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		<title>By: Georgette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take tylenol with codeine one to three tablets daily due to chronic pain associated with a torn miniscus and diabetic neuropathy. Prior to that I had been on Vioxx which relieved the pain but we all know what happened to that. Other NSAIDS caused rectal bleeding. I use the tylenol with codeine carefully and only when needed. I makes the difference between being reasonably comfortable and being in much pain. Doctors should not be wary of prescribing opium related drugs WHEN NEEDED. But care should be taken to appropriately each case over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take tylenol with codeine one to three tablets daily due to chronic pain associated with a torn miniscus and diabetic neuropathy. Prior to that I had been on Vioxx which relieved the pain but we all know what happened to that. Other NSAIDS caused rectal bleeding. I use the tylenol with codeine carefully and only when needed. I makes the difference between being reasonably comfortable and being in much pain. Doctors should not be wary of prescribing opium related drugs WHEN NEEDED. But care should be taken to appropriately each case over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Rocktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Rocktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LastoftheZucchiniFlowers,

Thank YOU for clarifying what it was that you &quot;must have&quot; (originally) intended to mean. Perhaps (at times) we can all learn from the thoughts (however seemingly adverse) arising out of the humble minds other fellow human beings ...

I leave you with the following (lightly embellished) adage (capitalized so that the whole world know that I am emphatically serious!):

&quot;TRUTH (as often as not) &quot;IS&quot; (even) &quot;STRANGER THAN FICTION&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LastoftheZucchiniFlowers,</p>
<p>Thank YOU for clarifying what it was that you &#8220;must have&#8221; (originally) intended to mean. Perhaps (at times) we can all learn from the thoughts (however seemingly adverse) arising out of the humble minds other fellow human beings &#8230;</p>
<p>I leave you with the following (lightly embellished) adage (capitalized so that the whole world know that I am emphatically serious!):</p>
<p>&#8220;TRUTH (as often as not) &#8220;IS&#8221; (even) &#8220;STRANGER THAN FICTION&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LastoftheZucchiniFlowers,
Perhaps I misunderstood your other post also, I will agree that the ER is no place to get your refills for your pain medications with one exception. The DEA has gotten so gun ho on investigating and pulling the license of doctors because they may not have their paperwork exactly write or a few other horror stories I have heard and read about. If your doctor gets investigated and they take all his medical records you can&#039;t get in to see a pain specialist in a couple of weeks my experience has been it will take you at least 30 days in the state I&#039;m in, so in a case like that I make it a point to obtain copies of my medical records and keep them as up to date as possible. With this in hand and your proof of past prescriptions which the pharmacy will give you I think that is an emergency case because you could go into withdrawl and die from that. I hope some other patients are reading this and take heed it could happen to your doctor at any time. My doctor works in an office with 7 other doctors the DEA walked in not to long ago and named the doctor he wanted to check out and told his nurse to pull him 3 random files and bring them to him. She complied, his paper work was all in order and they passed that go around but doctors must require all that paperwork you have to fill out to cover their butt and their lively hood they have spent a lot of money and a lot of hours to get to where they are so try to see it from their side one slip and their license may get pulled and without a license a doctor is dead in the water. I thank God for those that do take the time to listen, keep their paper work straight, and ask me for any copies I may have that they need. It covers us all because I could not stand the excruciating pain levels I would experience without my meds this has happened to me twice before and I was admitted to the hospital because my blood pressure was so high they was afraid I was going to pop a valve. I salute all you doctors who truly try to help those who suffer with chronic intractable pain disease.
Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LastoftheZucchiniFlowers,<br />
Perhaps I misunderstood your other post also, I will agree that the ER is no place to get your refills for your pain medications with one exception. The DEA has gotten so gun ho on investigating and pulling the license of doctors because they may not have their paperwork exactly write or a few other horror stories I have heard and read about. If your doctor gets investigated and they take all his medical records you can&#8217;t get in to see a pain specialist in a couple of weeks my experience has been it will take you at least 30 days in the state I&#8217;m in, so in a case like that I make it a point to obtain copies of my medical records and keep them as up to date as possible. With this in hand and your proof of past prescriptions which the pharmacy will give you I think that is an emergency case because you could go into withdrawl and die from that. I hope some other patients are reading this and take heed it could happen to your doctor at any time. My doctor works in an office with 7 other doctors the DEA walked in not to long ago and named the doctor he wanted to check out and told his nurse to pull him 3 random files and bring them to him. She complied, his paper work was all in order and they passed that go around but doctors must require all that paperwork you have to fill out to cover their butt and their lively hood they have spent a lot of money and a lot of hours to get to where they are so try to see it from their side one slip and their license may get pulled and without a license a doctor is dead in the water. I thank God for those that do take the time to listen, keep their paper work straight, and ask me for any copies I may have that they need. It covers us all because I could not stand the excruciating pain levels I would experience without my meds this has happened to me twice before and I was admitted to the hospital because my blood pressure was so high they was afraid I was going to pop a valve. I salute all you doctors who truly try to help those who suffer with chronic intractable pain disease.<br />
Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Rocktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Rocktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell,

Thanks for your kind words. I consider myself (first and foremost) a fellow human being, and (secondarily) a physician. The reason that I have some understanding for the shoes that chronic/acute sufferers of pain walk in has a lot to do with the fact that I myself have dealt with 28 years of chronic severe neck/head aches, have torn my left rotator cuff (4-6 months of excruciating pain) as well as my right rotator cuff (4-6 weeks of the same). In addition to any analgesia that (I pray) you folks may be fortunate enough to be allowed experience - make sure to (gently, but diligently) &quot;keep moving&quot; (exercise) such infirmities! The foregoing statement (in deference to all you &quot;concerned professionals&quot; out there) is &quot;human&quot; - and not &quot;medical&quot; - advice ...

Being (roughly) your age, I have experienced decades of life as a stranger (being a civil libertarian and a fiscal socialist) in a strange land (of fiscal libertarianism and moral totalitarianism). Integrity is a hard term to define per se - however, we all can point to examples of its absence.

Make no mistake - it is important that folks who use opiates/opioids on a regular basis understand that they are a helpful adjunct to the essential practices of remaining active (in terms of regular exercise), as well as maintaining a healthy diet, in realizing and maintaining &quot;wellness&quot; where it comes to chronic pain conditions. There is no easy way to negotiate these waters, and no panacea in a pill that exempts one from these realities.

