<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: The daily burden of risk</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:46:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: cjd</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86467</link> <dc:creator>cjd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86467</guid> <description>&quot;If there&#039;s anything I&#039;m &quot;afraid&quot; of, or more to the point, have contempt for, is the manufactured &quot;negligence&quot; ginned up by junk science and greedy lawyers channeling babies in front of juries.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do you ever get &quot;afraid&quot; of pontificating on cases and patients that you&#039;ve never seen the records on?  Or do you have that Fristian ability to diagnose without those things?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People in rural areas can&#039;t find doctors period.  We&#039;ll give you your &quot;reform&quot; when you&#039;ll guarantee us something.  So far you haven&#039;t, so why should we do anything for you?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Besides, even if you would do it and you screwed it up, you&#039;d never admit you were wrong.  You&#039;d point to the sign on your wall.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If there&#8217;s anything I&#8217;m &#8220;afraid&#8221; of, or more to the point, have contempt for, is the manufactured &#8220;negligence&#8221; ginned up by junk science and greedy lawyers channeling babies in front of juries.&#8221;</p><p>Do you ever get &#8220;afraid&#8221; of pontificating on cases and patients that you&#8217;ve never seen the records on?  Or do you have that Fristian ability to diagnose without those things?</p><p>People in rural areas can&#8217;t find doctors period.  We&#8217;ll give you your &#8220;reform&#8221; when you&#8217;ll guarantee us something.  So far you haven&#8217;t, so why should we do anything for you?</p><p>Besides, even if you would do it and you screwed it up, you&#8217;d never admit you were wrong.  You&#8217;d point to the sign on your wall.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86460</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86460</guid> <description>When you screw up you deny responsibility and say they would have died or had that happen anyway, medicine is not perfect blah blah blah. Yet somehow you always seem to take credit when things go right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;medicus curat deus servat&quot; is on my wall. The saying is as old as medicine. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If there&#039;s anything I&#039;m &quot;afraid&quot; of, or more to the point, have contempt for, is the manufactured &quot;negligence&quot; ginned up by junk science and greedy lawyers channeling babies in front of juries.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Glad to see your real attitude is breaking through. Yeah, I bet you sent flowers and contributed to the doctor&#039;s charity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You might notice I&#039;m not the one crying. You are. You&#039;re the one crying you can&#039;t find a doctor willing to do high-risk work, which is exactly my point. Thank you for proving it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you screw up you deny responsibility and say they would have died or had that happen anyway, medicine is not perfect blah blah blah. Yet somehow you always seem to take credit when things go right.</p><p>&#8220;medicus curat deus servat&#8221; is on my wall. The saying is as old as medicine.</p><p>If there&#8217;s anything I&#8217;m &#8220;afraid&#8221; of, or more to the point, have contempt for, is the manufactured &#8220;negligence&#8221; ginned up by junk science and greedy lawyers channeling babies in front of juries.</p><p>Glad to see your real attitude is breaking through. Yeah, I bet you sent flowers and contributed to the doctor&#8217;s charity.</p><p>You might notice I&#8217;m not the one crying. You are. You&#8217;re the one crying you can&#8217;t find a doctor willing to do high-risk work, which is exactly my point. Thank you for proving it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86451</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86451</guid> <description>&quot;Sue doctors or have doctors. You reap what you sow.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We have more doctors than ever.  And what would we sow?  When you screw up you deny responsibility and say they would have died or had that happen anyway, medicine is not perfect blah blah blah.  Yet somehow you always seem to take credit when things go right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You keep crying about the fact that you&#039;ll be held responsible for your negligence.  So how many times has your care been negligent, in your oh so humble opinion?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sue doctors or have doctors. You reap what you sow.&#8221;</p><p>We have more doctors than ever.  And what would we sow?  When you screw up you deny responsibility and say they would have died or had that happen anyway, medicine is not perfect blah blah blah.  Yet somehow you always seem to take credit when things go right.</p><p>You keep crying about the fact that you&#8217;ll be held responsible for your negligence.  So how many times has your care been negligent, in your oh so humble opinion?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86439</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86439</guid> <description>So you say.