<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Should patients be striving for perfect health?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Chris</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109191</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:26:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109191</guid> <description>I think more patients should be given an OPTION.  Tell them that nothing HAS to be treated.  Patients are sentient beings who can make decisions for themselves.  If you don&#039;t want to talk 32 pills a day, then don&#039;t.  You will have consequences X, Y and Z, but at least you won&#039;t have side effects A, B and C.  It&#039;s your decision.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think more patients should be given an OPTION.  Tell them that nothing HAS to be treated.  Patients are sentient beings who can make decisions for themselves.  If you don&#8217;t want to talk 32 pills a day, then don&#8217;t.  You will have consequences X, Y and Z, but at least you won&#8217;t have side effects A, B and C.  It&#8217;s your decision.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paula R. Robinson, M.D.</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109131</link> <dc:creator>Paula R. Robinson, M.D.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:46:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109131</guid> <description>As a hospitalist, I have discovered that 85-95% (depending on time of year) of the people I treat have low levels of Vitamin D. I have also discovered that by screening and using cholecalciferol (that&#039;s cholecalciferol, people, or Vitamin D3 to you Walmart shoppers) liberally I shorten length of stay and effect quick (occasionally amazing) clinical turnaround in autoimmune disease, decubs, cardiomyopathy, encephalopathy and a wide range of other illnesses not (yet) robustly linked to Vitamin D levels. I am told by other hospitalists that this is not my job. My job is said to be to make people &quot;less sick&quot; enough to go home (not apparently to try to keep them from becoming repeat customers). Modern medicine, you reek.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a hospitalist, I have discovered that 85-95% (depending on time of year) of the people I treat have low levels of Vitamin D. I have also discovered that by screening and using cholecalciferol (that&#8217;s cholecalciferol, people, or Vitamin D3 to you Walmart shoppers) liberally I shorten length of stay and effect quick (occasionally amazing) clinical turnaround in autoimmune disease, decubs, cardiomyopathy, encephalopathy and a wide range of other illnesses not (yet) robustly linked to Vitamin D levels. I am told by other hospitalists that this is not my job. My job is said to be to make people &#8220;less sick&#8221; enough to go home (not apparently to try to keep them from becoming repeat customers). Modern medicine, you reek.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SarahW</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109112</link> <dc:creator>SarahW</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:41:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109112</guid> <description>One thing about incidentalomas - an abnormal finding on imaging done for another purpose - they do not necessarily &quot;require&quot; further workup, in the sense that a patient has no other option.   Risks vs. benefit for further testing needs to be relayed accurately and reasonable guidance given.  Patients can certainly be told the truth about any finding,  and follow the treatment course most suited to their individual, unique situations.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about incidentalomas &#8211; an abnormal finding on imaging done for another purpose &#8211; they do not necessarily &#8220;require&#8221; further workup, in the sense that a patient has no other option.   Risks vs. benefit for further testing needs to be relayed accurately and reasonable guidance given.  Patients can certainly be told the truth about any finding,  and follow the treatment course most suited to their individual, unique situations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ...</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109110</link> <dc:creator>...</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:17:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109110</guid> <description>Brent has it with this sentence: &quot;Lowering the bar on what “health” means is not the solution - raising the bar on patient responsibility for their own health is.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent has it with this sentence:<br /> &#8220;Lowering the bar on what “health” means is not the solution &#8211; raising the bar on patient responsibility for their own health is.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brent</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109099</link> <dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:28:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109099</guid> <description>This article seems totally wrong-headed.  A better question to ask is, &quot;should people strive for optimal health?&quot;Yes, they should.  It will involve high levels of fitness as a main goal.What should the doctor&#039;s role be?  The article presupposes that doctors goals are to diagnose and &lt;em&gt;treat&lt;/em&gt; &quot;sickness&quot;, and to test for results that are within &quot;normal&quot; ranges.  However, if their goal were to help people achieve optimal health instead, then they could give their patients &lt;em&gt;feedback&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;advice&lt;/em&gt; instead of merely diagnosing illness.  For example, develop some basic fitness tests and encourage them to get physically fit.  Help them avoid illness by encouraging them to take care of themselves.  