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	<title>Comments on: Getting around EMTALA</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Injun&#039;s are off the reservation and the calvary is on their way to suppress their revolt.  The leviathan of the modern tyrannical US government can no more allow this rejection of their authority to stand than they could allow Chief Joseph to get to Canada.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the State&quot;&lt;br/&gt;--Mussolini anticipating Hilary Clinton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Injun&#8217;s are off the reservation and the calvary is on their way to suppress their revolt.  The leviathan of the modern tyrannical US government can no more allow this rejection of their authority to stand than they could allow Chief Joseph to get to Canada.</p>
<p>&#8220;All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the State&#8221;<br />&#8211;Mussolini anticipating Hilary Clinton</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These ERs will be killed off soon enough by Pete Starks and other assholes in Congress.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As soon as one of these opens in the same county as a regular county ER, the politicians will blame every bad financial outcome on the new ER and pass laws requiring all ERs to work under EMTALA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These ERs will be killed off soon enough by Pete Starks and other assholes in Congress.</p>
<p>As soon as one of these opens in the same county as a regular county ER, the politicians will blame every bad financial outcome on the new ER and pass laws requiring all ERs to work under EMTALA.</p>
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		<title>By: CT</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/getting-around-emtala.html/comment-page-1#comment-84488</link>
		<dc:creator>CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t a totally new idea and I don&#039;t think they&#039;re likely to be &quot;killed&quot; off anytime soon. Virtually all service obligations put on health care providers are done so under the guise of being requirements to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments. That&#039;s likely the way it will continue to be. There isn&#039;t going to be some new law placing limitations on these ERs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As well, the liability risks of these EMTALA free ERs is almost certainly greatly reduced. For instance, all research seems to find patients&#039; socioeconomic status as significant in the potential for a med mal suit; with an inverse relationship. I would imagine these EMTALA liberated emergency rooms are serving a specific population. Namely a population less likely to bring a suit following any bad outcome versus a more &quot;traditional&quot; public emergency room population. That&#039;s just a single example of the decreased risk these ERs probably face.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What may limit this kind&#039;ve model (and all practices which try to operate away from Medicare and Medicaid) is the speed at which the Medicare and Medicaid population is growing. How many of these ERs (or in a broader discussion physician practices) can survive without taking Medicare? Not many in any geographic area. Medicare controls too much of the market as a payer and such is only going to grow. The population of non-Medicare/non-Medicaid, insured patients with which to support such ERs is dwindling too quickly to make this type of business model a major player. While nifty, these ERs aren&#039;t going to become anywhere near the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a totally new idea and I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re likely to be &#8220;killed&#8221; off anytime soon. Virtually all service obligations put on health care providers are done so under the guise of being requirements to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments. That&#8217;s likely the way it will continue to be. There isn&#8217;t going to be some new law placing limitations on these ERs.</p>
<p>As well, the liability risks of these EMTALA free ERs is almost certainly greatly reduced. For instance, all research seems to find patients&#8217; socioeconomic status as significant in the potential for a med mal suit; with an inverse relationship. I would imagine these EMTALA liberated emergency rooms are serving a specific population. Namely a population less likely to bring a suit following any bad outcome versus a more &#8220;traditional&#8221; public emergency room population. That&#8217;s just a single example of the decreased risk these ERs probably face.</p>
<p>What may limit this kind&#8217;ve model (and all practices which try to operate away from Medicare and Medicaid) is the speed at which the Medicare and Medicaid population is growing. How many of these ERs (or in a broader discussion physician practices) can survive without taking Medicare? Not many in any geographic area. Medicare controls too much of the market as a payer and such is only going to grow. The population of non-Medicare/non-Medicaid, insured patients with which to support such ERs is dwindling too quickly to make this type of business model a major player. While nifty, these ERs aren&#8217;t going to become anywhere near the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my humble opinion, the liability risk of these EMTALA liberated free standing ERs is greatly reduced.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These facilities are better equiped and provide far higher quality and speed of service (the have to, or they fail).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People have no real respect for you when they know they can freely steal from you. This only encourages jackpot justice litigation from low lifes and free loaders, people generally absent at the free standings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion, the liability risk of these EMTALA liberated free standing ERs is greatly reduced.</p>
<p>These facilities are better equiped and provide far higher quality and speed of service (the have to, or they fail).</p>
<p>People have no real respect for you when they know they can freely steal from you. This only encourages jackpot justice litigation from low lifes and free loaders, people generally absent at the free standings.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea and I see a lot of advantages to this but I also would expect the regulators, trial lawyers (for anyone turned away), and the competing, EMTALA saddled ERs quickly finding new ways to kill these off before they gain any support with the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea and I see a lot of advantages to this but I also would expect the regulators, trial lawyers (for anyone turned away), and the competing, EMTALA saddled ERs quickly finding new ways to kill these off before they gain any support with the public.</p>
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