Comments on: A pediatrician takes the anti-vaccine movement head on http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html medical blog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:59:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: DMG http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-93930 DMG Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:55:41 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-93930 Wow, nice discussion. I was beginning to think that only the anti-vaccination crowd posted online. Wow, nice discussion. I was beginning to think that only the anti-vaccination crowd posted online.

]]> By: ouraboros http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-92431 ouraboros Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:26:05 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-92431 I am a firm beleiver in fredom of choice when it comes to my children and beleive the same should be true for all. BIG HOWEVER!!! If, because of your choice, your child becomes sick and infects, injurs or kills mine, you should be held responsible, criminally as well as civily. Your rights end where mine begin. If you choose act recklessly, you and your children should expect to be home schooled and excluded from long term close contact with children of responsible adults. Dont worry, eventually your little comunity will be wiped out by one of the diseases society at large has made a memory and we wont need to have these discussions anymore. I am a firm beleiver in fredom of choice when it comes to my children and beleive the same should be true for all.

BIG HOWEVER!!!

If, because of your choice, your child becomes sick and infects, injurs or kills mine, you should be held responsible, criminally as well as civily.

Your rights end where mine begin. If you choose act recklessly, you and your children should expect to be home schooled and excluded from long term close contact with children of responsible adults. Dont worry, eventually your little comunity will be wiped out by one of the diseases society at large has made a memory and we wont need to have these discussions anymore.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91522 Amanda Tue, 26 May 2009 23:31:59 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91522 Parents should have the right to say whether or not they want to vaccinate their own children. We always hear the positve aspects of them but doctor's fail to inform patients and parents of the negative ones. Parents should have the right to say whether or not they want to vaccinate their own children. We always hear the positve aspects of them but doctor’s fail to inform patients and parents of the negative ones.

]]> By: Rogue Medic http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91140 Rogue Medic Sun, 03 May 2009 22:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91140 Anonymous 7:28,<br /><br /><i>what ever happened to freedom of choice?</i> <br /><br />Since when is killing children <i>freedom of choice</i>?<br /><br />Since when is killing those with impaired immune systems <i>freedom of choice</i>?<br /><br />This is the problem with conspiracy theories. Once you start feeling persecuted, you feel that any behavior is justified. <br /><br />The prodisease movement feels justified in killing children. These spreaders of lethal illness justify killing as <i>freedom of choice</i>. Anonymous 7:28,

what ever happened to freedom of choice?

Since when is killing children freedom of choice?

Since when is killing those with impaired immune systems freedom of choice?

This is the problem with conspiracy theories. Once you start feeling persecuted, you feel that any behavior is justified.

The prodisease movement feels justified in killing children. These spreaders of lethal illness justify killing as freedom of choice.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91131 Anonymous Sun, 03 May 2009 12:28:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91131 what ever happened to freedom of choice? all you vaccine lovin people: go get your freakin vaccines. Leave the rest of us alone/ what ever happened to freedom of choice? all you vaccine lovin people: go get your freakin vaccines. Leave the rest of us alone/

]]> By: Rogue Medic http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91130 Rogue Medic Sun, 03 May 2009 06:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91130 As Anonymous 12:00 demonstrates, much of this is about conspiracy theories. They feel as if drug companies have taken advantage of them. Yet they defend quacks selling them books and treatments that are just based on scare tactics. No scientific evidence of safety, but these scams are supposed to be safer than vaccines.<br /><br />Conspiracy theories are for people who do not understand math or science. As Anonymous 12:00 demonstrates, much of this is about conspiracy theories. They feel as if drug companies have taken advantage of them. Yet they defend quacks selling them books and treatments that are just based on scare tactics. No scientific evidence of safety, but these scams are supposed to be safer than vaccines.

