<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Getting rid of a cold without antibiotics</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:05:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87696</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87696</guid> <description>Hi Dr Kevin. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Doesn&#039;t ESR cover everything in terms of diagnosing a bacterial infection? Our doctors say that if ESR is not raised, no infection, the end. Does procalcitonin pick up on infections that do not raise the ESR?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr Kevin.</p><p>Doesn&#8217;t ESR cover everything in terms of diagnosing a bacterial infection? Our doctors say that if ESR is not raised, no infection, the end. Does procalcitonin pick up on infections that do not raise the ESR?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ERP</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87635</link> <dc:creator>ERP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87635</guid> <description>I think a good use for it would be someone who comes back after 4-5 days of not getting better. Then, instead of saying &quot;you may have a bacterial URI since you are not better&quot;, you can now come closer to proving it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a good use for it would be someone who comes back after 4-5 days of not getting better. Then, instead of saying &#8220;you may have a bacterial URI since you are not better&#8221;, you can now come closer to proving it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87629</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87629</guid> <description>@Anonymous - the FP&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;you are right on urgent care/ER providers making PCP look bad by prescribing antibiotics.  Plus, and even worse, this reinforces the patient&#039;s expectation of receiving an antibiotics for a URI.  This is the exact opposite behavior we are trying to reinforce.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s just the same as a parent saying no to candy for their child, the child then throws a tantrum, so what happens... the parent given the child the candy thereby reinforcing the idea that if the child throws a tantrum he will get candy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous &#8211; the FP</p><p>you are right on urgent care/ER providers making PCP look bad by prescribing antibiotics.  Plus, and even worse, this reinforces the patient&#8217;s expectation of receiving an antibiotics for a URI.  This is the exact opposite behavior we are trying to reinforce.</p><p>It&#8217;s just the same as a parent saying no to candy for their child, the child then throws a tantrum, so what happens&#8230; the parent given the child the candy thereby reinforcing the idea that if the child throws a tantrum he will get candy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87628</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87628</guid> <description>One of the big problems that I have with this procalcitonin test is how it may be used.  I fear that I will be used as a substitute for practicing the art of medicine.  Part of this art includes being the bad guy and explaining to patients that they don&#039;t need antibiotics. Most cases of URIs don&#039;t need a lab test to tell me if someone needs an antibiotic.  Most people need to be re-educated and shown that they will get better, they just need wait. &lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I have been practicing for about 5 years and I can think of maybe a handful of cases where I would need to use a test like this. Whatever happened to the waiting for 7-10 days, in the case of sinus infections?  Also the AAP as stated that it is acceptable to do watchful waiting for most kids over 2 with otitis.  Never mind that 100% of viral conjunctivitis and 50% of bacterial conjunctivitis will resolve spontaneously.  We providers have become a bunch of spineless wimps that cave the moment someone breaths loudly.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With that, I&#039;ll go back to watching &quot;House&quot; where everything has an answer...If you haven&#039;t found it, you just haven&#039;t ordered enough tests.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the big problems that I have with this procalcitonin test is how it may be used.  I fear that I will be used as a substitute for practicing the art of medicine.  Part of this art includes being the bad guy and explaining to patients that they don&#8217;t need antibiotics. Most cases of URIs don&#8217;t need a lab test to tell me if someone needs an antibiotic.  Most people need to be re-educated and shown that they will get better, they just need wait.</p><p>I have been practicing for about 5 years and I can think of maybe a handful of cases where I would need to use a test like this. Whatever happened to the waiting for 7-10 days, in the case of sinus infections?  Also the AAP as stated that it is acceptable to do watchful waiting for most kids over 2 with otitis.  Never mind that 100% of viral conjunctivitis and 50% of bacterial conjunctivitis will resolve spontaneously.  We providers have become a bunch of spineless wimps that cave the moment someone breaths loudly.</p><p>With that, I&#8217;ll go back to watching &#8220;House&#8221; where everything has an answer&#8230;If you haven&#8217;t found it, you just haven&#8217;t ordered enough tests.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87627</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87627</guid> <description>As a family practitioner, I try to &quot;walk the walk&quot; with antibiotics and URI&#039;s; however, it ain&#039;t easy.  In this era of 30 dollar copays, the patient expects more &quot;bang for their buck&quot; and wants a souvenir, in the form of a prescription, from the visit.  I frequently give the scrip but encourage them to wait at least a week before starting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also find that urgi cares in particular give out z-packs for minimal reasons.  No one studies that, just pcps.  And this scenario makes pcps look bad: patient gets seen early in week, told it is viral and antibiotics not needed, goes to urgicare later in week and is given an antibiotic.  Even the notes don&#039;t make sense: impression is viral uri, plan is z-pack.  The patient is left with the impression that the pcp was somehow deficient.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a family practitioner, I try to &#8220;walk the walk&#8221; with antibiotics and URI&#8217;s; however, it ain&#8217;t easy.  In this era of 30 dollar copays, the patient expects more &#8220;bang for their buck&#8221; and wants a souvenir, in the form of a prescription, from the visit.  I frequently give the scrip but encourage them to wait at least a week before starting.</p><p>I also find that urgi cares in particular give out z-packs for minimal reasons.  No one studies that, just pcps.  And this scenario makes pcps look bad: patient gets seen early in week, told it is viral and antibiotics not needed, goes to urgicare later in week and is given an antibiotic.  Even the notes don&#8217;t make sense: impression is viral uri, plan is z-pack.  The patient is left with the impression that the pcp was somehow deficient.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ERP</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/10/getting-rid-of-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87626</link> <dc:creator>ERP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/10/getting-rid-of-a-cold-without-antibiotics.html#comment-87626</guid> <description>Wow - now that I have to look into!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; now that I have to look into!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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