A DNR order may not always be best for the patient

Doctors are often encouraged to discuss advance directives with their patients.

But sometimes, when it comes to act on a “Do not resuscitate” (DNR) order, the situation can be far from clear.

In a provocative essay from the Washington Post, emergency physician Boris Veysman discusses a case where he successfully revived a man who, unbeknown to Dr. Veysman, had a DNR order.

Despite the temporary nature of the illness, the family honored the DNR order and instructed the medical team to place the patient on comfort measures.

Can comfort care sometimes mean aggressive medicine however? That type of nuance can only be considered on a case by case basis, which is why Dr. Veysman argues against a DNR:

I refuse to have a DNR or DNI order for myself. Go ahead, doctor and family, give me some comfort meds, then shock me, tube me and line me.

Life is precious and irreplaceable. Even severe incurable illness can often be temporarily fixed, moderated or controlled, and most discomfort can be made tolerable or even pleasant with simple drugs. In chess, to resign is to give up the game with pieces and options remaining. My version of DNR is “Do Not Resign.” Don’t give up on me if I can still think, communicate, create and enjoy life. When taking care of me, take care of yourself as well, to make sure you don’t burn out by the time I need your optimism the most.

Indeed, a DNR order be too heavy-handed for some situations, and can be improved. Dr. Veysman says there are cases where aggressive measures can be temporarily instituted, so that the patient can die in a more comfortable hospice setting, versus the harsher hospital environment.

Idealistic? Perhaps. But given the numerous cases where patients without advance directives die in intensive care settings, it’s still preferable for patients to give some guidance to family members prior to their unforeseen periods of incapacitation.

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  • http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com Happy Hospitalist

    it seems like that family is the only one looking out for their loved one.

  • http://www.MDWhistleblower.blogspot.com Michael Kirsch, M.D.

    Had a patient recently who was DNR who I was about to do EGD on. Spoke to daughter prior to procedure about if DNR status should be modifed during the procedure, and then resumed afterwards. This was a delicate discussion. The patient during the procedure could develop respiratory depression from sedation, that could be reversed with a ventilator rescue.

  • Erik

    Anyone who writes a story like this should have to round for a month in a long term acute care facility (“vent hospital”) and see patients who have “survived” their disease and “in the process of recovery.”

    Only 3% of patients who arrest in a hospital survive, and most of them have the mental capacity of a one year old after that.

    I think patients are more qualifed than a doctor who just met them to decide if they want to try to be the one patient who becomes a story or one of the other 97%.

    Optimism is often inappropriate in critical care situation; patients and their families deserve honesty, not false hope.

  • http://tarl.net/tarl Tarl Neustaedter

    The article about needing to modify a DNR would be more credible if Dr. Veysman didn’t make it so clear he regards DNRs as wrong to begin with.

    If/When I set a DNR, it will be because I’m waiting to die, and am just existing through the unpleasant time until it happens. At that point, a temporary condition that kills me is a relief, not a minor obstruction to be overcome.

    My grandfather (at age 104) finally decided he’d had enough, and set out to die. He refused all medications, and even so it took four months of increasing unpleasantness before enough organs failed to allow him his exit.

  • RY

    I read the essay. “Temporary issue” = acute renal failure requiring dialysis as a result of either metastatic cancer or the chemotherapy used to treat his cancer. Other fine recommendations from this ED physician (not a hospitalist, not an ICU specialist) included antidepressants should the patient survive his unwanted “resuscitation”. In actuality, the patient was medicated into a “peaceful” intubated, drug-maintained state where he may have nonetheless still had some awareness of the situation. That is my personal idea of a nightmare, or maybe hell.

    Good for the family for standing by their loved one. And what a disgusting, arrogant person this physician is. How dare he think he knows best.

    For at least the last six months of his life, I wish this physician sedation, intubation, ICU psychosis, urinary catheterization, dialysis, hand and foot restraints, contracted limbs, a central line, biweekly codes with chest compressions and any and all other invasive procedures necessary and available to him. Blink your enjoyment to your loved ones. Life is precious.

  • Molly Ciliberti, RN

    After some 20 years in ICU and CCU nursing, I am an advocate for DNR. I know that it is really up to the individual to decide for themselves. Just because we “saved” someone doesn’t mean it was a success if their life is just existing. Life is about living not existing. I think the doc here is wrong to assume that his call was the right one. Too many people die in the hospital miserably and in pain and at a horrific cost to society. Hospice and dying in peace is a better solution. When I get older not only will I have a DNR, but I will have it Tattooed on my chest for docs like this one.

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