Comments on: Rahul Parikh: Anti-vaccine ads, and how false advertising harms children http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dr. T.S.http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91143 Dr. T.S. Mon, 04 May 2009 00:55:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91143 I don't think AAPS is a particularly good source to cite. Particularly when the source cited is a review by the infamous Geier (http://www.casewatch.org/civil/geier.shtml) duo. I don’t think AAPS is a particularly good source to cite. Particularly when the source cited is a review by the infamous Geier (http://www.casewatch.org/civil/geier.shtml) duo.

]]> By: eddiehttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91134 eddie Sun, 03 May 2009 15:05:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91134 Physicians are often the ignorant ones in the vaccine debate. We are indoctrinated from medical school on about the holiness of vaccines and can't understand why anyone would think different than our statistically logical minds. The truth is there is a lot of good science against vaccine safety. There has been evidence that autism rates have declined since removal of Thimerosal(see http://www.aapsonline.org/press/nr-03-02-2006.php). Parents do research and come up with information, some good some bad research, and physicians dismiss it as they know it all when they haven't taken the time to do some pubmed searches so they can understand and validate the concerns of parents. in the end vaccines, for the most part for most children, are relatively very safe and win out in a risk-benefit analysis. Once you validate that there are risks to vaccines parents are willing to accept those risk over the risk of not vaccinating. But if you deny the risks of vaccines you become part of the system they feel is trying to deceive them and poison their children. Physicians are often the ignorant ones in the vaccine debate. We are indoctrinated from medical school on about the holiness of vaccines and can’t understand why anyone would think different than our statistically logical minds. The truth is there is a lot of good science against vaccine safety. There has been evidence that autism rates have declined since removal of Thimerosal(see http://www.aapsonline.org/press/nr-03-02-2006.php). Parents do research and come up with information, some good some bad research, and physicians dismiss it as they know it all when they haven’t taken the time to do some pubmed searches so they can understand and validate the concerns of parents. in the end vaccines, for the most part for most children, are relatively very safe and win out in a risk-benefit analysis. Once you validate that there are risks to vaccines parents are willing to accept those risk over the risk of not vaccinating. But if you deny the risks of vaccines you become part of the system they feel is trying to deceive them and poison their children.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91106 Anonymous Fri, 01 May 2009 18:52:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91106 The importance of vaccine and preparedness has become more obvious in wake of the "swine flu virus". The CDC has developed a healthcare hand book to help combat a variety of Vaccine Preventable Diseases.<br /><br />CDC’s Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine-Preventable Diseases, 11th Edition (The Pink Book) – Now Available for Pre-Ordering! <br />The new, 11th edition of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases (The Pink Book) is now available for pre-ordering from the Public Health Foundation (PHF). “The Pink Book” provides physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, pharmacists, and others with comprehensive information on vaccine-preventable diseases. The new 11th edition contains the latest information and updates on immunization. To order online, visit http://bookstore.phf.org/. The importance of vaccine and preparedness has become more obvious in wake of the “swine flu virus”. The CDC has developed a healthcare hand book to help combat a variety of Vaccine Preventable Diseases.

CDC’s Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine-Preventable Diseases, 11th Edition (The Pink Book) – Now Available for Pre-Ordering!
The new, 11th edition of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases (The Pink Book) is now available for pre-ordering from the Public Health Foundation (PHF). “The Pink Book” provides physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, pharmacists, and others with comprehensive information on vaccine-preventable diseases. The new 11th edition contains the latest information and updates on immunization. To order online, visit http://bookstore.phf.org/.

]]> By: AutismNewsBeathttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91089 AutismNewsBeat Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91089 <i>It's PR, not science, and it's hurting the health of children and communities.</i>I think "guerrilla marketing" - an unconventional system of promotions that relies on time, energy and imagination - best describes the nature of the anti-vaccine lobby. The conventional system for promoting new health paradigms, scientific proof, doesn't work for anti-vaxers. So we're seeing unconventional methods.<br /><br />Full page ads in USA Today are just part of the problem. Equally troubling is the credulous coverage the movement receives in news and entertainment media. It’s PR, not science, and it’s hurting the health of children and communities.I think “guerrilla marketing” – an unconventional system of promotions that relies on time, energy and imagination – best describes the nature of the anti-vaccine lobby. The conventional system for promoting new health paradigms, scientific proof, doesn’t work for anti-vaxers. So we’re seeing unconventional methods.

Full page ads in USA Today are just part of the problem. Equally troubling is the credulous coverage the movement receives in news and entertainment media.

]]> By: Debehttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91088 Debe Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:30:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91088 As a Respiratory Therapist who has worked with children for just under 20 yrs. I have to say nothing is worse than seeing a baby or child die, except a child who has died from an avoidable disease. I have seen children die of "whooping cough" because of a parent who believed the propaganda over vaccines, and refused to vaccinate their children. What a price to pay for an uninformed decision. Science doesn't lie, but people with agendas can and do. As a Respiratory Therapist who has worked with children for just under 20 yrs. I have to say nothing is worse than seeing a baby or child die, except a child who has died from an avoidable disease. I have seen children die of “whooping cough” because of a parent who believed the propaganda over vaccines, and refused to vaccinate their children. What a price to pay for an uninformed decision. Science doesn’t lie, but people with agendas can and do.