Instead of providing &lt;em&gt;treatment&lt;/em&gt; for early stages, put it in the patient&#039;s hands: you &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; develop heart disease if you don&#039;t bring your cholesterol down - here is what you need to do (without statins, etc).Lowering the bar on what &quot;health&quot; means is not the solution - raising the bar on patient responsibility for their own health is.  More testing is better, because it can provide feedback and guide patient lifestyle choices.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article seems totally wrong-headed.  A better question to ask is, &#8220;should people strive for optimal health?&#8221;</p><p>Yes, they should.  It will involve high levels of fitness as a main goal.</p><p>What should the doctor&#8217;s role be?  The article presupposes that doctors goals are to diagnose and <em>treat</em> &#8220;sickness&#8221;, and to test for results that are within &#8220;normal&#8221; ranges.  However, if their goal were to help people achieve optimal health instead, then they could give their patients <em>feedback</em> and <em>advice</em> instead of merely diagnosing illness.  For example, develop some basic fitness tests and encourage them to get physically fit.  Help them avoid illness by encouraging them to take care of themselves.  Instead of providing <em>treatment</em> for early stages, put it in the patient&#8217;s hands: you <b>will</b> develop heart disease if you don&#8217;t bring your cholesterol down &#8211; here is what you need to do (without statins, etc).</p><p>Lowering the bar on what &#8220;health&#8221; means is not the solution &#8211; raising the bar on patient responsibility for their own health is.  More testing is better, because it can provide feedback and guide patient lifestyle choices.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109090</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:32:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109090</guid> <description>&quot;Normal&quot; and &quot;healthy&quot; are not the same thing, though.  In the US, it is &quot;normal&quot; for people aged 45-64 to be on some sort of drugs for chronic conditions (I read a post in some forum where a 55 year old man wrote that he surprised doctors and nurses simply by telling them that he was taking &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; medication).Of course, some of these chronic conditions for which people take medication are due to poor health habits.  It is &quot;normal&quot; for adults in the US to be overfat.  It is &quot;normal&quot; in the US to eat a lot of junk food while not eating much vegetables.  It is &quot;normal&quot; in the US to not exercise very much, even to the point of actively avoiding exercise (e.g. waiting for a crowded or slow escalator or elevator instead of walking up the stairs).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Normal&#8221; and &#8220;healthy&#8221; are not the same thing, though.  In the US, it is &#8220;normal&#8221; for people aged 45-64 to be on some sort of drugs for chronic conditions (I read a post in some forum where a 55 year old man wrote that he surprised doctors and nurses simply by telling them that he was taking <i>no</i> medication).</p><p>Of course, some of these chronic conditions for which people take medication are due to poor health habits.  It is &#8220;normal&#8221; for adults in the US to be overfat.  It is &#8220;normal&#8221; in the US to eat a lot of junk food while not eating much vegetables.  It is &#8220;normal&#8221; in the US to not exercise very much, even to the point of actively avoiding exercise (e.g. waiting for a crowded or slow escalator or elevator instead of walking up the stairs).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/should-patients-be-striving-for-perfect-health.html#comment-109088</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39455#comment-109088</guid> <description>I agree that imaging studies are finding a lot &quot;incidentalomas&quot; that often necessitate further workup, driving up costs, as well as morbidity and mortality.However, I disagree with their chosen examples of hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and diabetes. There are clear benefits to treating hypertension to the goal of &lt; 140/90 (or  125 remains the diagnostic criteria. This cutoff was taken from classic studies that determined at which point end-organ damage was first appearing. I think it&#039;s a good idea to identify people with &quot;pre-diabetes&quot; or impaired fasting glucose, as this is the group which can benefit most from therapeutic lifestyle change (diet and exercise) to avoid getting frank DM2.So for these disease entities, I don&#039;t think that the &quot;medical-industrial complex&quot; is trying to find more ways to label people, but rather to identify those in whom you can intervene early. It&#039;s the diagnoses of restless leg syndrome, adult ADHD, &quot;bulging discs&quot; that I doubt.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that imaging studies are finding a lot &#8220;incidentalomas&#8221; that often necessitate further workup, driving up costs, as well as morbidity and mortality.</p><p>However, I disagree with their chosen examples of hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and diabetes. There are clear benefits to treating hypertension to the goal of &lt; 140/90 (or  125 remains the diagnostic criteria. This cutoff was taken from classic studies that determined at which point end-organ damage was first appearing. I think it&#8217;s a good idea to identify people with &#8220;pre-diabetes&#8221; or impaired fasting glucose, as this is the group which can benefit most from therapeutic lifestyle change (diet and exercise) to avoid getting frank DM2.</p><p>So for these disease entities, I don&#8217;t think that the &#8220;medical-industrial complex&#8221; is trying to find more ways to label people, but rather to identify those in whom you can intervene early. It&#8217;s the diagnoses of restless leg syndrome, adult ADHD, &#8220;bulging discs&#8221; that I doubt.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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