<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Michael Jackson dead from propofol, is Dr. Conrad Murray solely to blame?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:00:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: lois</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-112256</link> <dc:creator>lois</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:10:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-112256</guid> <description>I understand that the Dr, did know what drugs Michael was on,he had the files,so he can&#039;t say he did not know what he was taking. Dr. Murray killed Michael.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the Dr, did know what drugs Michael was on,he had the files,so he can&#8217;t say he did not know what he was taking. Dr. Murray killed Michael.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AnesthesiaDoc</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-111254</link> <dc:creator>AnesthesiaDoc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-111254</guid> <description>It bothers me that the media hasn&#039;t addressed the very disturbing issue of civil vs. criminal in this case.  HappyHospitalist&#039;s concerns are very real.  I live in a rural area that still has doctors that make housecalls (though I don&#039;t obviously).  Are these docs to be prosecuted everytime some patient dies at home from an overdose after taking their xanax and perhaps a glass of wine?  This is a very slippery slope and bureaucrats love to follow the letter of the law.Yes this doc was negligent.  Yes he is guilty of VERY poor judgement, poor skill and he was in over his head.  Yes he exhibited questionable ethics at best and yes he should lose his license to practice medicine for the rest of his life, but I am personally very afraid of him being prosecuted criminally for practicing medicine in any way, regardless of the setting.I would expect to see the AMA issuing a position on the topic in general but after their limp stance on &quot;healthcare reform&quot; I have come to see the AMA for what it is...but that&#039;s another topic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It bothers me that the media hasn&#8217;t addressed the very disturbing issue of civil vs. criminal in this case.  HappyHospitalist&#8217;s concerns are very real.  I live in a rural area that still has doctors that make housecalls (though I don&#8217;t obviously).  Are these docs to be prosecuted everytime some patient dies at home from an overdose after taking their xanax and perhaps a glass of wine?  This is a very slippery slope and bureaucrats love to follow the letter of the law.</p><p>Yes this doc was negligent.  Yes he is guilty of VERY poor judgement, poor skill and he was in over his head.  Yes he exhibited questionable ethics at best and yes he should lose his license to practice medicine for the rest of his life, but I am personally very afraid of him being prosecuted criminally for practicing medicine in any way, regardless of the setting.</p><p>I would expect to see the AMA issuing a position on the topic in general but after their limp stance on &#8220;healthcare reform&#8221; I have come to see the AMA for what it is&#8230;but that&#8217;s another topic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BNS</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-111073</link> <dc:creator>BNS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:33:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-111073</guid> <description>I understand the logic of this article.  However, there is one large flaw.  It is this:The author assumes that the timeline Murray provided to the LAPD is the truth.  We must remember that we are talking about information coming from a doctor who did not call paramedics until 90 minutes after his patient died and then withheld information from those paramedics.  This physician also withheld information from the emergency room healthcare professionals and left the hospital after directions from the LAPD to remain there for questioning.  The in his interview 2 days later he did not tell the LAPD about the 3 telephone calls, lasting a total of 47 minutes, he made before he called the paramedics to the house.If the author then chooses to selectively believe that the information above is truthful, then I suppose the resulting article has some merit.  But after &quot;considering the source,&quot; I am hesitant to agree that Jackson was wide awake between all of these injections of sedatives, meaning that he had such a resistance to them that an addiction can be assumed.It seems to me that the sedatives were Dr. Murray&#039;s idea, not Jackson&#039;s.  And taking into consideration the fact that Jackson had passed a recent physical and a blood test given by a nurse practioner showed no drugs in his system, I would be more apt to believe that, just as the coroner states on the death certificate, it was the propofol that killed Jackson - the propofol administered by an unlicensed physician outside of a hospital context.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the logic of this article.  However, there is one large flaw.  It is this:</p><p>The author assumes that the timeline Murray provided to the LAPD is the truth.  We must remember that we are talking about information coming from a doctor who did not call paramedics until 90 minutes after his patient died and then withheld information from those paramedics.  This physician also withheld information from the emergency room healthcare professionals and left the hospital after directions from the LAPD to remain there for questioning.  The in his interview 2 days later he did not tell the LAPD about the 3 telephone calls, lasting a total of 47 minutes, he made before he called the paramedics to the house.</p><p>If the author then chooses to selectively believe that the information above is truthful, then I suppose the resulting article has some merit.  But after &#8220;considering the source,&#8221; I am hesitant to agree that Jackson was wide awake between all of these injections of sedatives, meaning that he had such a resistance to them that an addiction can be assumed.</p><p>It seems to me that the sedatives were Dr. Murray&#8217;s idea, not Jackson&#8217;s.  And taking into consideration the fact that Jackson had passed a recent physical and a blood test given by a nurse practioner showed no drugs in his system, I would be more apt to believe that, just as the coroner states on the death certificate, it was the propofol that killed Jackson &#8211; the propofol administered by an unlicensed physician outside of a hospital context.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Karen</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-111072</link> <dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:23:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-111072</guid> <description>Hello all I think you guys are missing something.  All of the sedates found in Mr Jackson were given to him by Dr Murray.  This was not something he was taken just because it was something that the doctor gave him.  And I also want to point out Conrad Murray it seems never bothered to find out what other kind of medications Mr Jackson was taken.  And about the CPR he said he performed CPR holding him up with one hand and doing chest compressions with the other one.  But he left out the fact that was on the phone for forty seven minutes.  