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	<title>Comments on: Treating the uninsured population</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/treating-uninsured-population.html/comment-page-1#comment-87623</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that the various types of cash patients make better use of my clinical skills.  They aren&#039;t simply looking for referrals to a specialist for  each body part or every lab or x-ray test their friends told them about.  We try hard to get their procedures done at outpatient facilities that charge them less than the local hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that the various types of cash patients make better use of my clinical skills.  They aren&#8217;t simply looking for referrals to a specialist for  each body part or every lab or x-ray test their friends told them about.  We try hard to get their procedures done at outpatient facilities that charge them less than the local hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/treating-uninsured-population.html/comment-page-1#comment-87622</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this discussion, it would be more useful to separate the uninsured patients who have the means to pay and expect to do so from those who believe the status of not having insurance is an entitlement to have charges deferred indefinitely or waived.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The former are welcomed. The latter present a threat and a burden to a private practice which does not have the privilege of not paying its bills or meeting its payroll.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can completely understand the reluctance to take on a patient who shows indications of being unable to meet their payment obligations. &quot;Need&quot; notwithstanding, no one should think themselves entitled to charity or lenient terms, but too many do. I had one patient who ran up a big bill in my practice come back for more services and when asked for payment of her arrearage become angry because she expected that because her payment was so far behind she expected us to have written he charges off by that point. As if just not paying for a long enough time was somehow a way to make her obligations go away. As if the accounting treatment of unpaid charges somehow equated with  some change in obligation to pay. Incredible.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It has been a very long time since most patients routinely were expected to pay all of their charges at time of service, and few really understand that credit from their doctor is not an automatic entitlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this discussion, it would be more useful to separate the uninsured patients who have the means to pay and expect to do so from those who believe the status of not having insurance is an entitlement to have charges deferred indefinitely or waived.</p>
<p>The former are welcomed. The latter present a threat and a burden to a private practice which does not have the privilege of not paying its bills or meeting its payroll.</p>
<p>I can completely understand the reluctance to take on a patient who shows indications of being unable to meet their payment obligations. &#8220;Need&#8221; notwithstanding, no one should think themselves entitled to charity or lenient terms, but too many do. I had one patient who ran up a big bill in my practice come back for more services and when asked for payment of her arrearage become angry because she expected that because her payment was so far behind she expected us to have written he charges off by that point. As if just not paying for a long enough time was somehow a way to make her obligations go away. As if the accounting treatment of unpaid charges somehow equated with  some change in obligation to pay. Incredible.</p>
<p>It has been a very long time since most patients routinely were expected to pay all of their charges at time of service, and few really understand that credit from their doctor is not an automatic entitlement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If insurance status will change between 20-40% of treatment/test decisions I have to wonder whether that same proportion of treatments/tests are un-necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If insurance status will change between 20-40% of treatment/test decisions I have to wonder whether that same proportion of treatments/tests are un-necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Ileana</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/treating-uninsured-population.html/comment-page-1#comment-87617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ileana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is especially funny as uninsured can also mean self-paying patients, which will pay the entire  amount in cash... a better sum than the insurance pays. The doctor&#039;s dream patient these days!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This happened to me when I brought my father from out of country to the doctor. My PCP doctor that did not look at the insurance, treated us in the same rushed way as any other patient even though he was paid much better. The staff treated us like second-hand people. Finally the cardiologist asked about the insurance and treated us accordingly: advised against any expensive testing, explained why this is not necessary, and waived his fee. We still had to pay the administration/hospital fee and we waited forever for the doctor to see my father, but it ended up well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is especially funny as uninsured can also mean self-paying patients, which will pay the entire  amount in cash&#8230; a better sum than the insurance pays. The doctor&#8217;s dream patient these days!</p>
<p>This happened to me when I brought my father from out of country to the doctor. My PCP doctor that did not look at the insurance, treated us in the same rushed way as any other patient even though he was paid much better. The staff treated us like second-hand people. Finally the cardiologist asked about the insurance and treated us accordingly: advised against any expensive testing, explained why this is not necessary, and waived his fee. We still had to pay the administration/hospital fee and we waited forever for the doctor to see my father, but it ended up well.</p>
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