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dismiss from practice = dismiss from group is usually a group policy. I doubt very much he personally stood up and barred the door against the wishes of the physicians he works with. Blame him if you wish I honestly don&#039;t care. And everybody seems to want big corporate medical practices, that&#039;s what you get with the big groups. In my area, you get dismissed by the big group, there&#039;s a couple small fish like me still solo, but mostly it means you have to go a couple counties away. I&#039;d say about a hundred miles or so.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My sympathy evaporated with the repeated failure of tort reform, and judicial overturn of what little tort reform we had.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You wanted a referral. Even referral carries risk. Blame the lawyers. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t make specific referrals. If I send a patient away I tell them to call the usual medical society and hospital referral lines.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;&gt;Not necessary. Not humane. Not intelligent. And not honorable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(so you say)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nope. It&#039;s business. And self-protection in the days where John Edwards and his ilk make tens of millions off junk science and junk lawsuits.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sue doctors or have doctors. You reap what you sow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you say.</p><p>Dismiss from practice = dismiss from group is usually a group policy. I doubt very much he personally stood up and barred the door against the wishes of the physicians he works with. Blame him if you wish I honestly don&#8217;t care. And everybody seems to want big corporate medical practices, that&#8217;s what you get with the big groups. In my area, you get dismissed by the big group, there&#8217;s a couple small fish like me still solo, but mostly it means you have to go a couple counties away. I&#8217;d say about a hundred miles or so.</p><p>My sympathy evaporated with the repeated failure of tort reform, and judicial overturn of what little tort reform we had.</p><p>You wanted a referral. Even referral carries risk. Blame the lawyers. That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t make specific referrals. If I send a patient away I tell them to call the usual medical society and hospital referral lines.</p><p>>>Not necessary. Not humane. Not intelligent. And not honorable.</p><p>(so you say)</p><p>Nope. It&#8217;s business. And self-protection in the days where John Edwards and his ilk make tens of millions off junk science and junk lawsuits.</p><p>Sue doctors or have doctors. You reap what you sow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86435</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86435</guid> <description>Assuming that you&#039;re a doctor...if so, you&#039;re not one I&#039;d care to trust...let me restate:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He could have referred me elsewhere if he was not willing to accept the risk. Instead, he blocked my access to every physician in his group and increased both the cost and inconvenience of my care.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not necessary. Not humane.  Not intelligent. And not honorable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Doubt those are qualities you value, but I&#039;d like to believe there are a few doctors out there who still do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming that you&#8217;re a doctor&#8230;if so, you&#8217;re not one I&#8217;d care to trust&#8230;let me restate:</p><p>He could have referred me elsewhere if he was not willing to accept the risk. Instead, he blocked my access to every physician in his group and increased both the cost and inconvenience of my care.</p><p>Not necessary. Not humane.  Not intelligent. And not honorable.</p><p>Doubt those are qualities you value, but I&#8217;d like to believe there are a few doctors out there who still do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86434</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86434</guid> <description>Sheesh, you&#039;re laying it on awful thick. You contributed to his charity? Gave flowers and gifts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hoooookay.......&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You assume I care? Assuming I believe your story......you&#039;re starting to sound like the psych cases who praise the new doctor to heaven and damn the old doctor to hell. We know not to trust such patients, they will be cursing you very soon, and suing later. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But, specifically about the doctor taking NO RISK.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unless you signed some sort of agreement to indemnify the doctor, your word is worthless. The doctor had whatever risk he perceived, and chose to avoid it. And you were the risk. Period. The doctor is the one taking the lawsuit risk, he&#039;s within his rights to avoid it if he perceives it as such.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sue doctors or have doctors. Whether CJD cares to believe it or not is irrelevant. That&#039;s the way it is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh, you&#8217;re laying it on awful thick. You contributed to his charity? Gave flowers and gifts.</p><p>Hoooookay&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>You assume I care? Assuming I believe your story&#8230;&#8230;you&#8217;re starting to sound like the psych cases who praise the new doctor to heaven and damn the old doctor to hell. We know not to trust such patients, they will be cursing you very soon, and suing later.