So unless he has three arms he was not doing CPR at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all I think you guys are missing something.  All of the sedates found in Mr Jackson were given to him by Dr Murray.  This was not something he was taken just because it was something that the doctor gave him.  And I also want to point out Conrad Murray it seems never bothered to find out what other kind of medications Mr Jackson was taken.  And about the CPR he said he performed CPR holding him up with one hand and doing chest compressions with the other one.  But he left out the fact that was on the phone for forty seven minutes.  So unless he has three arms he was not doing CPR at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sonya lazarevic MD</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110796</link> <dc:creator>sonya lazarevic MD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:50:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110796</guid> <description>as an aside from the current ongoing argument...making assessments of MJ&#039;s psychiatric diagnosis based on his profession plus a distant observation without a formal evaluation by a skilled psychiatrist is dangerous and unfair to him or any public or private person.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as an aside from the current ongoing argument&#8230;</p><p>making assessments of MJ&#8217;s psychiatric diagnosis based on his profession plus a distant observation without a formal evaluation by a skilled psychiatrist is dangerous and unfair to him or any public or private person.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dawood</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110728</link> <dc:creator>Dawood</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:43:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110728</guid> <description>P Diddy had very precisely described the genius of Michael Jackson: &quot;He showed that you can actually see the beat. He made the music come to life. He made me believe in magic.&quot;I&#039;ve tried to collect allnotable tributes paid to Michael Jackson by peers:http://www.tributespaid.com/category/m/michael-jackson</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P Diddy had very precisely described the genius of Michael Jackson: &#8220;He showed that you can actually see the beat. He made the music come to life. He made me believe in magic.&#8221;</p><p>I&#8217;ve tried to collect allnotable tributes paid to Michael Jackson by peers:</p><p><a href="http://www.tributespaid.com/category/m/michael-jackson" rel="nofollow">http://www.tributespaid.com/category/m/michael-jackson</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elizabeth</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110645</link> <dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:41:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110645</guid> <description>Not only did Murray drug up Michael Jackson, he didn’t do CPR the correct way, and he&#039;s an interventional cardiologist! Furthermore, it has been reported that he waited 82 minutes to phone 911 after finding Michael was not breathing. Stop defending the man, he&#039;s a bad doctor, and needs to lose his license. He cared more about money than a human life and in this case failed medical ethics 101. Not withstanding, he murdered Michael Jackson. After learning these sordid details would you want Conrad Murray to be your personal physician?  My answer would be no way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did Murray drug up Michael Jackson, he didn’t do CPR the correct way, and he&#8217;s an interventional cardiologist! Furthermore, it has been reported that he waited 82 minutes to phone 911 after finding Michael was not breathing. Stop defending the man, he&#8217;s a bad doctor, and needs to lose his license. He cared more about money than a human life and in this case failed medical ethics 101. Not withstanding, he murdered Michael Jackson. After learning these sordid details would you want Conrad Murray to be your personal physician?  My answer would be no way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anon</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110516</link> <dc:creator>anon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110516</guid> <description>I said from the beginning, I&#039;ll say it again, I would be reluctant (to put it mildly) to bring up criminal charges unless there was evidence of intent. I&#039;ll defer that to real lawyers and all that.Gross negligence is another matter. And yes it is light years away. I&#039;m a physician too, I use propofol in my field. You don&#039;t use propofol under the conditions like Jackson&#039;s.No, I wouldn&#039;t criminally prosecute, I&#039;d suspend a license pending investigation. But then again, I&#039;m not on any medical board, so that opinion and a few bucks gets you a latte.I agree, you don&#039;t criminally prosecute a doctor for bad judgement, or even stupidity. You take away their license to practice.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said from the beginning, I&#8217;ll say it again, I would be reluctant (to put it mildly) to bring up criminal charges unless there was evidence of intent. I&#8217;ll defer that to real lawyers and all that.</p><p>Gross negligence is another matter. And yes it is light years away. I&#8217;m a physician too, I use propofol in my field. You don&#8217;t use propofol under the conditions like Jackson&#8217;s.</p><p>No, I wouldn&#8217;t criminally prosecute, I&#8217;d suspend a license pending investigation. But then again, I&#8217;m not on any medical board, so that opinion and a few bucks gets you a latte.</p><p>I agree, you don&#8217;t criminally prosecute a doctor for bad judgement, or even stupidity. You take away their license to practice.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bruce Small</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110465</link> <dc:creator>Bruce Small</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:17:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110465</guid> <description>I thought the physician&#039;s responsibility was to help the patient, which is not quite the same as giving the patient whatever drugs he craves for whatever short-term relief he wants, now.The local drug dealer can do that, and the local drug dealer might have done a better job of managing the dose. Certainly he couldn&#039;t have done a worse job.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the physician&#8217;s responsibility was to help the patient, which is not quite the same as giving the patient whatever drugs he craves for whatever short-term relief he wants, now.</p><p>The local drug dealer can do that, and the local drug dealer might have done a better job of managing the dose. Certainly he couldn&#8217;t have done a worse job.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank Drackman</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/michael-jackson-dead-from-propofol-is-dr-conrad-murray-solely-to-blame.html#comment-110457</link> <dc:creator>Frank Drackman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39771#comment-110457</guid> <description>Jeez, So How Many Angels can dance on the head of a pin.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, So How Many Angels can dance on the head of a pin&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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