The problem (as I see it) is that out of the millions of sufferers of chronic pain conditions in our society, there are many competent adults who recognize and act upon the above mentioned realities - and are not imbeciles in need of constant paternalistic supervision by moral nannies (themselves often obsessed with maintaining a profitable &quot;dependence&quot; in its own right based upon relegating patients to a childlike status in order to sustain their own pre-eminence as &quot;deciders&quot; and &quot;arbitrators&quot; of human behavior).

I believe that the core problem surrounding opiate/opioid medications arises not out of pharmacological realities, but (instead) out of our society&#039;s unique and misplaced obsessions with a judeo-christian &quot;anti-pleasure&quot; ethic that has arisen in last century (due to its privileged and entitled proponents in positions of social power, and their self-serving desired control over the minds of others), thus malignantly permeating and (falsely) distorting society&#039;s discussions of what it means to be a citizen in a free and open society.

We (some, anyway) seem obsessed with (not only) owning the bodies of others, but also with the absurd and immoral premise of owning the *minds* of others. This is (in no uncertain terms) a &quot;tyranny&quot;, and (one finds) is always promulgated by those who stand to profit (whether by financial or moralistic means) from standing in the dubious role of paternalistic magistrate over the free will and choices of competent adults.

Your use of the term &quot;opiophobic&quot; indicates that you may be familiar with the thoughts of the person who coined that phrase (Thomas Szsasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, SUNY), who (also) sagely stated, &quot;How can such paternalism on the part of the rulers lead to anything but infantilism on the part of the ruled?&quot;.

Szasz (in his 1985 book entitled, &quot;Ceremonial Chemistry: The Ritual Persecution of Drugs, Addicts, and Pushers&quot;) draws a cogent and telling analogy between the age-old &quot;theocratic state&quot; and what he terms as the modern &quot;theraputic state&quot;. These parallels are as humorous as they are tragic - but do indeed spell-out what I have come to believe is the *real* story that drives today&#039;s imbroglio:

Dominant Ideology: Religious/Christian = Scientific/Medical

Dominant Value: Grace = Health

Interpreters, justifiers, prescribers and proscribers of conduct and their ostensible aims:

Priests = Physicians
Clerics = Clinicians
Nuns = Nurses
Saving souls = Curing bodies and minds.
Heroes: Saints = Heroic healers
Heretics: Witches = Quacks

Ceremonies and Rituals:
Confession, penance = Psychotherapy
Holy Orders = MD degree.
Extreme Unction = Medical death certification.

Panaceas:
Faith = Scientific knowledge.
Hope = Scientific research.
Charity = Compulsory treatment.
Holy Water = Theraputic drugs.

Pana-pathogens:
Satan = Christian Scientists and others who defy the authority of medicine.
Blasphemy = Rejection of medical science and medical treatment.
Witch&#039;s Brew = &quot;Dangerous Drugs&quot;.

Prohibited Items:
The Bible in the &quot;vulgar&quot; tongue = Drugs in the free market.
&quot;Dangerous Books&quot; = &quot;Dangerous Drugs&quot;.

Unprofessional Conduct:
Selling too many indulgences = Writing too many prescriptions for &quot;dangerous drugs&quot;.
Questioning the infallibility of the Mother Church = Questioning the infallibility of modern medicine.

Agency of Social Sanction:
The Inquisition = Institutional psychiatry.

Aim of Social Sanction:
Forced religious conversion = Forced psychiatric personality change.

Thus, the &quot;great unwashed&quot; stand trembling and helpless in the &quot;Cathedral of Drug Avoidance&quot;, praying that (self-declared) &quot;Doctors of the Universe&quot; will take pity on their humble souls as mere commoners, and dribble a few &quot;communal biscuits&quot; upon the &quot;hoi polloi&quot; in order to absolve them of their &quot;sinful sufferings&quot; for a few brief hours - until the pay-for-service &quot;cathedral&quot; opens once again for business in the morning.

In the Reformation, Martin Luther attacked the dominant Church of the day for just that - selling &quot;indulgences&quot; (charging monies in order to absolve them of their sins, and ensure their entry into &quot;heaven&quot;). This was, indeed, the practice and function of the (rhetorical) &quot;Whore of Babylon&quot; ... 

Feel free to draw your own parallels, but do not expect much more than outrage and despite from the &quot;Church of Drug Avoidance&quot; who decry that their service to the &quot;King&quot; (the almighty dollar, and/or their misplaced delusions of grandeur) exists for the sole (and sanctimonious) purpose of &quot;saving you from yourself&quot;.

For those who might ascribe to concepts of &quot;original sin&quot; (that humankind is, from the get-go, flawed and sinful, and in need of supervision from on-high) - consider that the &quot;high priests&quot; of the &quot;cult of drug avoidance&quot; are but *themselves* human (and perhaps in need of a bit of humbling from above, themselves).

Note: Don&#039;t expect much more than (what they themselves term as) &quot;a state of denial&quot; from the &quot;theraputic priesthood&quot; should you confront &quot;Simplicio&quot; with the premise that the solar system does not, in fact, revolve around such mere humans as themselves. They broke Galileo&#039;s spirit and imprisoned him for life for the high crime of using his head. In some respects (where it comes to the &quot;cathedral of science&quot; in the &quot;age of reason&quot;) little has really changed where it comes to human nature. The faces have changed, but the hymns remain the same ...

