Comments on: Are female surgeons happier than their male counterparts? http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-female-surgeons-happier-than-their-male-counterparts.html medical blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:06:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Whitny http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-female-surgeons-happier-than-their-male-counterparts.html/comment-page-1#comment-108923 Whitny Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:48:00 +0000 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39329#comment-108923 Primary Care Internist brings up an interesting (if uncomfortable) possibility which he then fails to support with anything other than anecdotes from his medical school. I'd like to know what percentage of the physician shortage is actually attributable to women working part-time and "second-career" students being so damn old and useless. PCI, have you considered that women may prefer to work "part-time" during their early childbearing years but return to full time work later? Do the gifts that second-career students bring to medicine make up for the fact that their career in medicine will be shorter than some clueless 21 year old dude with an undergraduate degree in chemistry? Should diversity and equality be sacraficed for their unknown (probably small to zero) contribution to the physcian shortage? Your argument is like me saying that all the doctors I've met who have ditched medical practice completely MID-CAREER for more lucrative opportunities are male, so, you know, thanks to all you men causing the physician shortage. Primary Care Internist brings up an interesting (if uncomfortable) possibility which he then fails to support with anything other than anecdotes from his medical school. I’d like to know what percentage of the physician shortage is actually attributable to women working part-time and “second-career” students being so damn old and useless. PCI, have you considered that women may prefer to work “part-time” during their early childbearing years but return to full time work later? Do the gifts that second-career students bring to medicine make up for the fact that their career in medicine will be shorter than some clueless 21 year old dude with an undergraduate degree in chemistry? Should diversity and equality be sacraficed for their unknown (probably small to zero) contribution to the physcian shortage? Your argument is like me saying that all the doctors I’ve met who have ditched medical practice completely MID-CAREER for more lucrative opportunities are male, so, you know, thanks to all you men causing the physician shortage.

]]> By: Primary Care Internist http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-female-surgeons-happier-than-their-male-counterparts.html/comment-page-1#comment-108612 Primary Care Internist Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:38:52 +0000 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39329#comment-108612 the question and answer can easily be restated as : "part-time workers are happier than full-time workers", big freakin' shocker. I don't think I can name a single female med school colleague who works full time. In fact, most don't work at all, being married to breadwinners in law, medicine, and finance. If there's to be a real discussion of physician shortages, med schools need to address that, however uncomfortable it makes committees to openly address. The issue is the same regarding older "second-career" students. I once had an academic research MD/PhD ("mudd-fudd") extoll the virtues of his med school admissions committee (major academic center in the Bronx, NY) decision to admit a mother & daughter. When I pointed out the physician shortage projection issue, he looked at me like i just screamed an expletive in a crowded room. the question and answer can easily be restated as :

“part-time workers are happier than full-time workers”, big freakin’ shocker.

I don’t think I can name a single female med school colleague who works full time. In fact, most don’t work at all, being married to breadwinners in law, medicine, and finance.

If there’s to be a real discussion of physician shortages, med schools need to address that, however uncomfortable it makes committees to openly address. The issue is the same regarding older “second-career” students.

I once had an academic research MD/PhD (”mudd-fudd”) extoll the virtues of his med school admissions committee (major academic center in the Bronx, NY) decision to admit a mother & daughter. When I pointed out the physician shortage projection issue, he looked at me like i just screamed an expletive in a crowded room.

]]> By: Web Media Daily – July 28, 2009 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-female-surgeons-happier-than-their-male-counterparts.html/comment-page-1#comment-108605 Web Media Daily – July 28, 2009 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:42:41 +0000 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39329#comment-108605 [...] Are female surgeons happier than their male counterparts?…   Kevin, M.D. [...] [...] Are female surgeons happier than their male counterparts?…   Kevin, M.D. [...]

]]> By: alex http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-female-surgeons-happier-than-their-male-counterparts.html/comment-page-1#comment-108599 alex Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:48:56 +0000 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/?p=39329#comment-108599 "The answer appears to be yes"? "women were somewhat more likely than men to say they would choose the surgical profession again (82.5% versus 77.5%, P=0.15)," I hope this isn't the level of statistical analysis you apply when reviewing papers for deciding how to practice. “The answer appears to be yes”?

“women were somewhat more likely than men to say they would choose the surgical profession again (82.5% versus 77.5%, P=0.15),”

I hope this isn’t the level of statistical analysis you apply when reviewing papers for deciding how to practice.

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