</p><p>But, specifically about the doctor taking NO RISK.</p><p>Unless you signed some sort of agreement to indemnify the doctor, your word is worthless. The doctor had whatever risk he perceived, and chose to avoid it. And you were the risk. Period. The doctor is the one taking the lawsuit risk, he&#8217;s within his rights to avoid it if he perceives it as such.</p><p>Sue doctors or have doctors. Whether CJD cares to believe it or not is irrelevant. That&#8217;s the way it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86419</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86419</guid> <description>&quot;5:25 - The surgeon chose to minimize his/her risk. You don&#039;t care about the surgeon&#039;s risk. Fine. I would imagine the feeling was mutual.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My point was, if you cared to see it, that there WAS NO RISK to the surgeon. If I wasn&#039;t OK with his plans for treatment I wouldn&#039;t have agreed to them. By contributing money to his charity and being nice to his staff, I was trying to demonstrate that even though the treatment wasn&#039;t resolving the problem ASAP, I still had faith. And if he had simply said, &quot;You should get a second opinion,&quot; I&#039;d have done that. But he didn&#039;t. He dropped the axe. That is not justifiable. It left me without insurance-covered access to care in his specialty unless I change carriers. No reason I should have to put up with that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So sure, after he decided to dump me and throw vague BS into my records to cover his backside, then yes, I did begin to care a bit less about the fellow. Simple cause and effect. Stab me in the back and I&#039;m not going to like you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can appreciate that you folks don&#039;t like to be sued, but I don&#039;t like to be on the receiving end of such action either. Don&#039;t suggest that it&#039;s OK for the patient to suffer while you&#039;re objecting to the very same conduct. That&#039;s hypocrisy, and it doesn&#039;t help your argument.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;5:25 &#8211; The surgeon chose to minimize his/her risk. You don&#8217;t care about the surgeon&#8217;s risk. Fine. I would imagine the feeling was mutual.&#8221;</p><p>My point was, if you cared to see it, that there WAS NO RISK to the surgeon. If I wasn&#8217;t OK with his plans for treatment I wouldn&#8217;t have agreed to them. By contributing money to his charity and being nice to his staff, I was trying to demonstrate that even though the treatment wasn&#8217;t resolving the problem ASAP, I still had faith. And if he had simply said, &#8220;You should get a second opinion,&#8221; I&#8217;d have done that. But he didn&#8217;t. He dropped the axe. That is not justifiable. It left me without insurance-covered access to care in his specialty unless I change carriers. No reason I should have to put up with that.</p><p>So sure, after he decided to dump me and throw vague BS into my records to cover his backside, then yes, I did begin to care a bit less about the fellow. Simple cause and effect. Stab me in the back and I&#8217;m not going to like you.</p><p>I can appreciate that you folks don&#8217;t like to be sued, but I don&#8217;t like to be on the receiving end of such action either. Don&#8217;t suggest that it&#8217;s OK for the patient to suffer while you&#8217;re objecting to the very same conduct. That&#8217;s hypocrisy, and it doesn&#8217;t help your argument.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86411</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86411</guid> <description>Must be a slow week for ambulance chasing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Notice how he gets madder and madder as the evidence piles up against him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be a slow week for ambulance chasing.</p><p>Notice how he gets madder and madder as the evidence piles up against him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86403</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86403</guid> <description>&quot;However, like in all industries, someone will eventually assess the amount of risk and fill the hole you guys claim to be leaving, and be compensated better than you for doing it.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Um, ok, who do you want doing your head trauma?  Your PA?  And compensated better...  That really is too funny.  9:18, for humor value, your post simply can&#039;t be beat.  Thanks for the laugh!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, like in all industries, someone will eventually assess the amount of risk and fill the hole you guys claim to be leaving, and be compensated better than you for doing it.&#8221;</p><p>Um, ok, who do you want doing your head trauma?  Your PA?  And compensated better&#8230;  That really is too funny.  9:18, for humor value, your post simply can&#8217;t be beat.  Thanks for the laugh!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/06/daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86401</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/06/the-daily-burden-of-risk.html#comment-86401</guid> <description>CJD,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Welcome back.  Whats&#039; up?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJD,</p><p>Welcome back.  Whats&#8217; up?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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