<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Medical students post inappropriate content online</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:14:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: William Hsu</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119426</link> <dc:creator>William Hsu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:31:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119426</guid> <description>I have many pointed criticism people who criticize facebook in general.I don&#039;t really think people over the age of 27 understand why people use facebook. At this point, for people under the age of 25 it&#039;s almost a social necessity- like having a cell phone or an email account. I&#039;ll explain it like this- if all my friends have facebook, and they communicate through facebook. If i don&#039;t have facebook, i essentially get left out of the loop.Why is age 27 the magical number? because facebook popularity started around 2004-2005. If you graduated college before then(2003) you could have set your entire social network without facebook. Currently for a college student, it&#039;s almost social suicide not to use facebook.It&#039;s my belief that people under the age of 27 will be hurt socially(and possibly economically) in the future if they don&#039;t use facebook. Trending forward, the percentage of facebook users in the medical profession will go up. People who don&#039;t use facebook in the future will only isolate themselves from the emergent facebook using medical community.As for &quot;inappropriate content&quot;. Here&#039;s the JAMA article results.Violations of patient confidentiality were reported by 13% (6/46). Student use of profanity (52%; 22/42), frankly discriminatory language (48%; 19/40), depiction of intoxication (39%; 17/44), and sexually suggestive material (38%; 16/42) were commonly reported.I would argue only violations of patient confidentiality constitutes &quot;inappropriate content.&quot;People who criticize facebook posters for &quot;sexually suggestive material, profanity and depictions of intoxication&quot; simply don&#039;t understand that&#039;s the norm in facebook. I don&#039;t have that stuff on my facebook because i&#039;m a bit of a nerd. But when i see my friends post stuff like that.... it&#039;s almost like white noise to me- I don&#039;t even blink. 20 years from now.... when the facebook using med students of today become the doctors of tomorrow I truely believe this problem will become a non issue. Like how many hippies of the 60s became the leaders of today.As for &quot;descriminatory content&quot;... i&#039;m sorta on the fence about that. I don&#039;t know what administrators define as frankly descriminatory language. Personally, i wouldn&#039;t constitute anything posted from my friends as frankly descriminatory. So i&#039;m sort of confused by that issue.I do think that there needs to be some education on social networking sites, especially concerning patient confidentiality. But the issue isn&#039;t as problematic as the posted video makes it out to be</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many pointed criticism people who criticize facebook in general.</p><p>I don&#8217;t really think people over the age of 27 understand why people use facebook. At this point, for people under the age of 25 it&#8217;s almost a social necessity- like having a cell phone or an email account. I&#8217;ll explain it like this- if all my friends have facebook, and they communicate through facebook. If i don&#8217;t have facebook, i essentially get left out of the loop.</p><p>Why is age 27 the magical number? because facebook popularity started around 2004-2005. If you graduated college before then(2003) you could have set your entire social network without facebook. Currently for a college student, it&#8217;s almost social suicide not to use facebook.</p><p>It&#8217;s my belief that people under the age of 27 will be hurt socially(and possibly economically) in the future if they don&#8217;t use facebook. Trending forward, the percentage of facebook users in the medical profession will go up. People who don&#8217;t use facebook in the future will only isolate themselves from the emergent facebook using medical community.</p><p>As for &#8220;inappropriate content&#8221;. Here&#8217;s the JAMA article results.</p><p>Violations of patient confidentiality were reported by 13% (6/46). Student use of profanity (52%; 22/42), frankly discriminatory language (48%; 19/40), depiction of intoxication (39%; 17/44), and sexually suggestive material (38%; 16/42) were commonly reported.</p><p>I would argue only violations of patient confidentiality constitutes &#8220;inappropriate content.&#8221;</p><p>People who criticize facebook posters for &#8220;sexually suggestive material, profanity and depictions of intoxication&#8221; simply don&#8217;t understand that&#8217;s the norm in facebook. I don&#8217;t have that stuff on my facebook because i&#8217;m a bit of a nerd. But when i see my friends post stuff like that&#8230;. it&#8217;s almost like white noise to me- I don&#8217;t even blink. 20 years from now&#8230;. when the facebook using med students of today become the doctors of tomorrow I truely believe this problem will become a non issue. Like how many hippies of the 60s became the leaders of today.</p><p>As for &#8220;descriminatory content&#8221;&#8230; i&#8217;m sorta on the fence about that. I don&#8217;t know what administrators define as frankly descriminatory language. Personally, i wouldn&#8217;t constitute anything posted from my friends as frankly descriminatory. So i&#8217;m sort of confused by that issue.