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	<title>Comments on: Emergency physicians and the medical home</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/09/emergency-physicians-and-medical-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-87186</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to &quot;ad&quot; and ER doctors in general:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1) does your group pay for rent in the ER?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2) how about the nursing staff - do your gross revenues get reduced by their salaries &amp; benefits?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3) how about the electric bill and cleaning fees for the ER?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;4) secretarial staff?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;5) do you order (&amp; pay for) supplies, or is that taken care of for you by the hospital?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;NO, you work in a HOSPITAL, and as such have a steady stream of patients without the usual expenses &amp; hassles of a private office (of which malpractice insurance is just a small part, for most small primary care offices).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And when you go home, you don&#039;t get paged after hours, in the middle of the night after working a long day, like your local primary care colleagues.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I agree that EMTALA is a load of crap. But don&#039;t confuse what YOU do with actually having the hassles of running a small business - something most small outpatient practices would gladly give up for the ability to just practice medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to &quot;ad&quot; and ER doctors in general:</p>
<p>1) does your group pay for rent in the ER?</p>
<p>2) how about the nursing staff &#8211; do your gross revenues get reduced by their salaries &amp; benefits?</p>
<p>3) how about the electric bill and cleaning fees for the ER?</p>
<p>4) secretarial staff?</p>
<p>5) do you order (&amp; pay for) supplies, or is that taken care of for you by the hospital?</p>
<p>NO, you work in a HOSPITAL, and as such have a steady stream of patients without the usual expenses &amp; hassles of a private office (of which malpractice insurance is just a small part, for most small primary care offices).  </p>
<p>And when you go home, you don&#39;t get paged after hours, in the middle of the night after working a long day, like your local primary care colleagues.</p>
<p>I agree that EMTALA is a load of crap. But don&#39;t confuse what YOU do with actually having the hassles of running a small business &#8211; something most small outpatient practices would gladly give up for the ability to just practice medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/09/emergency-physicians-and-medical-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-87183</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most ER doctors DO NOT get a subsidy for mandated unfunded care EMTALA care from the hospital.  I know I don&#039;t and I know most in our large metropolitan area do not.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;EMTALA in no way mandates that the hospital subsidize the ER doctors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Our group does pay about 15 dollars per uninsured patient visit for malpractice and billing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most ER doctors DO NOT get a subsidy for mandated unfunded care EMTALA care from the hospital.  I know I don&#8217;t and I know most in our large metropolitan area do not.</p>
<p>EMTALA in no way mandates that the hospital subsidize the ER doctors.</p>
<p>Our group does pay about 15 dollars per uninsured patient visit for malpractice and billing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many patients for some reason think our small primary care practice doesn&#039;t want them if they&#039;re uninsured.  On the contrary, we&#039;re happy to have uninsured patients;  many practices will offer a cash discount for immediate payment to level the prices for these patients.  In many ways, they&#039;re preferable to the Medicare and Medicaid patients.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, if the ACEP thinks that primary care office should be mandated to see patients for free, that&#039;s even nuttier than EMTALA.  At least the ERs suffering EMTALA get a subsidy from the hospital profit centers.  That would be the last straw for independent primary care practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many patients for some reason think our small primary care practice doesn&#8217;t want them if they&#8217;re uninsured.  On the contrary, we&#8217;re happy to have uninsured patients;  many practices will offer a cash discount for immediate payment to level the prices for these patients.  In many ways, they&#8217;re preferable to the Medicare and Medicaid patients.</p>
<p>Of course, if the ACEP thinks that primary care office should be mandated to see patients for free, that&#8217;s even nuttier than EMTALA.  At least the ERs suffering EMTALA get a subsidy from the hospital profit centers.  That would be the last straw for independent primary care practices.</p>
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