Comments on: Defensive medicine costs more than money http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html medical blog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:50:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84100 Anonymous Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84100 What's to deny in Texas? The facts, of which you appear to be only remotely acquainted with? They're pretty straightforward - the growth of doctors lags behind the population growth. <br/><br/>I know economics aren't most physician's bailiwick, but more people generally means more work for physicians, regardless of anything else.<br/><br/>It's a tough concept, but study on it and I bet you'll get it. What’s to deny in Texas? The facts, of which you appear to be only remotely acquainted with? They’re pretty straightforward – the growth of doctors lags behind the population growth.

I know economics aren’t most physician’s bailiwick, but more people generally means more work for physicians, regardless of anything else.

It’s a tough concept, but study on it and I bet you’ll get it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84096 Anonymous Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:59:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84096 Still denying Texas, aren't you? Really sticks in your craw to see that tort reform works. As usual CJD, you will always have other ambulances to chase. Still denying Texas, aren’t you? Really sticks in your craw to see that tort reform works. As usual CJD, you will always have other ambulances to chase.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84083 Anonymous Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84083 "Ah, yes I do, actually. Do you?"<br/><br/>No, what is it?\<br/><br/>"We've seen the results, in California, Texas, Indiana. Contrary to your lies, my insurance in my non-reformed state went up, while nearby non-tort-reformed states went down."<br/><br/>What state is that? In Texas, rates nearly doubled, then went back 15%. Since the cases subject to "reform" wouldn't have been paid on yet, that suggests that the amount set aside for reserves was way too high. Tennessee, a noncapped state, also dropped. Arkansas, a state that only caps punitive (which are rarely if ever a factor in med mal) saw declines. But no one can say how much payouts declined, for some reason. Why do you think we can't get those stats?<br/><br/>Insurance rates fluctuate with the economy. Insurers are getting ready to go through some lean times in terms of profitability - enjoy the next "crisis".<br/><br/>"Saw availability go up in Texas. "<br/><br/>No you didn't, the rate of growth of physicians is behind the rate of population growth. What you saw was a bunch of new hospitals come online in '05 and '06 and thus new jobs. Please, spare me the chuckle of the "doctors are disappearing" claims. You guys use that to justify everything. “Ah, yes I do, actually. Do you?”

No, what is it?\

“We’ve seen the results, in California, Texas, Indiana. Contrary to your lies, my insurance in my non-reformed state went up, while nearby non-tort-reformed states went down.”

What state is that? In Texas, rates nearly doubled, then went back 15%. Since the cases subject to “reform” wouldn’t have been paid on yet, that suggests that the amount set aside for reserves was way too high. Tennessee, a noncapped state, also dropped. Arkansas, a state that only caps punitive (which are rarely if ever a factor in med mal) saw declines. But no one can say how much payouts declined, for some reason. Why do you think we can’t get those stats?

Insurance rates fluctuate with the economy. Insurers are getting ready to go through some lean times in terms of profitability – enjoy the next “crisis”.

“Saw availability go up in Texas. “

No you didn’t, the rate of growth of physicians is behind the rate of population growth. What you saw was a bunch of new hospitals come online in ‘05 and ‘06 and thus new jobs. Please, spare me the chuckle of the “doctors are disappearing” claims. You guys use that to justify everything.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84061 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84061 >>Do you know the ratio between economic and noneconomic damages in verdicts that exceed $1M?<br/><br/>Ah, yes I do, actually. Do you? We've seen the results, in California, Texas, Indiana. Contrary to your lies, my insurance in my non-reformed state went up, while nearby non-tort-reformed states went down. Saw it with my own eyes. Same economy.<br/><br/>Saw availability go up in Texas. I see the Bar is trying to get their gravy train back in that state, with still more litigation. One would have though a constitutional amendment would be enough, but I do have to admire your creativity in finding a way to get the jackpot. >>Do you know the ratio between economic and noneconomic damages in verdicts that exceed $1M?

Ah, yes I do, actually. Do you? We’ve seen the results, in California, Texas, Indiana. Contrary to your lies, my insurance in my non-reformed state went up, while nearby non-tort-reformed states went down. Saw it with my own eyes. Same economy.

Saw availability go up in Texas. I see the Bar is trying to get their gravy train back in that state, with still more litigation. One would have though a constitutional amendment would be enough, but I do have to admire your creativity in finding a way to get the jackpot.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84054 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:27:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84054 What problems did it solve? Lower insurance rates? They went down in all states when the economy improved.<br/><br/>Cheaper health care? No.<br/><br/>Do you know the ratio between economic and noneconomic damages in verdicts that exceed $1M? If you don't, then how can you have any clue what will solve your "problem" of having to pay for harm caused by your negligence? What problems did it solve? Lower insurance rates? They went down in all states when the economy improved.

Cheaper health care? No.

Do you know the ratio between economic and noneconomic damages in verdicts that exceed $1M? If you don’t, then how can you have any clue what will solve your “problem” of having to pay for harm caused by your negligence?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84048 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:22:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84048 The same way it solved problems in California, Indiana, Texas, and a bunch of other states. It's the difference between "large" and "massive". The same way it solved problems in California, Indiana, Texas, and a bunch of other states. It’s the difference between “large” and “massive”.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84039 Anonymous Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:03:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84039 How does that solve your perceived problem? A case with massive noneconomics is likely to have large economics as well. How does that solve your perceived problem? A case with massive noneconomics is likely to have large economics as well.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84036 Anonymous Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84036 Nope. Cap noneconomic damages. No cap on economic damages. Nope. Cap noneconomic damages. No cap on economic damages.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84011 Anonymous Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:45:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84011 "That there's more noise when premium rises acutely does not alter the fundamental problems with medical liability."<br/><br/>So we should cap all damages, compensatory and non-compensatory, for all injuries caused by any action, at a level the negligent party can afford to deal with your problem? “That there’s more noise when premium rises acutely does not alter the fundamental problems with medical liability.”

So we should cap all damages, compensatory and non-compensatory, for all injuries caused by any action, at a level the negligent party can afford to deal with your problem?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than.html/comment-page-1#comment-84009 Anonymous Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/03/defensive-medicine-costs-more-than-money.html#comment-84009 I never stopped the crisis call. It matters not if my premium is affordable if I get hit with a judgment that's orders of magnitude higher than your insurance limits. Orders of magnitude higher than any limits you would even dream of having. That there's more noise when premium rises acutely does not alter the fundamental problems with medical liability. I never stopped the crisis call. It matters not if my premium is affordable if I get hit with a judgment that’s orders of magnitude higher than your insurance limits. Orders of magnitude higher than any limits you would even dream of having. That there’s more noise when premium rises acutely does not alter the fundamental problems with medical liability.

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