Heretically Yours,  DR ... ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell,</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words. I consider myself (first and foremost) a fellow human being, and (secondarily) a physician. The reason that I have some understanding for the shoes that chronic/acute sufferers of pain walk in has a lot to do with the fact that I myself have dealt with 28 years of chronic severe neck/head aches, have torn my left rotator cuff (4-6 months of excruciating pain) as well as my right rotator cuff (4-6 weeks of the same). In addition to any analgesia that (I pray) you folks may be fortunate enough to be allowed experience &#8211; make sure to (gently, but diligently) &#8220;keep moving&#8221; (exercise) such infirmities! The foregoing statement (in deference to all you &#8220;concerned professionals&#8221; out there) is &#8220;human&#8221; &#8211; and not &#8220;medical&#8221; &#8211; advice &#8230;</p>
<p>Being (roughly) your age, I have experienced decades of life as a stranger (being a civil libertarian and a fiscal socialist) in a strange land (of fiscal libertarianism and moral totalitarianism). Integrity is a hard term to define per se &#8211; however, we all can point to examples of its absence.</p>
<p>Make no mistake &#8211; it is important that folks who use opiates/opioids on a regular basis understand that they are a helpful adjunct to the essential practices of remaining active (in terms of regular exercise), as well as maintaining a healthy diet, in realizing and maintaining &#8220;wellness&#8221; where it comes to chronic pain conditions. There is no easy way to negotiate these waters, and no panacea in a pill that exempts one from these realities.</p>
<p>The problem (as I see it) is that out of the millions of sufferers of chronic pain conditions in our society, there are many competent adults who recognize and act upon the above mentioned realities &#8211; and are not imbeciles in need of constant paternalistic supervision by moral nannies (themselves often obsessed with maintaining a profitable &#8220;dependence&#8221; in its own right based upon relegating patients to a childlike status in order to sustain their own pre-eminence as &#8220;deciders&#8221; and &#8220;arbitrators&#8221; of human behavior).</p>
<p>I believe that the core problem surrounding opiate/opioid medications arises not out of pharmacological realities, but (instead) out of our society&#8217;s unique and misplaced obsessions with a judeo-christian &#8220;anti-pleasure&#8221; ethic that has arisen in last century (due to its privileged and entitled proponents in positions of social power, and their self-serving desired control over the minds of others), thus malignantly permeating and (falsely) distorting society&#8217;s discussions of what it means to be a citizen in a free and open society.</p>
<p>We (some, anyway) seem obsessed with (not only) owning the bodies of others, but also with the absurd and immoral premise of owning the *minds* of others. This is (in no uncertain terms) a &#8220;tyranny&#8221;, and (one finds) is always promulgated by those who stand to profit (whether by financial or moralistic means) from standing in the dubious role of paternalistic magistrate over the free will and choices of competent adults.</p>
<p>Your use of the term &#8220;opiophobic&#8221; indicates that you may be familiar with the thoughts of the person who coined that phrase (Thomas Szsasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, SUNY), who (also) sagely stated, &#8220;How can such paternalism on the part of the rulers lead to anything but infantilism on the part of the ruled?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Szasz (in his 1985 book entitled, &#8220;Ceremonial Chemistry: The Ritual Persecution of Drugs, Addicts, and Pushers&#8221;) draws a cogent and telling analogy between the age-old &#8220;theocratic state&#8221; and what he terms as the modern &#8220;theraputic state&#8221;. These parallels are as humorous as they are tragic &#8211; but do indeed spell-out what I have come to believe is the *real* story that drives today&#8217;s imbroglio:</p>
<p>Dominant Ideology: Religious/Christian = Scientific/Medical</p>
<p>Dominant Value: Grace = Health</p>
<p>Interpreters, justifiers, prescribers and proscribers of conduct and their ostensible aims:</p>
<p>Priests = Physicians<br />
Clerics = Clinicians<br />
Nuns = Nurses<br />
Saving souls = Curing bodies and minds.<br />
Heroes: Saints = Heroic healers<br />
Heretics: Witches = Quacks</p>
<p>Ceremonies and Rituals:<br />
Confession, penance = Psychotherapy<br />
Holy Orders = MD degree.<br />
Extreme Unction = Medical death certification.</p>
<p>Panaceas:<br />
Faith = Scientific knowledge.<br />
Hope = Scientific research.<br />
Charity = Compulsory treatment.<br />
Holy Water = Theraputic drugs.</p>
<p>Pana-pathogens:<br />
Satan = Christian Scientists and others who defy the authority of medicine.<br />
Blasphemy = Rejection of medical science and medical treatment.<br />
Witch&#8217;s Brew = &#8220;Dangerous Drugs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Prohibited Items:<br />
The Bible in the &#8220;vulgar&#8221; tongue = Drugs in the free market.<br />
&#8220;Dangerous Books&#8221; = &#8220;Dangerous Drugs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unprofessional Conduct:<br />
Selling too many indulgences = Writing too many prescriptions for &#8220;dangerous drugs&#8221;.<br />
Questioning the infallibility of the Mother Church = Questioning the infallibility of modern medicine.</p>
<p>Agency of Social Sanction:<br />
The Inquisition = Institutional psychiatry.</p>
<p>Aim of Social Sanction:<br />
Forced religious conversion = Forced psychiatric personality change.</p>
<p>Thus, the &#8220;great unwashed&#8221; stand trembling and helpless in the &#8220;Cathedral of Drug Avoidance&#8221;, praying that (self-declared) &#8220;Doctors of the Universe&#8221; will take pity on their humble souls as mere commoners, and dribble a few &#8220;communal biscuits&#8221; upon the &#8220;hoi polloi&#8221; in order to absolve them of their &#8220;sinful sufferings&#8221; for a few brief hours &#8211; until the pay-for-service &#8220;cathedral&#8221; opens once again for business in the morning.</p>
<p>In the Reformation, Martin Luther attacked the dominant Church of the day for just that &#8211; selling &#8220;indulgences&#8221; (charging monies in order to absolve them of their sins, and ensure their entry into &#8220;heaven&#8221;). This was, indeed, the practice and function of the (rhetorical) &#8220;Whore of Babylon&#8221; &#8230; </p>
<p>Feel free to draw your own parallels, but do not expect much more than outrage and despite from the &#8220;Church of Drug Avoidance&#8221; who decry that their service to the &#8220;King&#8221; (the almighty dollar, and/or their misplaced delusions of grandeur) exists for the sole (and sanctimonious) purpose of &#8220;saving you from yourself&#8221;.</p>
<p>For those who might ascribe to concepts of &#8220;original sin&#8221; (that humankind is, from the get-go, flawed and sinful, and in need of supervision from on-high) &#8211; consider that the &#8220;high priests&#8221; of the &#8220;cult of drug avoidance&#8221; are but *themselves* human (and perhaps in need of a bit of humbling from above, themselves).</p>
<p>Note: Don&#8217;t expect much more than (what they themselves term as) &#8220;a state of denial&#8221; from the &#8220;theraputic priesthood&#8221; should you confront &#8220;Simplicio&#8221; with the premise that the solar system does not, in fact, revolve around such mere humans as themselves. They broke Galileo&#8217;s spirit and imprisoned him for life for the high crime of using his head. In some respects (where it comes to the &#8220;cathedral of science&#8221; in the &#8220;age of reason&#8221;) little has really changed where it comes to human nature. The faces have changed, but the hymns remain the same &#8230;</p>
<p>Heretically Yours,  DR &#8230; <img src='http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: LastoftheZucchiniFlowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>LastoftheZucchiniFlowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though a bit baffled by the furore generated from a FEW  by my comments on the ER being the WRONG place to obtain narcotics - I nevertheless stand by my words.  Not only that, I&#039;ll reiterate them a final time since perhaps I was not clear in my initial remarks (as they DID contain anecdotal commentary).  This time  I am speaking ONLY as a provider:
 1- All patient pain should be alleviated.
 2- All tools in our the therapeutic armamentarium should be brought to bear in this effort.
 3-THE ER IS NOT THE PLACE to go to get REFILLS for your CHRONIC PAIN medicines.
 4- My answer to &#039;doctor&#039; rocktor -  it is YOU, sir, who ought to have considered a career as a writer of fiction.  
 And now -   back to the ER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though a bit baffled by the furore generated from a FEW  by my comments on the ER being the WRONG place to obtain narcotics &#8211; I nevertheless stand by my words.  Not only that, I&#8217;ll reiterate them a final time since perhaps I was not clear in my initial remarks (as they DID contain anecdotal commentary).  This time  I am speaking ONLY as a provider:<br />
 1- All patient pain should be alleviated.<br />
 2- All tools in our the therapeutic armamentarium should be brought to bear in this effort.<br />
 3-THE ER IS NOT THE PLACE to go to get REFILLS for your CHRONIC PAIN medicines.<br />
 4- My answer to &#8216;doctor&#8217; rocktor &#8211;  it is YOU, sir, who ought to have considered a career as a writer of fiction.<br />
 And now &#8211;   back to the ER.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctor Rocktor,
I am not a doctor but have been a chronic pain survivor for 35 years. I will have to say you put into words much more graciously than I what needed to be said to&quot; LOTZF &quot;. I have had over 40 to 50 doctors between the Veterans Administration who I must say is nothing short of a first aid station touted as one of the most technologically advanced medical facilities in the country is all bogus BS just like the politicians pump out. I will have more to say on this mater later but have to take my wife to what I hope is an understanding doctor due to a tear close to her rotator cup.
But in the mean time Dr. Rocktor I can only hope that if I ever have to find a new doctor because this one goes Opiophobic on me I can find one as understanding as you see to be. God Bless
Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor Rocktor,<br />
I am not a doctor but have been a chronic pain survivor for 35 years. I will have to say you put into words much more graciously than I what needed to be said to&#8221; LOTZF &#8220;. I have had over 40 to 50 doctors between the Veterans Administration who I must say is nothing short of a first aid station touted as one of the most technologically advanced medical facilities in the country is all bogus BS just like the politicians pump out. I will have more to say on this mater later but have to take my wife to what I hope is an understanding doctor due to a tear close to her rotator cup.<br />
But in the mean time Dr. Rocktor I can only hope that if I ever have to find a new doctor because this one goes Opiophobic on me I can find one as understanding as you see to be. God Bless<br />
Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Rocktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Rocktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE CATHEDRAL OF DRUG AVOIDANCE -
A CASE STUDY IN CONVOLUTED REASONING

