<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Does the Max Baucus health reform plan do enough for doctors?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113771</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:24:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113771</guid> <description>&quot;The government wants to increase the public access to healthcare by providing insurance for all.&quot;Insurance doesn&#039;t equal access.  Why is this so difficult to understand?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The government wants to increase the public access to healthcare by providing insurance for all.&#8221;</p><p>Insurance doesn&#8217;t equal access.  Why is this so difficult to understand?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: weakanddizzy</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113750</link> <dc:creator>weakanddizzy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113750</guid> <description>Matt is killing me. The government wants to increase the public access to healthcare by providing insurance for all.  Cutting physician reimbursement will only worsen the access problem for all of the newly insured individuals. Oh well, they can just go to the ER for their toenail fungus and knee pain. I&#039;m sure the system will handle that with no trouble at all. Maybe we should send all the trial lawyers back to PA school so they can take care of the masses storming into the ER for their &quot;free&quot; health care.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt is killing me. The government wants to increase the public access to healthcare by providing insurance for all.  Cutting physician reimbursement will only worsen the access problem for all of the newly insured individuals. Oh well, they can just go to the ER for their toenail fungus and knee pain. I&#8217;m sure the system will handle that with no trouble at all. Maybe we should send all the trial lawyers back to PA school so they can take care of the masses storming into the ER for their &#8220;free&#8221; health care.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113748</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:00:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113748</guid> <description>Problem with that is that it will work for a few, but with the govt. paying 50% of all healthcare dollars, only so many of you can.  There are only so many non-Medicare patients to go around these days.  The smart ones will follow your plan early, but if you all do it your salaries still get squeezed as you compete against each other.The only solution will be for the AMA to further restrict the supply of physicians at that point.  Although it&#039;s possible the public, or lawmakers, may start taking a harder look at the available medical school slots and how they are chosen and expand the number.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem with that is that it will work for a few, but with the govt. paying 50% of all healthcare dollars, only so many of you can.  There are only so many non-Medicare patients to go around these days.  The smart ones will follow your plan early, but if you all do it your salaries still get squeezed as you compete against each other.</p><p>The only solution will be for the AMA to further restrict the supply of physicians at that point.  Although it&#8217;s possible the public, or lawmakers, may start taking a harder look at the available medical school slots and how they are chosen and expand the number.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: T Steadmon</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113744</link> <dc:creator>T Steadmon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:04:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113744</guid> <description>Matt, people like to throw out the fact that it is hard for physicians to switch careers, which is true. That does not mean that physicians will not respond as logical players in a market with regard to reimbursement. Yes a surgeon cannot easily decide to some other career, but he can decide what types of cases he does and what kind of call agreement he has with certain hospitals. A lot of surgeons for instance agree to take emergency call, which typically nets the physician barely anything since these patients often have no insurance, but the surgeon will write this off as a loss that is worthwhile since he can make up for this doing other procedures and seeing his clinic patients throughout the week.Now take away the profitable operating days from his schedule. Do you think he is going to be able to afford to take emergency call in the hospital. The answer is no, and I have known physicians that have faced this very dilemma. The result that I have seen is surgeons will stop being one of the &quot;general&quot; surgeons in the town, and will switch to smaller, quicker, and less risky surgeries with less followup. These can often be done in an outpatient surgery center.A hernia repair for instance lets a surgeon bill about 12 RVUs (~$1200) this translates into about $280 for the surgeon after overhead. If you gave up all hospital call and other difficult general surgery procedures and just did simple hernia repairs, say 10/wk with 2 days of clinic you would end up making $2800 after expenses for the hernias and $1000 per week from seeing say 20 clinic patients each clinic day ($25/pt). This translates to around $3800/wk which would be equivalent to $160,000/yr with 10 wks vacation. I have known surgeons that end up making the move to some variant of this schedule to give up the difficult general surgery lifestyle. So the end result is that yes medicare may have saved some money by reducing the reimbursement to this surgeons in this area, but the end result is one less general surgeon available to a town when patients need an operation in the middle of the night.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, people like to throw out the fact that it is hard for physicians to switch careers, which is true. That does not mean that physicians will not respond as logical players in a market with regard to reimbursement. Yes a surgeon cannot easily decide to some other career, but he can decide what types of cases he does and what kind of call agreement he has with certain hospitals. A lot of surgeons for instance agree to take emergency call, which typically nets the physician barely anything since these patients often have no insurance, but the surgeon will write this off as a loss that is worthwhile since he can make up for this doing other procedures and seeing his clinic patients throughout the week.</p><p>Now take away the profitable operating days from his schedule. Do you think he is going to be able to afford to take emergency call in the hospital. The answer is no, and I have known physicians that have faced this very dilemma. The result that I have seen is surgeons will stop being one of the &#8220;general&#8221; surgeons in the town, and will switch to smaller, quicker, and less risky surgeries with less followup. These can often be done in an outpatient surgery center.