Conspiracy theories are for people who do not understand math or science.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91013 Anonymous Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91013 Anon 12:00:<br />However uninformed your choice may be, in this society you have a right not to vaccinate your children. But with that right comes responsibility. This includes the possible need that your children to be excluded from public education. In short you may need to home school your children. Your "right" should not risk the rest of our children.<br />Astra-Zenica and Merck did not write the vaccine schedule the AAP did. Conspiracy theories anyone? <br />Look at the vaccine schedule. Each vaccine is specifically against a certain scourage of yesteryear that has now been largely forgotten thanks to it's success. Do me a favor, try talking to the last of the polio epidemic survivors of the 1940's-1950's. They are still out there in there. Many have post-polio syndrome. Hepatitis B (the one Jenny questions as "needed") causes 50% cirrhosis in thoses chronically infected. This easily can be not an issue with a simple vaccination. Seems like a nobrainer here. It is really too bad when people like Jim Carrey can get their uneducated views on sites like the Huffington Post to be read by the masses. Study after study has disproved these views. But these people aren't interested in science. They are interested in blaming someone for a disease we don't clearly understand in presentation. That stated, it is not caused by vaccines. The studies show this to be true. Anon 12:00:
However uninformed your choice may be, in this society you have a right not to vaccinate your children. But with that right comes responsibility. This includes the possible need that your children to be excluded from public education. In short you may need to home school your children. Your “right” should not risk the rest of our children.
Astra-Zenica and Merck did not write the vaccine schedule the AAP did. Conspiracy theories anyone?
Look at the vaccine schedule. Each vaccine is specifically against a certain scourage of yesteryear that has now been largely forgotten thanks to it’s success. Do me a favor, try talking to the last of the polio epidemic survivors of the 1940’s-1950’s. They are still out there in there. Many have post-polio syndrome. Hepatitis B (the one Jenny questions as “needed”) causes 50% cirrhosis in thoses chronically infected. This easily can be not an issue with a simple vaccination. Seems like a nobrainer here. It is really too bad when people like Jim Carrey can get their uneducated views on sites like the Huffington Post to be read by the masses. Study after study has disproved these views. But these people aren’t interested in science. They are interested in blaming someone for a disease we don’t clearly understand in presentation. That stated, it is not caused by vaccines. The studies show this to be true.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-91008 Anonymous Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:25:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-91008 To Anon 12:00 AM:<br /><br />We live in a society that values individual choice, and I agree that an adult can make whatever idiotic choice they like for themselves. However, when ignorance begins to harm helpless children--that's where we need to draw the line on this "freedom to make stupid choices". To Anon 12:00 AM:

We live in a society that values individual choice, and I agree that an adult can make whatever idiotic choice they like for themselves. However, when ignorance begins to harm helpless children–that’s where we need to draw the line on this “freedom to make stupid choices”.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-90999 Anonymous Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-90999 Regardless of how any pediatrician or celebrity feels about the topic of vaccination, the final choice belongs to the parent. It is a doctors job to educate, not enforce, but it will always be wise to remember we live in a society that values choice of the parent over the choice of Merck or Astra-Zeneca. This is not a discussion on vaccination so much as it is a rant on parents vaccine choices, but honestly, isn't the 20plus vaccines the APA suggests in the first year of a child's life excessive? Regardless of how any pediatrician or celebrity feels about the topic of vaccination, the final choice belongs to the parent. It is a doctors job to educate, not enforce, but it will always be wise to remember we live in a society that values choice of the parent over the choice of Merck or Astra-Zeneca. This is not a discussion on vaccination so much as it is a rant on parents vaccine choices, but honestly, isn’t the 20plus vaccines the APA suggests in the first year of a child’s life excessive?

]]> By: Lou http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/pediatrician-takes-anti-vaccine.html/comment-page-1#comment-90992 Lou Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:42:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2009/04/a-pediatrician-takes-the-anti-vaccine-movement-head-on.html#comment-90992 My take on the vaccination debate...which I can't even believe is a debate at all...<br /><br />http://blahblahblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/to-vaccinate-or-not-to-vaccinate/ My take on the vaccination debate…which I can’t even believe is a debate at all…

http://blahblahblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/to-vaccinate-or-not-to-vaccinate/

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