My previous post stated that, &quot;The (rhetorical) &#039;shoes&#039; that patients suffering (acute, and especially, chronic) pain stand in are quite different from those worn by physicians ...&quot;

Several statements made by &quot;LastoftheZucchiniFlowers&quot; (hereafter LOTZF) unfortunately reflect what I believe are patently unreasonable opinions combined with a troublesome sense of an imagined superhuman superiority that exists all too widely in the medical profession - and one that has served to engender and promote the public perception of arrogance, entitlement, and indifference in its members towards the very patients who pay for their services.

Such attitudes do little to counter Thomas Szasz&#039;s statement that, &quot;The War on Drugs is a moral crusade wearing a medical mask.&quot;, as they are socio-politically strategic, and are not grounded in known pharmacological facts surrounding opiate/opioid medications for analgesia.

LOTZF: &quot;When in training and studying the mysterious phenomena we call ‘pain’ I recall being taught the following maxim: Pain is what the patient says it is. This predates the 1-10 scale but still holds promise for the provider to comprehend what the pt. is trying to say.&quot;

DR: OK. That sounds like a reasonably humble thought.

LOTZF: &quot;I maintain that the ED is NOT the place for those with chronic pain to secure medication.&quot;

DR: So, LOTZF, who made you King (or Queen)? It&#039;s nice that your &quot;loved one&quot; is prescribed 90-day supplies of oxycodone in the amount of 20mg per day in order to address their pain. You seem to approve in the case of your own personal relative ...

LOTZF: &quot;... He NEVER needs to visit the ER ...&quot;

DR: That&#039;s nice (but entirely anecdotal).

LOTZF: &quot;... because his chronic condition, like all other chronic conditions, is managed by a physician who knows him long term ... &quot;

DR: Similarly anecdotal. Not necessarily at all the case for many members of society. What causes you to assume that the rest of the world functions in a model that you construct relating to one particular person&#039;s situation?

LOTZF: &quot;... and knows he is NOT a drug seeker ...&quot;

DR: I think that I can (almost) hear the organ-music ...

LOTZF: &quot;... but rather a patient suffering chronic pain who needs and thankfully recieves proper treatment from a caring, knowledgeable physician/surgeon.&quot;

DR: Well, its great that your &quot;loved one&quot; has managed to make such arrangements. Why does the rest of the world deserve less understanding, compassion, and care from the medical profession in general (including in the ER)?

LOTZF: &quot;... Going to the ER for chronic pain management is unwise and a poor use of ER services.&quot;

DR: I would wager that you would not yourself be so full of judgment and certainty were you a similarly situated ER patient in pain yourself. Why would you treat other human beings differently than you yourself would (likely) desire to be treated? Ever imagined life in *their* shoes? ... Ever?

LOTZF: &quot;... these ‘breakthrough’ events should be discussed with and managed by your pain specialist so that WHEN the weekend comes and he is ‘not in his office’ and the worse case scenario occurs, you are covered.&quot;

DR: That makes nice academic textbook material - assuming that the patient is a seer who divines the future - and who has a physician who buys in (rather than raises a jaundiced eyebrow) to such prophecies of future events. Sort sounds like &quot;DRUG-SEEKER&quot; talk, would not you (yourself) say? ... 

LOTZF: &quot;... Patients have a responsibility to anticipate their needs, since we know ourselves best and to make preparations for our needs.&quot;

DR: Now we are *really* pushing the envelope of dis-credibility. Sounds like a world-class projection of blame for patients not being seers. Do *you* divine the future, yourself, LOTZF? If so, I guess you would know what the patient will or will not need in future, as well ...