]]> By: Williamhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91087 William Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:24:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91087 I think doctors are missing the point as to why the anti-vaccine movement is gaining appeal. In my mind there are three types of people the antivaccine moment appeals to.<br /><br />for some it's not about credibility of the antivaccine movement, it's about the excuse. People hate giving thier kids vaccines, kids cry, it cost time and money. The anti vaccine movement has given some people enough reason not to persue vaccines. <br /><br />Then there's actually people who have kids with autism. they are told this kid has an uncurable disease and they don't know why, and their's nothing they can do about it. They are desprate and probably angry and it just happened for some people vaccines became the target for their fustration.<br /><br />Then there's simply the scared- people who are concerned about any possible risk.<br /><br />Providing arguing against the antivaccine movement, does nothing to resolve the orginal problem these patients had (dislike, desperation, fear). It may actually embolden some people to adamantly stick to thier beliefs. And this is why doctors are losing ground on the vaccine front. I think doctors are missing the point as to why the anti-vaccine movement is gaining appeal. In my mind there are three types of people the antivaccine moment appeals to.

for some it’s not about credibility of the antivaccine movement, it’s about the excuse. People hate giving thier kids vaccines, kids cry, it cost time and money. The anti vaccine movement has given some people enough reason not to persue vaccines.

Then there’s actually people who have kids with autism. they are told this kid has an uncurable disease and they don’t know why, and their’s nothing they can do about it. They are desprate and probably angry and it just happened for some people vaccines became the target for their fustration.

Then there’s simply the scared- people who are concerned about any possible risk.

Providing arguing against the antivaccine movement, does nothing to resolve the orginal problem these patients had (dislike, desperation, fear). It may actually embolden some people to adamantly stick to thier beliefs. And this is why doctors are losing ground on the vaccine front.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91079 Anonymous Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:40:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91079 Hasn't it been established that multiple measles vaccinations are required? ISTR reading about the WHO working with the Japanese health authoritiesto revise their measles vaccination schedule after multiple outbreaks of measles in teenagers. Hasn’t it been established that multiple measles vaccinations are required? ISTR reading about the WHO working with the Japanese health authoritiesto revise their measles vaccination schedule after multiple outbreaks of measles in teenagers.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91078 Anonymous Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:35:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91078 "Ask your doctor" Rx drug ads must be run along with a boiled-down version of the package insert with all the risks, side effects, etc. Why can't antivaxer ads be required to meet similar criteria and list the risks that can be incurred by unvaccinated children? How about including the risks their germy kids pose to others? <br /><br />Is this too logical? Unfair? An impingement on their right to free speech? Maybe. But allowing some germy kid to spread preventable diseases infringes the majority's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. <br /><br />Vaccinations don't cause autism. Nobody knows for sure what causes autism and other mental illnesses. The money antivaxer lunatics spend on histrionic ads could be better spent elsewhere. “Ask your doctor” Rx drug ads must be run along with a boiled-down version of the package insert with all the risks, side effects, etc. Why can’t antivaxer ads be required to meet similar criteria and list the risks that can be incurred by unvaccinated children? How about including the risks their germy kids pose to others?

Is this too logical? Unfair? An impingement on their right to free speech? Maybe. But allowing some germy kid to spread preventable diseases infringes the majority’s right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Vaccinations don’t cause autism. Nobody knows for sure what causes autism and other mental illnesses. The money antivaxer lunatics spend on histrionic ads could be better spent elsewhere.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91075 Anonymous Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:29:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91075 Julie--vaccinations work, but all vaccinations that involve a live form of the virus--as with the MMR vaccine--carry a very small risk of infecting the person with the virus. It can happen with anything, even with a flu shot. It's a matter of the person's immune system not responding normally to the virus for whatever reason. It can often be near impossible to predict, since it may be such a slight deviance from normal that it's nearly impossible to tell. The autism/vaccine controversy has been blown way out of proportion. Until there's real, scientific evidence of thimerosal causing autism, or of vaccines "overloading" children's immune systems as some have claimed, I don't buy it. There have not been any studies that have provided real scientific proof for either of these theories--those that claim they did have since been found to be the result of manipulated data or flawed research techniques. Julie–vaccinations work, but all vaccinations that involve a live form of the virus–as with the MMR vaccine–carry a very small risk of infecting the person with the virus. It can happen with anything, even with a flu shot. It’s a matter of the person’s immune system not responding normally to the virus for whatever reason. It can often be near impossible to predict, since it may be such a slight deviance from normal that it’s nearly impossible to tell. The autism/vaccine controversy has been blown way out of proportion. Until there’s real, scientific evidence of thimerosal causing autism, or of vaccines “overloading” children’s immune systems as some have claimed, I don’t buy it. There have not been any studies that have provided real scientific proof for either of these theories–those that claim they did have since been found to be the result of manipulated data or flawed research techniques.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how.html#comment-91074 Anonymous Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/rahul-parikh-anti-vaccine-ads-and-how-false-advertising-harms-children.html#comment-91074 Julie - Not everyone "takes" to a vaccine. This is the importance of "herd immunity". Due to immunosuppression, some patients cannot receive vaccinations - it is therefore imperative that the healthy percentage of the population receive the vaccines. That being said, we do still have constitutional rights. Julie – Not everyone “takes” to a vaccine. This is the importance of “herd immunity”. Due to immunosuppression, some patients cannot receive vaccinations – it is therefore imperative that the healthy percentage of the population receive the vaccines. That being said, we do still have constitutional rights.

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