</p><p>I do think that there needs to be some education on social networking sites, especially concerning patient confidentiality. But the issue isn&#8217;t as problematic as the posted video makes it out to be</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jsmith</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119412</link> <dc:creator>jsmith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:48:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119412</guid> <description>PeterJ, I don&#039;t think so.  When you become a doctor, you become a member of a privileged, elite group of people who are held in high regard by the public. You might not believe this, but it&#039;s true.  I have never been unemployed and I never will be. I don&#039;t kowtow to corporate types.  People treat me (us) with a deference that most people can only dream about, and I am paid a hell of lot more money than almost any non-physician I know.  That&#039;s our reality.  People don&#039;t want to hear us whine, and I don&#039;t blame them. You started med school in 2002.  Maybe you&#039;re still in residency, which, I agree, is abusive.  When you get out, it will be a different world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeterJ, I don&#8217;t think so.  When you become a doctor, you become a member of a privileged, elite group of people who are held in high regard by the public. You might not believe this, but it&#8217;s true.  I have never been unemployed and I never will be. I don&#8217;t kowtow to corporate types.  People treat me (us) with a deference that most people can only dream about, and I am paid a hell of lot more money than almost any non-physician I know.  That&#8217;s our reality.  People don&#8217;t want to hear us whine, and I don&#8217;t blame them.<br /> You started med school in 2002.  Maybe you&#8217;re still in residency, which, I agree, is abusive.  When you get out, it will be a different world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PeterJ</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119372</link> <dc:creator>PeterJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:39:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119372</guid> <description>Sorry, and by rubbish, I meant that that was a rubbish argument.  There are just too many variables that play into it to use that as a justification.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, and by rubbish, I meant that that was a rubbish argument.  There are just too many variables that play into it to use that as a justification.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PeterJ</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119361</link> <dc:creator>PeterJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119361</guid> <description>Good points.  Honestly, though, it has nothing to do with even really crazy things.  Simple things like just venting about work and people you run into there are often frowned upon and can be cause for official reprimands and action.I agree that no one should be doing really crazy things and posting that.  But I know people who have been officially reprimanded for something as basic as posting profanity or complaining about a difficult person they interacted with (in a non-specific, non-confidentiality breaking manner).As for the final comment aobut the salary: pure and utter rubbish.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.  Honestly, though, it has nothing to do with even really crazy things.  Simple things like just venting about work and people you run into there are often frowned upon and can be cause for official reprimands and action.</p><p>I agree that no one should be doing really crazy things and posting that.  But I know people who have been officially reprimanded for something as basic as posting profanity or complaining about a difficult person they interacted with (in a non-specific, non-confidentiality breaking manner).</p><p>As for the final comment aobut the salary: pure and utter rubbish.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jsmith</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119346</link> <dc:creator>jsmith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119346</guid> <description>Hear Hear no one and patient X.  PeterJ .  You  can do all the crazy stuff other people do, but you just shouldn&#039;t  post those things on the internet.  Seems a small price to pay, especially when your salary will be several times the salary of the average American.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear Hear no one and patient X.  PeterJ .  You  can do all the crazy stuff other people do, but you just shouldn&#8217;t  post those things on the internet.  Seems a small price to pay, especially when your salary will be several times the salary of the average American.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patient x</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119320</link> <dc:creator>patient x</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119320</guid> <description>Why do medical students use their real names when they&#039;re being asses on the internet.One such revelation being bragged about was the hazing of a new student in the O.R. doing his first pelvic on an unconscious obese patient.  The &quot;antics&quot; that followed was so disgusting that I  will never chose a teaching hospital if I can help it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do medical students use their real names when they&#8217;re being asses on the internet.</p><p>One such revelation being bragged about was the hazing of a new student in the O.R. doing his first pelvic on an unconscious obese patient.  