LOTZF: &quot;... The disposition and empathy of ED are a direct reflection of misuse of their workplace.&quot;

DR: Presumably a justification for a high degree of suspicion, condescension, and despite toward the patient on the part of the medical profession. This is the classic pathology of the mindset: &quot;blame the patient - and charge them a bundle anyway!&quot;. Such gushing empathy gives a lot of credibility to statements such as, &quot;It’s amazing, the self absorption here.&quot; (-Paynehertz).

LOTZF: &quot;... And do not misunderstand, I am in full agreement that people in pain must have their pain alleviated - just don’t expect the ER doc on duty to be your patient when you show up there with your saga.&quot; ...

DR: What? This is like saying that ER physicians are beholden to a different oath - simply because they work in a complicated and stressful environment. Totally bogus.

The idea that a client would expect the ER doc to be *their* patient is a strange convolution that is emblematic of the veracity of my previously posted statement - that the prospect of patients noting what does, and what does not, address their (subjectively perceived, and thus non-reducible) experiences of pain, and correspondingly communicating their experience and wishes to the physician, presents a troubling threat to the physician’s sense of primacy in decision-making. This is about power, privilege, and self-absorption within the medical profession - and *not* about the patients (ostensibly) served.

LOTZF: &quot;... the ER doc is NOT your doctor ...&quot;

DR: A patently strategic &quot;dodge&quot; - plain and simple. If ER doctors are not physicians, what are they? Inquisitors and torturers? If so, why does the patient pay far in excess of the amounts charged by other physicians? For suspicion, condescension, and indifference? Please.

LOTZF (referring to a &quot;regular&quot; physician that the patient either may or may not even have): &quot;... He/She will help you - trust me.&quot;

DR: This is not only a &quot;dodge&quot;, but is also a far-stretch (considering the attitudinal tone of your statements in general). How could/would you know these things? Insurance adjusters use the same tactics - but, do we believe them? Why should we believe *you*?

LOTZF: &quot;... My uncle (mentioned earlier) has HIS pain doc’s home # but in three years he has NEVER called him at home. He says something about just knowing that he CAN is relief enough.&quot;

DR: That&#039;s nice, but (again) entirely anecdotal. Do your standards for &quot;proper patient behavior&quot; when experiencing pain *all* arise out of your uncle&#039;s personal situation and experiences? For the sake of society, I do hope not ...

LOTZF: &quot;... Nice thought and good luck to you in your search for freedom from pain. Whether it be physical and/or psychic pain matters not - both types will sap life’s joy leaving hopelessness in its wake.&quot;

DR: Your &quot;cruel compassion&quot; strikes me as right out of a Franz Kafka novel. Ever considered a profession as a writer of fiction? It looks like you (already) have made a good start.

LOTZF: &quot;... Whatever you do, DON’T take so much medication that you stop breathing. Sounds silly but it happened EVERY NIGHT across America ...&quot;

DR: Sagely advice indeed (the bit about not killing oneself via overdose due to respiratory depression). Since it is clearly the tabooed opiates/opioids that bring forth the greatest swells of organ music and choir - why not note that the &quot;theraputic index&quot; (Lethal Dose / Effective Dose) of these substances used alone is *very high*, and safer than many, many other medications (including NSAIDs and alcohol, that any adult can purchase in any amount)!

LOTZF: &quot;... NO DECENT PHYSICIAN wants to be mixed up in the drug overdose death of a patient they don’t really KNOW! ...&quot;...

DR: Or (I presume), the death of patients that they *do* really know! I do not advocate putting loaded guns in the hands of suicidal fools. But I think that your rhetoric appears as more strategic in serving your own personal interests and net financial worth first, with the well-being of patients taking (at best) the last seat in the back of a (rhetorical) &quot;bus&quot; full of &quot;bozos&quot; (except, of course, you).

Your polemics may dove-tail nicely with the &quot;flavor of the day&quot; hysterics surrounding doctors within our society scrambling to cover their own bureaucratic derrieres, have a profitable career, and a very nice life, etc., but - the pharmacological facts surrounding opiate/opioid medications do not support your claims, and more and more competent adults in our society see through the sermons and extreme unctions so commonly proferred by yourself and other physicians within our profession as a justification for denying patients adequate relief from pain.

Instead, these human beings see through the moral pontifications, gesticulations, and professional strategery to the unfettered &quot;me-ism&quot; that commonly drives such doctrines of the avoidance of these relatively non-toxic medications in favor of (often more toxic, and, interestingly, significantly more profitable) treatment regimens. Just who, then, are the *real* charlatans here?

The &quot;DRUG-SEEKERS&quot;, or
the &quot;DRUG-WITHOLDERS&quot; ...?

