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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico is actually in the top third of countries for wealth and has had a socialist government for nearly 4 generations--they can provide his medical care.  This shouldn&#039;t be controversial.  They would send me home as soon as I could travel safely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexico is actually in the top third of countries for wealth and has had a socialist government for nearly 4 generations&#8211;they can provide his medical care.  This shouldn&#8217;t be controversial.  They would send me home as soon as I could travel safely.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then New York Medicaid officials are just weak and/or stupid. In my state Medicaid program, they will pay for the emergency treatment only--and are strict about it.  As soon as the patient is stable for transport to another hospital in their home county, Medicaid cuts off payment.  That is usually within a day or two of admission.  Certainly no payment for SNF or Rehab.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Actually with Mexico, the hospitals, authorities, and doctors there are good about taking transfer when contacted--just as I would hope an American hospital would be if I were sick in Mexico.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is not mean to send people home.  If I am ill, I want to be home.  Dominican Republic has a medical school.  Surely they can handle patients stable to travel.  In any case, the person is no worse off than their countrymen who stayed at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then New York Medicaid officials are just weak and/or stupid. In my state Medicaid program, they will pay for the emergency treatment only&#8211;and are strict about it.  As soon as the patient is stable for transport to another hospital in their home county, Medicaid cuts off payment.  That is usually within a day or two of admission.  Certainly no payment for SNF or Rehab.</p>
<p> Actually with Mexico, the hospitals, authorities, and doctors there are good about taking transfer when contacted&#8211;just as I would hope an American hospital would be if I were sick in Mexico.  </p>
<p>It is not mean to send people home.  If I am ill, I want to be home.  Dominican Republic has a medical school.  Surely they can handle patients stable to travel.  In any case, the person is no worse off than their countrymen who stayed at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/08/immigration-and-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-87102</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a VERY common scenario in NYC, sometimes referred to as &quot;D.R. to E.R.&quot; -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;patient in the dominican republic gets sick. family puts them on a plane to JFK in NY. They go from the airport to a major academic med ctr ER (e.g columbia, cornell). They get the mega work-up, ICU stay, inpatient rehab, &amp; then SNF for subacute rehab. Meanwhile social workers are getting them emergently enrolled in medicaid, which will be active retroactively.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This whole scenario probably costs $500,000 for that ONE PATIENT, and is a major reason that taxes in NY are about the highest in the country.  Hospitals &amp; nursing homes have no recourse, open to lawsuits for premature or inappropriate discharge.  And why would patients / families from santo domingo care??? They just see america as a place where &quot;they&quot; must take care of you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hospitals need to be given the political / legal teeth to protect their bottom lines from this kind of abuse.  And in the case sited, the family should ABSOLUTELY be responsible for the medical bills (duh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a VERY common scenario in NYC, sometimes referred to as &quot;D.R. to E.R.&quot; -</p>
<p>patient in the dominican republic gets sick. family puts them on a plane to JFK in NY. They go from the airport to a major academic med ctr ER (e.g columbia, cornell). They get the mega work-up, ICU stay, inpatient rehab, &amp; then SNF for subacute rehab. Meanwhile social workers are getting them emergently enrolled in medicaid, which will be active retroactively.</p>
<p>This whole scenario probably costs $500,000 for that ONE PATIENT, and is a major reason that taxes in NY are about the highest in the country.  Hospitals &amp; nursing homes have no recourse, open to lawsuits for premature or inappropriate discharge.  And why would patients / families from santo domingo care??? They just see america as a place where &quot;they&quot; must take care of you.</p>
<p>Hospitals need to be given the political / legal teeth to protect their bottom lines from this kind of abuse.  And in the case sited, the family should ABSOLUTELY be responsible for the medical bills (duh!)</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/08/immigration-and-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-87101</link>
		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something that is of concern.  While doing internal medicine rotations, I encountered a patient who came from Haiti solelyfor medical care after a stroke. She had extensive tests and treatment such as PT/OT, CT, MRI.  Thought to myself when I went to the doctor after hurting my knee, I hesitated to get an MRI due to the co-payment for my knee MRI.  Doesn&#039;t seem right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something that is of concern.  While doing internal medicine rotations, I encountered a patient who came from Haiti solelyfor medical care after a stroke. She had extensive tests and treatment such as PT/OT, CT, MRI.  Thought to myself when I went to the doctor after hurting my knee, I hesitated to get an MRI due to the co-payment for my knee MRI.  Doesn&#8217;t seem right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the PR issue is a problem because no one can accept that people, or perhaps their families, are ultimately responsible for themselves.  A hospital (i.e., a business) that finds a way of ending an otherwise undefined, unending payout for a patient in a coma is considered to be rendering an &quot;injustice&quot; by the family!  I&#039;m sure if they had to foot the bill, they would also be making &quot;other arrangements.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the PR issue is a problem because no one can accept that people, or perhaps their families, are ultimately responsible for themselves.  A hospital (i.e., a business) that finds a way of ending an otherwise undefined, unending payout for a patient in a coma is considered to be rendering an &#8220;injustice&#8221; by the family!  I&#8217;m sure if they had to foot the bill, they would also be making &#8220;other arrangements.&#8221;</p>
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