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	<title>Comments on: Patients die when doctors don&#8217;t talk to one another</title>
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		<title>By: richard donahue</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/06/patients-die-when-doctors-dont-talk-to-one-another.html/comment-page-1#comment-100973</link>
		<dc:creator>richard donahue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when patients die because doctors don&#039;t talk to each other then those doctors are supposed to be judged by the board of registration. if the patient&#039;s family is kept in the dark then the beat goes on and the quack who didn&#039;t specify the dose of a med or a colonoscopy prep leaving it to a pharmacist or a nurse only to have the patient die , well that doctor who doesn&#039;t communicate very well keeps up their killing until someone else communicates that this doctor shouldn&#039;t be practicing any where.i wonder how many get away with murder when their peers don&#039;t want to talk and the patients family doesn&#039;t ask the right questions. this might not happen in a large teaching hospital where there are many checks and balances but, in the smaller community hospitals i bet it happens more than is reported. the systems are already here but  fear and vested interest seem to keep this from happening. open the books, and, open the door and let the light in. then sweep the dirt out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when patients die because doctors don&#8217;t talk to each other then those doctors are supposed to be judged by the board of registration. if the patient&#8217;s family is kept in the dark then the beat goes on and the quack who didn&#8217;t specify the dose of a med or a colonoscopy prep leaving it to a pharmacist or a nurse only to have the patient die , well that doctor who doesn&#8217;t communicate very well keeps up their killing until someone else communicates that this doctor shouldn&#8217;t be practicing any where.i wonder how many get away with murder when their peers don&#8217;t want to talk and the patients family doesn&#8217;t ask the right questions. this might not happen in a large teaching hospital where there are many checks and balances but, in the smaller community hospitals i bet it happens more than is reported. the systems are already here but  fear and vested interest seem to keep this from happening. open the books, and, open the door and let the light in. then sweep the dirt out.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/06/patients-die-when-doctors-dont-talk-to-one-another.html/comment-page-1#comment-99315</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon:
No, they won&#039;t.  Physicians are about taking care of the patients they are seeing at the time.  Restructuring a system is not the job for individual clinicians.  A system that discourages communication is the problem.  Saying that &quot;docs are all selfish&quot; because we don&#039;t all work together is ignorant of human nature.  Docs are no more noble than anyone else; they are trying to do their job, but with limited time and resources (I am talking about primary care here, but most every doctor is quite busy) will give time to what is at hand.  

Tom:  HIPAA is not the discussion-ender any more than the FCC is of online banking.  Communication has to happen at a level that respects privacy.  That is not an impossible task; but it IS improbable when doctors have to lose money if they do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon:<br />
No, they won&#8217;t.  Physicians are about taking care of the patients they are seeing at the time.  Restructuring a system is not the job for individual clinicians.  A system that discourages communication is the problem.  Saying that &#8220;docs are all selfish&#8221; because we don&#8217;t all work together is ignorant of human nature.  Docs are no more noble than anyone else; they are trying to do their job, but with limited time and resources (I am talking about primary care here, but most every doctor is quite busy) will give time to what is at hand.  </p>
<p>Tom:  HIPAA is not the discussion-ender any more than the FCC is of online banking.  Communication has to happen at a level that respects privacy.  That is not an impossible task; but it IS improbable when doctors have to lose money if they do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One acronym: HIPAA.  Kind of a discussion ender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One acronym: HIPAA.  Kind of a discussion ender.</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>daedalus2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also true that patients die when patients don&#039;t communicate with their health care providers.  

In light of the earlier post about patients lying to their doctors because adverse information in their health records will cause denial of health insurance, or sanctions by legal authorities, don&#039;t those incentives need to be &quot;re-aligned&quot; too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also true that patients die when patients don&#8217;t communicate with their health care providers.  </p>
<p>In light of the earlier post about patients lying to their doctors because adverse information in their health records will cause denial of health insurance, or sanctions by legal authorities, don&#8217;t those incentives need to be &#8220;re-aligned&#8221; too?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Re-align the incentives, and remove the obstacles to open health communication. Not only encourage doctors to use well-designed digital systems, remove the inane privacy laws that impede collaborative sharing of health information, and provide the proper incentives for physicians to promote better communication with each other.&quot;

Apparently this should all be done on someone else&#039;s dime?  Physicians aren&#039;t going to do it on their own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Re-align the incentives, and remove the obstacles to open health communication. Not only encourage doctors to use well-designed digital systems, remove the inane privacy laws that impede collaborative sharing of health information, and provide the proper incentives for physicians to promote better communication with each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently this should all be done on someone else&#8217;s dime?  Physicians aren&#8217;t going to do it on their own?</p>
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		<title>By: Lorry Schoenly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorry Schoenly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point re: physician communication. Couple with this communication challenges at hand-off among care units and errors escalate. At correctional facilities, we struggled almost uniformly with the misinterpretation of HIPAA such that hospital personnel are unwilling to share treatment information to the recieving nurse in the correctional facility when inmates return from inpatient care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point re: physician communication. Couple with this communication challenges at hand-off among care units and errors escalate. At correctional facilities, we struggled almost uniformly with the misinterpretation of HIPAA such that hospital personnel are unwilling to share treatment information to the recieving nurse in the correctional facility when inmates return from inpatient care.</p>
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