The &#8220;antics&#8221; that followed was so disgusting that I  will never chose a teaching hospital if I can help it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patrick B</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119299</link> <dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:18:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119299</guid> <description>Posting profanity?  How $%*$@&#039;ing shocking!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting profanity?  How $%*$@&#8217;ing shocking!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: no one</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119227</link> <dc:creator>no one</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119227</guid> <description>Well get over yourself. Why should you be any different than anyone else? Nobody can staple lewd and nekkid pictures of themselves on local lamposts with identifying information along side and expect it won&#039;t impact their lives. Not the teacher, not your mom, not the real estate agent or student doctor.That&#039;s what you&#039;re doing when you &quot;just live&quot; all over some blog or website.Yikes. You docs are really naive about the internet aren&#039;t you? Please don&#039;t get EMR when you&#039;re in practise. Stick with a pencil.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well get over yourself. Why should you be any different than anyone else? Nobody can staple lewd and nekkid pictures of themselves on local lamposts with identifying information along side and expect it won&#8217;t impact their lives. Not the teacher, not your mom, not the real estate agent or student doctor.</p><p>That&#8217;s what you&#8217;re doing when you &#8220;just live&#8221; all over some blog or website.</p><p>Yikes. You docs are really naive about the internet aren&#8217;t you? Please don&#8217;t get EMR when you&#8217;re in practise. Stick with a pencil.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PeterJ</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119189</link> <dc:creator>PeterJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119189</guid> <description>Initially, I found this to be both frightening and startling.  However, I then realized that I have been pretty much self-filtering for years now, easily since I started med school back in 2002.  Blogs I would have liked to have written, words or phrases I may have used, were all eschewed in favor of something that was more, well, sanitized.  All in an effort to ensure I didn&#039;t divulge anything confidential, or anything that could be used against me.I completely agree with the need to protect patient confidentiality.  However, aside from that, I do find it saddening that we are either compelled by extrinsic forces (threat of reprimand or worse) or intrinsic reasons (fear of reprimand or worse) to sanitize our online interactions.  I often feel that I just cannot &quot;live&quot; they way some of my friends who are in other fields can.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially, I found this to be both frightening and startling.  However, I then realized that I have been pretty much self-filtering for years now, easily since I started med school back in 2002.  Blogs I would have liked to have written, words or phrases I may have used, were all eschewed in favor of something that was more, well, sanitized.  All in an effort to ensure I didn&#8217;t divulge anything confidential, or anything that could be used against me.</p><p>I completely agree with the need to protect patient confidentiality.  However, aside from that, I do find it saddening that we are either compelled by extrinsic forces (threat of reprimand or worse) or intrinsic reasons (fear of reprimand or worse) to sanitize our online interactions.  I often feel that I just cannot &#8220;live&#8221; they way some of my friends who are in other fields can.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alchemipedia</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/11/medical-students-post-inappropriate-content-online.html#comment-119184</link> <dc:creator>Alchemipedia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=41335#comment-119184</guid> <description>The historical truth is that many pillars of the medical profession, who behave with utmost probity professionally, have had youthful experiences that they would prefer were not public knowledge. The difference now is that the new social networking world can document these youthful excesses for posterity.It would seem sensible for institutions to warn students of the risks associated with web 2.0 and social networking. The ethics curriculum would be an ideal place for this. I also believe that ethics teaching should begin in the first year of medical training and continue at regular intervals until graduation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The historical truth is that many pillars of the medical profession, who behave with utmost probity professionally, have had youthful experiences that they would prefer were not public knowledge. The difference now is that the new social networking world can document these youthful excesses for posterity.</p><p>It would seem sensible for institutions to warn students of the risks associated with web 2.0 and social networking. The ethics curriculum would be an ideal place for this. I also believe that ethics teaching should begin in the first year of medical training and continue at regular intervals until graduation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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