</p><p>A hernia repair for instance lets a surgeon bill about 12 RVUs (~$1200) this translates into about $280 for the surgeon after overhead. If you gave up all hospital call and other difficult general surgery procedures and just did simple hernia repairs, say 10/wk with 2 days of clinic you would end up making $2800 after expenses for the hernias and $1000 per week from seeing say 20 clinic patients each clinic day ($25/pt). This translates to around $3800/wk which would be equivalent to $160,000/yr with 10 wks vacation. I have known surgeons that end up making the move to some variant of this schedule to give up the difficult general surgery lifestyle. So the end result is that yes medicare may have saved some money by reducing the reimbursement to this surgeons in this area, but the end result is one less general surgeon available to a town when patients need an operation in the middle of the night.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113731</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113731</guid> <description>99, that was pretty funny.But at the end of the day, where are physicians going to go?  Where else are you going to find a job paying an average of $150K, and $250K for surgeons, in a recession, and still maintain your current lifestyles?  (those averages come from the Dept. of Labor).  Simply put, you won&#039;t.Now, maybe it will force you back into the market, but a lot of you would struggle to compete as the rest of us professionals do.  You have to market your services, you have to figure out how to bill, and you have to collect from at times insolvent parties.  How many physicians still know how to do that?  I&#039;m betting not many.But maybe you can figure it out.  I for one, hope so.  But I don&#039;t think your lobbyists are really working hard to push you back into the market.  They&#039;re looking to preserve their own clout by cutting deals within the existing system.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99, that was pretty funny.</p><p>But at the end of the day, where are physicians going to go?  Where else are you going to find a job paying an average of $150K, and $250K for surgeons, in a recession, and still maintain your current lifestyles?  (those averages come from the Dept. of Labor).  Simply put, you won&#8217;t.</p><p>Now, maybe it will force you back into the market, but a lot of you would struggle to compete as the rest of us professionals do.  You have to market your services, you have to figure out how to bill, and you have to collect from at times insolvent parties.  How many physicians still know how to do that?  I&#8217;m betting not many.</p><p>But maybe you can figure it out.  I for one, hope so.  But I don&#8217;t think your lobbyists are really working hard to push you back into the market.  They&#8217;re looking to preserve their own clout by cutting deals within the existing system.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DMS Student</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113729</link> <dc:creator>DMS Student</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:32:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113729</guid> <description>Matt, I think what you fail to realize is that if doctors lose money on Medicare patients, they will not see them. If you&#039;re a lawyer and you have a client who wants to pay you $10 per 15 minute consultation and your overhead for that amount of time is $20, what would you do? There are other patients out there. If there aren&#039;t enough patients to fill in the extra time, take a pay cut, keep the practice open only four days a week and regain some sanity.Honestly, I think it would be great if there were a Medicare cut of 25% because of the SGR. The whole deck of cards would come crashing down when all doctors refused to see Medicare patients. Medicare would have to start paying at sane rates and congress wouldn&#039;t play a game of chicken every year with physicians and the AARP.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I think what you fail to realize is that if doctors lose money on Medicare patients, they will not see them. If you&#8217;re a lawyer and you have a client who wants to pay you $10 per 15 minute consultation and your overhead for that amount of time is $20, what would you do? There are other patients out there. If there aren&#8217;t enough patients to fill in the extra time, take a pay cut, keep the practice open only four days a week and regain some sanity.</p><p>Honestly, I think it would be great if there were a Medicare cut of 25% because of the SGR. The whole deck of cards would come crashing down when all doctors refused to see Medicare patients. Medicare would have to start paying at sane rates and congress wouldn&#8217;t play a game of chicken every year with physicians and the AARP.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc99</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113721</link> <dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:31:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113721</guid> <description>Matt ... law school LOL.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8230; law school LOL.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: FDA to consider small inhaler for diabetes patients – MedCity Morning Read, Oct. 12, 2009 : MedCity News</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113714</link> <dc:creator>FDA to consider small inhaler for diabetes patients – MedCity Morning Read, Oct. 12, 2009 : MedCity News</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:18:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113714</guid> <description>[...] Does the Max Baucus health reform plan do enough for doctors? (KevinMD.com) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does the Max Baucus health reform plan do enough for doctors? (KevinMD.com) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: T Steadmon</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113688</link> <dc:creator>T Steadmon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113688</guid> <description>Nope, the 25% cuts to physicians were one of the many things that were included in the CBO&#039;s most recent cost analysis that was just released last week. This resulted in their analysis showing that the new bill would reduce the deficit unlike the previous version that they found would add to the deficit.The Wall Street Journal article cited by Frank was just published this past Friday. I have not heard any official AMA response, but I would imagine they would not be too thrilled with a 25% cut to physicians seeing medicare patients.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, the 25% cuts to physicians were one of the many things that were included in the CBO&#8217;s most recent cost analysis that was just released last week. This resulted in their analysis showing that the new bill would reduce the deficit unlike the previous version that they found would add to the deficit.</p><p>The Wall Street Journal article cited by Frank was just published this past Friday. I have not heard any official AMA response, but I would imagine they would not be too thrilled with a 25% cut to physicians seeing medicare patients.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/max-baucus-health-reform-plan-doctors.html#comment-113687</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:48:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40465#comment-113687</guid> <description>99 why should anyone worry about driving docs out of Medicare?  Where they going to go?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99 why should anyone worry about driving docs out of Medicare?  Where they going to go?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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