<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Is the public plan option supported by doctors?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:00:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: ninguem</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112366</link> <dc:creator>ninguem</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112366</guid> <description>Anonymous September 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm That&#039;s the most laughable twisted corruption of the English language that I have ever heard. You&#039;re either a reporter or a lawyer.Those with a brain fully understand the press is doing their best to twist the poll into the lie that physicians prefer a public plan over private. Given a choice of one or the other, there was a 3-1 preference for private, even in this poll.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous September 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm<br /> That&#8217;s the most laughable twisted corruption of the English language that I have ever heard. You&#8217;re either a reporter or a lawyer.</p><p>Those with a brain fully understand the press is doing their best to twist the poll into the lie that physicians prefer a public plan over private. Given a choice of one or the other, there was a 3-1 preference for private, even in this poll.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: J87630</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112195</link> <dc:creator>J87630</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:46:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112195</guid> <description>Doc99-The IBD poll and the NEJM poll ask two fundamentally different questions:  The former asks whether docs support Congress&#039; plan while the latter asks specifically about a public option.  First, the IBD poll doesn&#039;t specify which plan, given that there are multiple proposals in both the house and the senate, and doesn&#039;t ask doctors specifically what in the plans they support or oppose.  There is both liberal opposition and conservative opposition to various proposals in each of the plans (i.e. anyone who supports single payer could easily express opposition to the Congressional plans.)  The NEJM poll is equally problematic in that it asks only about a theoretical &quot;public option&quot; removing it from the context of the much maligned Congressional plans.  And the third question from the IBD poll borders on a push poll.   While I agree the disparity is unusually large, the differences in the poll&#039;s themselves likely account for at least some of the difference.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc99-</p><p>The IBD poll and the NEJM poll ask two fundamentally different questions:  The former asks whether docs support Congress&#8217; plan while the latter asks specifically about a public option.  First, the IBD poll doesn&#8217;t specify which plan, given that there are multiple proposals in both the house and the senate, and doesn&#8217;t ask doctors specifically what in the plans they support or oppose.  There is both liberal opposition and conservative opposition to various proposals in each of the plans (i.e. anyone who supports single payer could easily express opposition to the Congressional plans.)  The NEJM poll is equally problematic in that it asks only about a theoretical &#8220;public option&#8221; removing it from the context of the much maligned Congressional plans.  And the third question from the IBD poll borders on a push poll.   While I agree the disparity is unusually large, the differences in the poll&#8217;s themselves likely account for at least some of the difference.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112193</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112193</guid> <description>Ninguem - It&#039;s not a contradiction.  The question was whether the doctors support a public OPTION, not a public system (single-payer).  That is the same thing as supporting a CHOICE between public and private plans. OPTION = CHOICE in this context.  So yes, according to this particular poll, &quot;Physicians support a public OPTION.&quot;  In this debate, to support the public option is to support the inclusion of a public plan into the bill, not a statement of preference of one vs. other.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ninguem &#8211; It&#8217;s not a contradiction.  The question was whether the doctors support a public OPTION, not a public system (single-payer).  That is the same thing as supporting a CHOICE between public and private plans. OPTION = CHOICE in this context.  So yes, according to this particular poll, &#8220;Physicians support a public OPTION.&#8221;  In this debate, to support the public option is to support the inclusion of a public plan into the bill, not a statement of preference of one vs. other.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc Stone</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112190</link> <dc:creator>Doc Stone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:52:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112190</guid> <description>I think only a minority of docs say they want more public insurance--but the ones that I know who do are also the most prone to whine and complain about medicare and medicaid.  There is no accounting for human irrationality.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think only a minority of docs say they want more public insurance&#8211;but the ones that I know who do are also the most prone to whine and complain about medicare and medicaid.  There is no accounting for human irrationality.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Russ</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112186</link> <dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112186</guid> <description>NOT TRUE, NEJMThis NEJM cover-up of its political ties is proof that NEJM cannot be believed.------RE: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-PaidThursday, September 17, 2009 8:36 AMFrom: &quot;Guth, Lindsay&quot;To: XXXXX@yahoo.comDear Mr. XXX,Thank you for your feedback.Perspective articles are opinion-oriented -- not research-oriented -- so relevant affiliations are not against our policy for these articles.Sincerely,Lindsay Guth Perspective Researcher New England Journal of Medicine P: 617-487-6539 F: 781-207-6529 lguth@nejm.org-----Original Message-----From: NEJM, CustomerSent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:56 AMTo: NEJM Editorial; NEJM, CommentsCc: Johnson, LouisaSubject: FW: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-PaidDear Colleague,I am forwarding the customer comments appearing below which pertain to your area. I have responded to this customer advising that their comments have been forwarded to the appropriate area within the company.Sincerely, Judy Benford Customer Service Representative nejmcust@mms.org-----Original Message-----From: XXXX@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:53 PM To: NEJM, Customer Subject: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-PaidTo the Editors:about this --http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/10/e101The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-Paid Health InsuranceDid the NEJM feel the need *not* to identify the two authors as the founders of the MD single-payer group &quot;Physicians for a National Health Program?&quot;http://www.pnhp.org/Why? Reputable publications fully disclose their writers&#039; major memberships.Very, very disappointing.This supports the claims that NEJM is very biased to one political group.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT TRUE, NEJM</p><p>This NEJM cover-up of its political ties is proof that NEJM cannot be believed.</p><p>&#8212;&#8212;</p><p>RE: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-Paid</p><p>Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:36 AM</p><p>From: &#8220;Guth, Lindsay&#8221;</p><p>To: <a href="mailto:XXXXX@yahoo.com">XXXXX@yahoo.com</a></p><p>Dear Mr. XXX,</p><p>Thank you for your feedback.