It&#039;s becoming rather hard to tell in these darkening ages ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE CATHEDRAL OF DRUG AVOIDANCE -<br />
A CASE STUDY IN CONVOLUTED REASONING</p>
<p>My previous post stated that, &#8220;The (rhetorical) &#8217;shoes&#8217; that patients suffering (acute, and especially, chronic) pain stand in are quite different from those worn by physicians &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Several statements made by &#8220;LastoftheZucchiniFlowers&#8221; (hereafter LOTZF) unfortunately reflect what I believe are patently unreasonable opinions combined with a troublesome sense of an imagined superhuman superiority that exists all too widely in the medical profession &#8211; and one that has served to engender and promote the public perception of arrogance, entitlement, and indifference in its members towards the very patients who pay for their services.</p>
<p>Such attitudes do little to counter Thomas Szasz&#8217;s statement that, &#8220;The War on Drugs is a moral crusade wearing a medical mask.&#8221;, as they are socio-politically strategic, and are not grounded in known pharmacological facts surrounding opiate/opioid medications for analgesia.</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;When in training and studying the mysterious phenomena we call ‘pain’ I recall being taught the following maxim: Pain is what the patient says it is. This predates the 1-10 scale but still holds promise for the provider to comprehend what the pt. is trying to say.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: OK. That sounds like a reasonably humble thought.</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;I maintain that the ED is NOT the place for those with chronic pain to secure medication.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: So, LOTZF, who made you King (or Queen)? It&#8217;s nice that your &#8220;loved one&#8221; is prescribed 90-day supplies of oxycodone in the amount of 20mg per day in order to address their pain. You seem to approve in the case of your own personal relative &#8230;</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; He NEVER needs to visit the ER &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: That&#8217;s nice (but entirely anecdotal).</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; because his chronic condition, like all other chronic conditions, is managed by a physician who knows him long term &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Similarly anecdotal. Not necessarily at all the case for many members of society. What causes you to assume that the rest of the world functions in a model that you construct relating to one particular person&#8217;s situation?</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; and knows he is NOT a drug seeker &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: I think that I can (almost) hear the organ-music &#8230;</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; but rather a patient suffering chronic pain who needs and thankfully recieves proper treatment from a caring, knowledgeable physician/surgeon.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Well, its great that your &#8220;loved one&#8221; has managed to make such arrangements. Why does the rest of the world deserve less understanding, compassion, and care from the medical profession in general (including in the ER)?</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; Going to the ER for chronic pain management is unwise and a poor use of ER services.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: I would wager that you would not yourself be so full of judgment and certainty were you a similarly situated ER patient in pain yourself. Why would you treat other human beings differently than you yourself would (likely) desire to be treated? Ever imagined life in *their* shoes? &#8230; Ever?</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; these ‘breakthrough’ events should be discussed with and managed by your pain specialist so that WHEN the weekend comes and he is ‘not in his office’ and the worse case scenario occurs, you are covered.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: That makes nice academic textbook material &#8211; assuming that the patient is a seer who divines the future &#8211; and who has a physician who buys in (rather than raises a jaundiced eyebrow) to such prophecies of future events. Sort sounds like &#8220;DRUG-SEEKER&#8221; talk, would not you (yourself) say? &#8230; </p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; Patients have a responsibility to anticipate their needs, since we know ourselves best and to make preparations for our needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Now we are *really* pushing the envelope of dis-credibility. Sounds like a world-class projection of blame for patients not being seers. Do *you* divine the future, yourself, LOTZF? If so, I guess you would know what the patient will or will not need in future, as well &#8230;</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; The disposition and empathy of ED are a direct reflection of misuse of their workplace.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Presumably a justification for a high degree of suspicion, condescension, and despite toward the patient on the part of the medical profession. This is the classic pathology of the mindset: &#8220;blame the patient &#8211; and charge them a bundle anyway!&#8221;. Such gushing empathy gives a lot of credibility to statements such as, &#8220;It’s amazing, the self absorption here.&#8221; (-Paynehertz).</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; And do not misunderstand, I am in full agreement that people in pain must have their pain alleviated &#8211; just don’t expect the ER doc on duty to be your patient when you show up there with your saga.&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>DR: What? This is like saying that ER physicians are beholden to a different oath &#8211; simply because they work in a complicated and stressful environment. Totally bogus.</p>
<p>The idea that a client would expect the ER doc to be *their* patient is a strange convolution that is emblematic of the veracity of my previously posted statement &#8211; that the prospect of patients noting what does, and what does not, address their (subjectively perceived, and thus non-reducible) experiences of pain, and correspondingly communicating their experience and wishes to the physician, presents a troubling threat to the physician’s sense of primacy in decision-making. This is about power, privilege, and self-absorption within the medical profession &#8211; and *not* about the patients (ostensibly) served.</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; the ER doc is NOT your doctor &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: A patently strategic &#8220;dodge&#8221; &#8211; plain and simple. If ER doctors are not physicians, what are they? Inquisitors and torturers? If so, why does the patient pay far in excess of the amounts charged by other physicians? For suspicion, condescension, and indifference? Please.</p>
<p>LOTZF (referring to a &#8220;regular&#8221; physician that the patient either may or may not even have): &#8220;&#8230; He/She will help you &#8211; trust me.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: This is not only a &#8220;dodge&#8221;, but is also a far-stretch (considering the attitudinal tone of your statements in general). How could/would you know these things? Insurance adjusters use the same tactics &#8211; but, do we believe them? Why should we believe *you*?</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; My uncle (mentioned earlier) has HIS pain doc’s home # but in three years he has NEVER called him at home. He says something about just knowing that he CAN is relief enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: That&#8217;s nice, but (again) entirely anecdotal. Do your standards for &#8220;proper patient behavior&#8221; when experiencing pain *all* arise out of your uncle&#8217;s personal situation and experiences? For the sake of society, I do hope not &#8230;</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; Nice thought and good luck to you in your search for freedom from pain. Whether it be physical and/or psychic pain matters not &#8211; both types will sap life’s joy leaving hopelessness in its wake.&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Your &#8220;cruel compassion&#8221; strikes me as right out of a Franz Kafka novel. Ever considered a profession as a writer of fiction? It looks like you (already) have made a good start.</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; Whatever you do, DON’T take so much medication that you stop breathing. Sounds silly but it happened EVERY NIGHT across America &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DR: Sagely advice indeed (the bit about not killing oneself via overdose due to respiratory depression). Since it is clearly the tabooed opiates/opioids that bring forth the greatest swells of organ music and choir &#8211; why not note that the &#8220;theraputic index&#8221; (Lethal Dose / Effective Dose) of these substances used alone is *very high*, and safer than many, many other medications (including NSAIDs and alcohol, that any adult can purchase in any amount)!</p>
