<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: The physician employment contract</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:18:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83323</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/02/the-physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83323</guid> <description>Speaking of noncompetes. I believe Kevin practices in New Hampshire. Here is the rule from the New Hampshire Bar:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;LAW FIRMS AND ASSOCIATIONS &lt;br/&gt;Rule 5.6: Restrictions On Right To Practice &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A lawyer shall not participate in offering or making:&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;(a) a partnership, shareholders, operating, employment, or other similar agreement that restricts the right of a lawyer to practice after termination of the relationship, except an agreement concerning benefits upon retirement; or&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;(b) an agreement in which a restriction on the lawyer&#039;s right to practice is part of the settlement of a client controversy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Source:  http://www.nhbar.org/publications/ethics/rule-5-6.asp&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The noncompete clause condoned by organized medicine would be unethical if done by a lawyer hiring a junior lawyer out of law school. Maybe “condoned” is too strong. Organized medicine frowns on the practice, with a wink. Knowing full well the imbalance of power between an established medical group and a new doctor fresh out of residency with a six-figure debt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have yet to find a State Bar association that does not consider noncompetes unethical in lawyer employment contracts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of noncompetes. I believe Kevin practices in New Hampshire. Here is the rule from the New Hampshire Bar:</p><p>LAW FIRMS AND ASSOCIATIONS <br />Rule 5.6: Restrictions On Right To Practice</p><p>A lawyer shall not participate in offering or making:</p><p>(a) a partnership, shareholders, operating, employment, or other similar agreement that restricts the right of a lawyer to practice after termination of the relationship, except an agreement concerning benefits upon retirement; or</p><p>(b) an agreement in which a restriction on the lawyer&#8217;s right to practice is part of the settlement of a client controversy.</p><p>Source: <a href="http://www.nhbar.org/publications/ethics/rule-5-6.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhbar.org/publications/ethics/rule-5-6.asp</a></p><p>The noncompete clause condoned by organized medicine would be unethical if done by a lawyer hiring a junior lawyer out of law school. Maybe “condoned” is too strong. Organized medicine frowns on the practice, with a wink. Knowing full well the imbalance of power between an established medical group and a new doctor fresh out of residency with a six-figure debt.</p><p>I have yet to find a State Bar association that does not consider noncompetes unethical in lawyer employment contracts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83290</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/02/the-physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83290</guid> <description>Anon 6:56 AM you mentioned noncompete clauses. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bar associations in every state in the country prohibit such noncompete clauses. I have yet to see an exception. If you were a lawyer, hiring a new law school grad to your firm, if you put a noncompete in the employment contract, it would be the unethical practice of law. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The rationale is similar to what you alluded to with physicians. It would inhibit the public&#039;s ability to access lawyers, inhibit the junior lawyer&#039;s freedom to practice law.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gotta give credit where credit is due. In this one aspect, I have to admit the legal profession is far more ethical than the medical profession.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 6:56 AM you mentioned noncompete clauses.</p><p>Bar associations in every state in the country prohibit such noncompete clauses. I have yet to see an exception. If you were a lawyer, hiring a new law school grad to your firm, if you put a noncompete in the employment contract, it would be the unethical practice of law.</p><p>The rationale is similar to what you alluded to with physicians. It would inhibit the public&#8217;s ability to access lawyers, inhibit the junior lawyer&#8217;s freedom to practice law.</p><p>Gotta give credit where credit is due. In this one aspect, I have to admit the legal profession is far more ethical than the medical profession.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83277</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/02/the-physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83277</guid> <description>Better yet, the crooks will use your own AR to fund their defense against your suit for breach.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, the crooks will use your own AR to fund their defense against your suit for breach.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/02/physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83254</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2008/02/the-physician-employment-contract.html#comment-83254</guid> <description>I dealt with a group that I knew had a history over recent years of lots of docs leaving unhappy.  I was careful to get a simple straightforward agreement in writing outlining the important points.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Virtually every item  in that and other written assurances that I had was violated by them.   I ultimately decided not to sue because I didn&#039;t want the hassle and years of preoccupation.  They had multiple attornies on their fulltime payroll and were politically connected judicially and so had the advantage. But their attitude, pretty much &quot;tough tittie, sue us if you dare&quot; nearly provoked me into it.  The scuttlebutt in the local legal community, my lawyer tells me, is that  nearly all their docs get embroiled in lawsuits upon departure now.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As he pointed out, I should have known better than to expect people whom I knew to be dishonorable to honor an agreement.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Get a good contract, but it is only as good as the people who sign it, and only as long as they are the ones making the decisions.  Having a contract and enforcing it on someone who doesn&#039;t intend to honor it are two different things. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And never sign any but the weakest of do not compete clauses.  You have a medical license, don&#039;t be a slave.  You have a professional obligation to maintain enough autonomy that you can honor your obligation to put your patients first.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dealt with a group that I knew had a history over recent years of lots of docs leaving unhappy.  I was careful to get a simple straightforward agreement in writing outlining the important points.</p><p> Virtually every item  in that and other written assurances that I had was violated by them.   I ultimately decided not to sue because I didn&#8217;t want the hassle and years of preoccupation.  They had multiple attornies on their fulltime payroll and were politically connected judicially and so had the advantage. But their attitude, pretty much &#8220;tough tittie, sue us if you dare&#8221; nearly provoked me into it.  The scuttlebutt in the local legal community, my lawyer tells me, is that  nearly all their docs get embroiled in lawsuits upon departure now.</p><p>As he pointed out, I should have known better than to expect people whom I knew to be dishonorable to honor an agreement.</p><p>Get a good contract, but it is only as good as the people who sign it, and only as long as they are the ones making the decisions.  Having a contract and enforcing it on someone who doesn&#8217;t intend to honor it are two different things.</p><p>And never sign any but the weakest of do not compete clauses.  You have a medical license, don&#8217;t be a slave.  You have a professional obligation to maintain enough autonomy that you can honor your obligation to put your patients first.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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