ever deign to decline to treat our grandparents. The sad part is that people usually are intently aware of their own financial situation but couldn&#039;t care less about the plight of others, unless it adversely affects them.Sorry to sound so cynical. Usually I try to keep my optimistic self in check. I think that the solution to all of this would have been a health care reform package that somehow did not cater to the insurance companies and that included liability reform.When we have real improvements in the form of insurance portability, which may create competitive premium pricing, then perhaps we will see a change in the way insurance companies do business.Barring that, ALL physicians would need to magically come together and voice their objection to the government&#039;s meddling in the pricing of health care.I would like to see some sort of fix before I reach Medicare age, myself!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People need to see past &#8220;doctors pay&#8221; in these discussions. Whenever I read comments/articles about the SGR, health care reform, declining reimbursements, etc., many people tend to respond with indignation that doctors could ever deign to decline to treat our grandparents. The sad part is that people usually are intently aware of their own financial situation but couldn&#8217;t care less about the plight of others, unless it adversely affects them.</p><p>Sorry to sound so cynical. Usually I try to keep my optimistic self in check. I think that the solution to all of this would have been a health care reform package that somehow did not cater to the insurance companies and that included liability reform.</p><p>When we have real improvements in the form of insurance portability, which may create competitive premium pricing, then perhaps we will see a change in the way insurance companies do business.</p><p>Barring that, ALL physicians would need to magically come together and voice their objection to the government&#8217;s meddling in the pricing of health care.</p><p>I would like to see some sort of fix before I reach Medicare age, myself!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc99</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135934</link> <dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:30:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135934</guid> <description>Dr. Rohack, how&#039;s that AMA strategy working for you? And why is AMA bleeding members?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Rohack, how&#8217;s that AMA strategy working for you? And why is AMA bleeding members?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Solo Family Doctor MD</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/06/ama-senate-fails-stop-medicare-meltdown.html#comment-135936</link> <dc:creator>Solo Family Doctor MD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:30:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=44729#comment-135936</guid> <description>This rhetoric that all physicians will &quot;opt out&quot; simply is not true.  It would be like suicide to opt out of Medicare.  Until balance billing is in place, this would be a bad move.  To send a message without breaking the bank, the better thing is to go non-participating and you can still see those patients who can&#039;t afford to pay the extra fees and accept assignment.  We have to be above the fold and if patients see us as greedy then it will backfire.  From comments on other blogs, and from impressions of politicians&#039; comments, many patients and politicians (erroneously) think that we make 1 Million + per year.  As a family physician I can assure them that it is not nearly that much, it is just as much as any other small business professional including plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, etc. and not nearly as much as lawyers, politicians, etc..  In that way we are a &quot;trade&quot; and we have to protect our profession.  The AMA sold us out and that is why I quit the AMA.  Now it is possible that congress will never really pass a permanent fix because the deal is done and there&#039;s really no political will left to do as much.  The AMA does represent the majority of physicians and my primary care specialty society (AAFP) has failed me also.  I think we should let the politicians do their thing, and I appreciate the AMA&#039;s campaign to finally pressure lawmakers.  But it is as always, too little, and too late.  It would have been better to do this a year ago.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rhetoric that all physicians will &#8220;opt out&#8221; simply is not true.  It would be like suicide to opt out of Medicare.  Until balance billing is in place, this would be a bad move.  To send a message without breaking the bank, the better thing is to go non-participating and you can still see those patients who can&#8217;t afford to pay the extra fees and accept assignment.  We have to be above the fold and if patients see us as greedy then it will backfire.  From comments on other blogs, and from impressions of politicians&#8217; comments, many patients and politicians (erroneously) think that we make 1 Million + per year.  As a family physician I can assure them that it is not nearly that much, it is just as much as any other small business professional including plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, etc. and not nearly as much as lawyers, politicians, etc..  In that way we are a &#8220;trade&#8221; and we have to protect our profession.  The AMA sold us out and that is why I quit the AMA.  Now it is possible that congress will never really pass a permanent fix because the deal is done and there&#8217;s really no political will left to do as much.  The AMA does represent the majority of physicians and my primary care specialty society (AAFP) has failed me also.  I think we should let the politicians do their thing, and I appreciate the AMA&#8217;s campaign to finally pressure lawmakers.  But it is as always, too little, and too late.  It would have been better to do this a year ago.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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