<p>LOTZF: &#8220;&#8230; NO DECENT PHYSICIAN wants to be mixed up in the drug overdose death of a patient they don’t really KNOW! &#8230;&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>DR: Or (I presume), the death of patients that they *do* really know! I do not advocate putting loaded guns in the hands of suicidal fools. But I think that your rhetoric appears as more strategic in serving your own personal interests and net financial worth first, with the well-being of patients taking (at best) the last seat in the back of a (rhetorical) &#8220;bus&#8221; full of &#8220;bozos&#8221; (except, of course, you).</p>
<p>Your polemics may dove-tail nicely with the &#8220;flavor of the day&#8221; hysterics surrounding doctors within our society scrambling to cover their own bureaucratic derrieres, have a profitable career, and a very nice life, etc., but &#8211; the pharmacological facts surrounding opiate/opioid medications do not support your claims, and more and more competent adults in our society see through the sermons and extreme unctions so commonly proferred by yourself and other physicians within our profession as a justification for denying patients adequate relief from pain.</p>
<p>Instead, these human beings see through the moral pontifications, gesticulations, and professional strategery to the unfettered &#8220;me-ism&#8221; that commonly drives such doctrines of the avoidance of these relatively non-toxic medications in favor of (often more toxic, and, interestingly, significantly more profitable) treatment regimens. Just who, then, are the *real* charlatans here?</p>
<p>The &#8220;DRUG-SEEKERS&#8221;, or<br />
the &#8220;DRUG-WITHOLDERS&#8221; &#8230;?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s becoming rather hard to tell in these darkening ages &#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: MyFriendsKeeper</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/07/are-doctors-pressured-to-prescribe-opiate-drugs.html/comment-page-1#comment-108724</link>
		<dc:creator>MyFriendsKeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let me tell ya something; here I am--a 66 year young full-time employed, law abiding great-grandmother of one!!  And I am damned mad, angry, frustrated and, oh, how about pissed off?!  I have a very dear best friend.  My best friend is a young man 21 years my junior.  In 1995 while mowing his mother&#039;s property, he got down from the tractor to move something out of his way and the tractor rolled over on him, completely disintegrating in many pieces, some never to be retrieved, his L-4 and L-5, so they are completely missing.  Due to this injury, in one years&#039; time, he was told that he could never go back to work (as a Court Reporter which he loved), he would never walk and he had to have surgery to remove the splintered vertebra, some too close to vital organs to be removed.  He owned his own business with his mother and built his own home at the age of 24, after selling the first home he bought at age 18.  He bought that home in order to rent it out to four other college students so that he could pay for his college education.  When his doctor told him that he would never work again, his wife of 6 years left him taking their two year old daughter, his only child.  A year later, my friend had to sell his camps on the Gulf, his boats, his Porches, his rifles, he was an avid hunter and fisherman.  As time went on, he was diagnosed by his doctor with extreme GAD and was put on every anxiety med there is until he was able to find Ativan which made him only feel &quot;normal&quot; again...where his mind wasn&#039;t running with so many life changes.  He went to Pain Management for two years where they twisted and poked and prodded him as he screamed in sheer agony.  His doctor finally put a stop order on all physical therapy; this young man just could not take it nor would it make him better.  Pain management put him on MORPHINE!  He couldn&#039;t think, concentrate, make decisions; he hated it!!  After his gastroenterologist took over his care for the damage done to his intestines, he tried every pain med available until Cephadyn finally helped without making him &quot;out of it&quot;, still he suffered pain.  I believe that is balbubital with acetominaphen and caffeine or codeine, not sure.  He was also on Soma for the nerve damage in his legs.  He has a hernia, an enlarged prostate, a very enlarged colon filled with polyps, too many to remove without a cholostectemy (?).  This is a FORTY-FIVE year old man whose doctor retired the day before my friends next appointment with him...he cut down all of his meds to 1/6 of his daily dosage in order to survive...barely.  That was almost a year ago this August.  I flew down to where he lives as he couldn&#039;t get a new doctor without going through horrible anxiety.  When the day came for the doctor&#039;s appointment, she said she could not give him those meds because in January 2009, Medicaid changed the law that no person who had not been in the same doctor&#039;s care for a minimum of two years could get any type of barbituate.  Like it was his fault that his doctor retired due to health reasons without any notification beforehand.  This man is in excruciating pain on a daily basis.  It feels as if meat is being torn from his bones, he tells me.  I got him an appointment with a new gastro due to his diahrrea which is instant after every meal.  He has gone from a 6&#039; tall man weighing 180-185 to the same height weighing 125 lbs.!!  And the government has tied his hands to live a somewhat pain-free life...even with meds, he will be in pain however not to this degree.  He has talked a lot about dying, wanting to die.  Two years ago, his brother killed himself after a divorce and his mother went down with Pick&#039;s Disease and she was his sole support.  He needed one more quarter to get more disability but he has to live on only $695/month!!!!  When he went to the new gastro, the first thing the man said to my friend, when he walked in the door, was &quot;if you&#039;re here for pain pills, you can leave right now!&quot;  Can you imagine how my friend felt?!  He was there for all of his problems...he taught himself how to walk after two years and then to drive, but he only has an old standard pick-up truck and when nerve damage in his legs are acting up, he can&#039;t even push in the clutch...and this high and mighty doctor has the nerve to offend this sweet, dear man.  I&#039;m trying all I can to get drugs from another country without a script for him....yes, illegally...you think I care??  No, I only care about getting help from a doctor with brains and a heart to help this precious man....yes, I AM PISSED OFF BIG TIME!!!  Thanks for letting me vent.  Pain Management...yeah, right!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me tell ya something; here I am&#8211;a 66 year young full-time employed, law abiding great-grandmother of one!!  And I am damned mad, angry, frustrated and, oh, how about pissed off?!  I have a very dear best friend.  My best friend is a young man 21 years my junior.  In 1995 while mowing his mother&#8217;s property, he got down from the tractor to move something out of his way and the tractor rolled over on him, completely disintegrating in many pieces, some never to be retrieved, his L-4 and L-5, so they are completely missing.  Due to this injury, in one years&#8217; time, he was told that he could never go back to work (as a Court Reporter which he loved), he would never walk and he had to have surgery to remove the splintered vertebra, some too close to vital organs to be removed.  He owned his own business with his mother and built his own home at the age of 24, after selling the first home he bought at age 18.  He bought that home in order to rent it out to four other college students so that he could pay for his college education.  When his doctor told him that he would never work again, his wife of 6 years left him taking their two year old daughter, his only child.  A year later, my friend had to sell his camps on the Gulf, his boats, his Porches, his rifles, he was an avid hunter and fisherman.  As time went on, he was diagnosed by his doctor with extreme GAD and was put on every anxiety med there is until he was able to find Ativan which made him only feel &#8220;normal&#8221; again&#8230;where his mind wasn&#8217;t running with so many life changes.  He went to Pain Management for two years where they twisted and poked and prodded him as he screamed in sheer agony.  His doctor finally put a stop order on all physical therapy; this young man just could not take it nor would it make him better.  Pain management put him on MORPHINE!  He couldn&#8217;t think, concentrate, make decisions; he hated it!!  