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	<title>Comments on: When patients won&#8217;t take personal responsibility</title>
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		<title>By: Health Punk</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/when-patients-wont-take-personal.html/comment-page-1#comment-83584</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the evidence you refer to is true (it&#039;s not rocket science, which makes me wonder about the logic behind funding the study).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, if the only outcome variable is total costs, then you&#039;re missing the point.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s about value.  Value incorporates both benefit (outcomes, service, etc.) and cost.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If the only variable of relevance is total costs, and if it&#039;s cheaper to let people die sooner, then why are we even talking about health care?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, a dead person cost less.  But dead people are also aren&#039;t very productive, unless used as props.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Moronic, irrelevant, and poorly designed study = conclusions of the same quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the evidence you refer to is true (it&#8217;s not rocket science, which makes me wonder about the logic behind funding the study).</p>
<p>However, if the only outcome variable is total costs, then you&#8217;re missing the point.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about value.  Value incorporates both benefit (outcomes, service, etc.) and cost.  </p>
<p>If the only variable of relevance is total costs, and if it&#8217;s cheaper to let people die sooner, then why are we even talking about health care?</p>
<p>Yeah, a dead person cost less.  But dead people are also aren&#8217;t very productive, unless used as props.</p>
<p>Moronic, irrelevant, and poorly designed study = conclusions of the same quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/when-patients-wont-take-personal.html/comment-page-1#comment-83573</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the study that proved that unhealthy behaviors do not increase total costs given the money saved by shorter life expectancies just didn&#039;t happen. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I  must have dreamed it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Either that or fundamental groundless beliefs are unimpeded by something as trivial as evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the study that proved that unhealthy behaviors do not increase total costs given the money saved by shorter life expectancies just didn&#8217;t happen. </p>
<p>I  must have dreamed it.</p>
<p>Either that or fundamental groundless beliefs are unimpeded by something as trivial as evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Punk</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/when-patients-wont-take-personal.html/comment-page-1#comment-83519</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Society needs to take responsibility.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is a fundamental concept from public health/environmental health that says that the waste produced by a community should not be transported out of that community, but dealt with by it.  This avoids the out-of-sight-out-of-mind phenomenon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The average healthcare consumer doesn&#039;t see how their use of resources affects the rest of their community (or at least risk pool).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Employers are feeling it.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Society as a whole, however, does not.  (It still boggles my mind that there are people that can&#039;t figure out how the uninsured and underinsured and high-deductible insured ultimately raise costs for everyone!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I want freedom, but I want others to pay for my poor choices.&quot;  That ain&#039;t democracy dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Society needs to take responsibility.</p>
<p>There is a fundamental concept from public health/environmental health that says that the waste produced by a community should not be transported out of that community, but dealt with by it.  This avoids the out-of-sight-out-of-mind phenomenon.</p>
<p>The average healthcare consumer doesn&#8217;t see how their use of resources affects the rest of their community (or at least risk pool).</p>
<p>Employers are feeling it.  </p>
<p>Society as a whole, however, does not.  (It still boggles my mind that there are people that can&#8217;t figure out how the uninsured and underinsured and high-deductible insured ultimately raise costs for everyone!)</p>
<p>&#8220;I want freedom, but I want others to pay for my poor choices.&#8221;  That ain&#8217;t democracy dude.</p>
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