</p><p>Perspective articles are opinion-oriented &#8212; not research-oriented &#8212; so relevant affiliations are not against our policy for these articles.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Lindsay Guth<br /> Perspective Researcher<br /> New England Journal of Medicine<br /> P: 617-487-6539<br /> F: 781-207-6529<br /> <a href="mailto:lguth@nejm.org">lguth@nejm.org</a></p><p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;</p><p>From: NEJM, Customer</p><p>Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:56 AM</p><p>To: NEJM Editorial; NEJM, Comments</p><p>Cc: Johnson, Louisa</p><p>Subject: FW: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-Paid</p><p>Dear Colleague,</p><p>I am forwarding the customer comments appearing below which pertain to your area. I have responded to this customer advising that their comments have been forwarded to the appropriate area within the company.</p><p>Sincerely,<br /> Judy Benford<br /> Customer Service Representative<br /> <a href="mailto:nejmcust@mms.org">nejmcust@mms.org</a></p><p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;</p><p>From: <a href="mailto:XXXX@yahoo.com">XXXX@yahoo.com</a><br /> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:53 PM<br /> To: NEJM, Customer<br /> Subject: General Questions and Comments: The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-Paid</p><p>To the Editors:</p><p>about this &#8211;</p><p><a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/10/e101" rel="nofollow">http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/10/e101</a></p><p>The Regressivity of Taxing Employer-Paid Health Insurance</p><p>Did the NEJM feel the need *not* to identify the two authors as the founders of the MD single-payer group &#8220;Physicians for a National Health Program?&#8221;</p><p><a href="http://www.pnhp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnhp.org/</a></p><p>Why? Reputable publications fully disclose their writers&#8217; major memberships.</p><p>Very, very disappointing.</p><p>This supports the claims that NEJM is very biased to one political group.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: docguy</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112169</link> <dc:creator>docguy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:41:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112169</guid> <description>the media has decided what they want so they pull out crap polls and studies that go along with what they want the end result to be,case in point, the headline on usatoday.com right now about the crap study that proves that not having health insurance kills you from the association to socialize medicine.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the media has decided what they want so they pull out crap polls and studies that go along with what they want the end result to be,</p><p>case in point, the headline on usatoday.com right now about the crap study that proves that not having health insurance kills you from the association to socialize medicine.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ninguem</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112149</link> <dc:creator>ninguem</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112149</guid> <description>&quot;About 63% of doctors, across a smattering of specialties and in various geographic regions, support a public insurance option. &quot;&quot;The majority of physicians (63%) said they support a mixture of public and private plans&quot;Author contradicts herself in her own article. The question that got the 63% response was whether physicians favored giving the public a CHOICE of a public plan like Medicare (&quot;like Medicare&quot; was the wording in the question) or private plans.Favoring a CHOICE of A or B does not mean the respondent favors one or the other. Yet everywhere the state-run media ran headlines that &quot;Physicians favor public option&quot;.Journalistic incompetence, or bias.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;About 63% of doctors, across a smattering of specialties and in various geographic regions, support a public insurance option. &#8221;</p><p>&#8220;The majority of physicians (63%) said they support a mixture of public and private plans&#8221;</p><p>Author contradicts herself in her own article. The question that got the 63% response was whether physicians favored giving the public a CHOICE of a public plan like Medicare (&#8220;like Medicare&#8221; was the wording in the question) or private plans.</p><p>Favoring a CHOICE of A or B does not mean the respondent favors one or the other. Yet everywhere the state-run media ran headlines that &#8220;Physicians favor public option&#8221;.</p><p>Journalistic incompetence, or bias.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc99</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112148</link> <dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112148</guid> <description>Most Americans now favor &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551520,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; the status quo.&lt;/a&gt; Moreover, I have a difficult time reconciling the poll cited by NEJM with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this poll &lt;/a&gt; from Investors Business Daily.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Americans now favor <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551520,00.html" rel="nofollow"> the status quo.</a> Moreover, I have a difficult time reconciling the poll cited by NEJM with <a href="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199" rel="nofollow"> this poll </a> from Investors Business Daily.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: docguy</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112140</link> <dc:creator>docguy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:46:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112140</guid> <description>i have yet to speak to a doctor who is favor of this so If it&#039;s really 60% did they just ask people who are in a little bit of favor or a lot of favor or maybe people who were in the room with them at the time.I am in the doctors lunch room at my hospital every single day and no one is in favor of this.Also I noticed a study that said that 45,000 people die each year because they don&#039;t have insurance and it&#039;s from a group that wants to make sure that there is socialized medicine.  Well I&#039;m amazed their study proved that. sarcasm implied.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have yet to speak to a doctor who is favor of this so If it&#8217;s really 60% did they just ask people who are in a little bit of favor or a lot of favor or maybe people who were in the room with them at the time.</p><p>I am in the doctors lunch room at my hospital every single day and no one is in favor of this.</p><p> Also I noticed a study that said that 45,000 people die each year because they don&#8217;t have insurance and it&#8217;s from a group that wants to make sure that there is socialized medicine.  Well I&#8217;m amazed their study proved that. sarcasm implied.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc99</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/09/public-plan-option-supported-doctors.html#comment-112138</link> <dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=40193#comment-112138</guid> <description>It&#039;s difficult to reconcile the NEJM poll with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this one.&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult to reconcile the NEJM poll with <a href="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199" rel="nofollow"> this one.</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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