<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: False positives don&#8217;t emotionally resonate</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:09:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Diora</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally.html#comment-85755</link> <dc:creator>Diora</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally-resonate.html#comment-85755</guid> <description>Annie, you can die from the desease even if it is discovered early. You can also not die if it is discovered later. A lot depends on how agreesive the desease is in a particular case. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Earlier detection with screening makes a difference in only a small subset of cancers - those that grow slow enough that they can be detected before they spread yet fast enough that they would&#039;ve spread exactly between the time it is detected by acreening and become apparent; some cancers are so slow-growing that they may not even spread within one&#039;s lifetime. In case of prostate cancer, it is not even clear if screening helps at all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To help you understand the statistics: over 70% of women would survive breast cancer even without screening; out of those who die the frequently-cited 30% mortality reduction (optimistic) means that out of 10 women who would&#039;ve died of breast cancer without screening, 7 will still die even with screening. In absolute numbers it means that if you are in your 50s and screened for 10 years, you have 1/500 chance that it&#039;ll help you. This is an optimistic number, USPSTF cites 1/1200. During the same time you have over 50% chance of having at least one false positive; about 1/4 of these false positives will end in biopsy. Also because of the detection of leisions that would&#039;ve not spread if remaned undetected, you have a somewhat higher chance of being diagnosed with breast cancer, being treated and suffering side effects of treatment (overdiagnosis). The estimates of overdiagnosis vary between 4 and 30% of all detected  cancers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The more accurate the test, the higher the probability of false positives and overdiagnosis.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Emotions and personal preferences aside, what I&#039;d be interested to know is the impact of these false positives on heart desease. Stress is bad for you, some people&#039;s blood pressure skyrockets during false positive, false positive evaluation, etc. None of the studies showed (and had statistical power to show) any effect on all-cause mortality...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie, you can die from the desease even if it is discovered early. You can also not die if it is discovered later. A lot depends on how agreesive the desease is in a particular case.</p><p>Earlier detection with screening makes a difference in only a small subset of cancers &#8211; those that grow slow enough that they can be detected before they spread yet fast enough that they would&#8217;ve spread exactly between the time it is detected by acreening and become apparent; some cancers are so slow-growing that they may not even spread within one&#8217;s lifetime. In case of prostate cancer, it is not even clear if screening helps at all.</p><p>To help you understand the statistics: over 70% of women would survive breast cancer even without screening; out of those who die the frequently-cited 30% mortality reduction (optimistic) means that out of 10 women who would&#8217;ve died of breast cancer without screening, 7 will still die even with screening. In absolute numbers it means that if you are in your 50s and screened for 10 years, you have 1/500 chance that it&#8217;ll help you. This is an optimistic number, USPSTF cites 1/1200. During the same time you have over 50% chance of having at least one false positive; about 1/4 of these false positives will end in biopsy. Also because of the detection of leisions that would&#8217;ve not spread if remaned undetected, you have a somewhat higher chance of being diagnosed with breast cancer, being treated and suffering side effects of treatment (overdiagnosis). The estimates of overdiagnosis vary between 4 and 30% of all detected  cancers.</p><p>The more accurate the test, the higher the probability of false positives and overdiagnosis.</p><p>Emotions and personal preferences aside, what I&#8217;d be interested to know is the impact of these false positives on heart desease. Stress is bad for you, some people&#8217;s blood pressure skyrockets during false positive, false positive evaluation, etc. None of the studies showed (and had statistical power to show) any effect on all-cause mortality&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: annie</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally.html#comment-85747</link> <dc:creator>annie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/05/false-positives-dont-emotionally-resonate.html#comment-85747</guid> <description>Breast cancer is emotional?  Why is the fear of dying from this terrible disease emotionl?  Aren&#039;t men afraid of dying from prostate cancer?  Or is just a woman thing to be afraid of dying?  I would think the fear comes from the very real fact that if not discovered early, you have the likelihood of dying from both diseases.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breast cancer is emotional?  Why is the fear of dying from this terrible disease emotionl?  Aren&#8217;t men afraid of dying from prostate cancer?  Or is just a woman thing to be afraid of dying?  I would think the fear comes from the very real fact that if not discovered early, you have the likelihood of dying from both diseases.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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