After his gastroenterologist took over his care for the damage done to his intestines, he tried every pain med available until Cephadyn finally helped without making him &#8220;out of it&#8221;, still he suffered pain.  I believe that is balbubital with acetominaphen and caffeine or codeine, not sure.  He was also on Soma for the nerve damage in his legs.  He has a hernia, an enlarged prostate, a very enlarged colon filled with polyps, too many to remove without a cholostectemy (?).  This is a FORTY-FIVE year old man whose doctor retired the day before my friends next appointment with him&#8230;he cut down all of his meds to 1/6 of his daily dosage in order to survive&#8230;barely.  That was almost a year ago this August.  I flew down to where he lives as he couldn&#8217;t get a new doctor without going through horrible anxiety.  When the day came for the doctor&#8217;s appointment, she said she could not give him those meds because in January 2009, Medicaid changed the law that no person who had not been in the same doctor&#8217;s care for a minimum of two years could get any type of barbituate.  Like it was his fault that his doctor retired due to health reasons without any notification beforehand.  This man is in excruciating pain on a daily basis.  It feels as if meat is being torn from his bones, he tells me.  I got him an appointment with a new gastro due to his diahrrea which is instant after every meal.  He has gone from a 6&#8242; tall man weighing 180-185 to the same height weighing 125 lbs.!!  And the government has tied his hands to live a somewhat pain-free life&#8230;even with meds, he will be in pain however not to this degree.  He has talked a lot about dying, wanting to die.  Two years ago, his brother killed himself after a divorce and his mother went down with Pick&#8217;s Disease and she was his sole support.  He needed one more quarter to get more disability but he has to live on only $695/month!!!!  When he went to the new gastro, the first thing the man said to my friend, when he walked in the door, was &#8220;if you&#8217;re here for pain pills, you can leave right now!&#8221;  Can you imagine how my friend felt?!  He was there for all of his problems&#8230;he taught himself how to walk after two years and then to drive, but he only has an old standard pick-up truck and when nerve damage in his legs are acting up, he can&#8217;t even push in the clutch&#8230;and this high and mighty doctor has the nerve to offend this sweet, dear man.  I&#8217;m trying all I can to get drugs from another country without a script for him&#8230;.yes, illegally&#8230;you think I care??  No, I only care about getting help from a doctor with brains and a heart to help this precious man&#8230;.yes, I AM PISSED OFF BIG TIME!!!  Thanks for letting me vent.  Pain Management&#8230;yeah, right!!</p>
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		<title>By: glaxygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>glaxygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastof:
Wow- really, you don&#039;t seem to get what Russell was saying...you ARE right about needing to plan, BUT all the planning in the world doesn&#039;t account for every instance that arises...even those of us who do work closely with our doctors and managing our pain for a decade or more are struck by surprises- more than breakthrough pain, sometimes completely new twists in our battle. Even with every intention to plan on the part of the patient and their pain management team, there has to be a plan for people such as us in the ER- God knows we don&#039;t want to be there...</description>
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Wow- really, you don&#8217;t seem to get what Russell was saying&#8230;you ARE right about needing to plan, BUT all the planning in the world doesn&#8217;t account for every instance that arises&#8230;even those of us who do work closely with our doctors and managing our pain for a decade or more are struck by surprises- more than breakthrough pain, sometimes completely new twists in our battle. Even with every intention to plan on the part of the patient and their pain management team, there has to be a plan for people such as us in the ER- God knows we don&#8217;t want to be there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LastoftheZucchiniFlowers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell - these &#039;breakthrough&#039; events should be discussed with and managed by your pain specialist so that WHEN the weekend comes and he is &#039;not in his office&#039; and the worse case scenario occurs,  you are covered.  Patients have a responsibility to anticipate their needs, since we know ourselves best and to make preparations for our needs.  I don&#039;t blame ER docs for being none too sanguine vis a vis narc seekers because this is where they show up AND they get in the way of real emergenies.  So do a lot of other non-emergent ED patients.  The disposition and empathy of ED are a direct reflection of misuse of their workplace.  And do not misunderstand, I am in full agreement that people in pain must have their pain alleviated - just don&#039;t expect the ER doc on duty to be your  patient when you show up there with your saga.  He doesn&#039;t know you and does NOT want to start handing out RXs for scheduled meds to people who are ambulatory and appear hale and hearty.  I realize that some chronic pain pts fit this description, but Russell, the ER doc is NOT your doctor.  Please prepare for emergencies and know that when breakthrough occurs you will need to be prepared.  Chronic radiculopathy is a bear, I know, so take some well intentioned advice and stay out of the ER when it flares and preplan with your pain doc.  He/She will help you - trust me.  BUT DON&#039;T WAIT for when they are off duty because they don&#039;t really have pagers.  Remember, they&#039;re usually anesthesiologists with busy OR schedules as it is.  If you are lucky - and your pain specialist knows you well, he&#039;ll likely give you a phone # where he can be reached.  My uncle (mentioned earlier) has HIS pain doc&#039;s home # but in three years he has NEVER called him at home.  He says something about just knowing that he CAN is relief enough.  Nice thought and good luck to you in your search for freedom from pain. Whether it be physical and/or psychic pain matters not - both types will sap life&#039;s joy  leaving hopelessness in its wake.  Whatever you do, DON&#039;T take so much medication that you stop breathing.  Sounds silly but it happened EVERY NIGHT across America and NO DECENT PHYSICIAN wants to be mixed up in the drug overdose death of a patient they don&#039;t really KNOW!  So cut them some slack and get proper care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell &#8211; these &#8216;breakthrough&#8217; events should be discussed with and managed by your pain specialist so that WHEN the weekend comes and he is &#8216;not in his office&#8217; and the worse case scenario occurs,  you are covered.  Patients have a responsibility to anticipate their needs, since we know ourselves best and to make preparations for our needs.  I don&#8217;t blame ER docs for being none too sanguine vis a vis narc seekers because this is where they show up AND they get in the way of real emergenies.  So do a lot of other non-emergent ED patients.  The disposition and empathy of ED are a direct reflection of misuse of their workplace.  And do not misunderstand, I am in full agreement that people in pain must have their pain alleviated &#8211; just don&#8217;t expect the ER doc on duty to be your  patient when you show up there with your saga.  He doesn&#8217;t know you and does NOT want to start handing out RXs for scheduled meds to people who are ambulatory and appear hale and hearty.  I realize that some chronic pain pts fit this description, but Russell, the ER doc is NOT your doctor.  Please prepare for emergencies and know that when breakthrough occurs you will need to be prepared.  Chronic radiculopathy is a bear, I know, so take some well intentioned advice and stay out of the ER when it flares and preplan with your pain doc.  He/She will help you &#8211; trust me.  BUT DON&#8217;T WAIT for when they are off duty because they don&#8217;t really have pagers.  Remember, they&#8217;re usually anesthesiologists with busy OR schedules as it is.  If you are lucky &#8211; and your pain specialist knows you well, he&#8217;ll likely give you a phone # where he can be reached.  My uncle (mentioned earlier) has HIS pain doc&#8217;s home # but in three years he has NEVER called him at home.  He says something about just knowing that he CAN is relief enough.  Nice thought and good luck to you in your search for freedom from pain. Whether it be physical and/or psychic pain matters not &#8211; both types will sap life&#8217;s joy  leaving hopelessness in its wake.  Whatever you do, DON&#8217;T take so much medication that you stop breathing.  Sounds silly but it happened EVERY NIGHT across America and NO DECENT PHYSICIAN wants to be mixed up in the drug overdose death of a patient they don&#8217;t really KNOW!  So cut them some slack and get proper care.</p>
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