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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why give them a choice&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Because freedom is still worth something--even dying for and killing for. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you think central planners should dictate occupations, then go live somewhere that operates on that principle. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cuba is close and would love to have you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why give them a choice&#8221;</p>
<p>Because freedom is still worth something&#8211;even dying for and killing for. </p>
<p>If you think central planners should dictate occupations, then go live somewhere that operates on that principle. </p>
<p>Cuba is close and would love to have you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, you have to be certain there is a problem with primary care access.  I don&#039;t believe the public perceives this to be a problem.  I do think there are problems in some areas with access to specialists. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rheumatology, endocrinology, and neurology all come to mind. And please tell me how many choices outside of a major medical center you have for subspecialty care like pediatric neurology or pediatric ophthalmology? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The fact is that emergency/urgent care clinics and specialists increasingly provide the bulk of medical care.  This is true for wealthy and poor alike.  Outside of specialist&#039;s offices, more and more care is episodic/acute.  And  this may be the most cost-efficient situation in many cases.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Preventative and primary care actually can be very expensive when you factor in all the visits, tests, and medications routinely prescribed for marginal or asymptomatic conditions.  So go to the doctors office.  Have a cold?  Have a Z-pack even if it is a viral illness.  When was the last time an antacid was recommended instead of Nexium for heartburn? Until recently, how about some Vioxx for that joint pain rather than a trial of higher dose ibuprofen? Trouble sleeping? Skip the OTC benedryl and move on the your choice of high priced RX.  Got Alzheimer&#039;s?  Are you sure that costly medication is really helping?  And be sure to follow-up adding additional layers of cost.  Have you ever wondered how your patients manage to even ingest that long list of medications they tote and just how long they would live without most of them?  How cavalier was the physician in prescibing because the patient expected a presciption and/or you needed to get on to the next patient?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But don&#039;t miss your mammogram, colonoscopy, or prostate exam. And two of these require a specialist. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We are all going to die; delaying the inevitable while maintaining functionality in an economically justifiable manner is the goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, you have to be certain there is a problem with primary care access.  I don&#8217;t believe the public perceives this to be a problem.  I do think there are problems in some areas with access to specialists. </p>
<p>Rheumatology, endocrinology, and neurology all come to mind. And please tell me how many choices outside of a major medical center you have for subspecialty care like pediatric neurology or pediatric ophthalmology? </p>
<p>The fact is that emergency/urgent care clinics and specialists increasingly provide the bulk of medical care.  This is true for wealthy and poor alike.  Outside of specialist&#8217;s offices, more and more care is episodic/acute.  And  this may be the most cost-efficient situation in many cases.</p>
<p>Preventative and primary care actually can be very expensive when you factor in all the visits, tests, and medications routinely prescribed for marginal or asymptomatic conditions.  So go to the doctors office.  Have a cold?  Have a Z-pack even if it is a viral illness.  When was the last time an antacid was recommended instead of Nexium for heartburn? Until recently, how about some Vioxx for that joint pain rather than a trial of higher dose ibuprofen? Trouble sleeping? Skip the OTC benedryl and move on the your choice of high priced RX.  Got Alzheimer&#8217;s?  Are you sure that costly medication is really helping?  And be sure to follow-up adding additional layers of cost.  Have you ever wondered how your patients manage to even ingest that long list of medications they tote and just how long they would live without most of them?  How cavalier was the physician in prescibing because the patient expected a presciption and/or you needed to get on to the next patient?</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t miss your mammogram, colonoscopy, or prostate exam. And two of these require a specialist. </p>
<p>We are all going to die; delaying the inevitable while maintaining functionality in an economically justifiable manner is the goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Criminallopath</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/01/universal-health-care-and-physician.html/comment-page-1#comment-83066</link>
		<dc:creator>Criminallopath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is a &quot;problem&quot; then why give them a choice.  Want to be a provider?  You go into primary care. QED.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or... we finally get rid of the primary care boondoggle and turn it over to the midlevels.  They are going to do the same thing that is being done now... order tests and refer.  Heck, one doesn&#039;t even need a midlevel for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is a &#8220;problem&#8221; then why give them a choice.  Want to be a provider?  You go into primary care. QED.</p>
<p>Or&#8230; we finally get rid of the primary care boondoggle and turn it over to the midlevels.  They are going to do the same thing that is being done now&#8230; order tests and refer.  Heck, one doesn&#8217;t even need a midlevel for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loan forgiveness?  I have to disagree.    There is no free lunch.  Take the handout, and they will own you.  Rationalizing payment would be adequate.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, what makes you think there will be so many new patients?  Uninsured people get a lot of care also.  If people don&#039;t have to go to the county clinic, then those clinicians are free to see them whereever they are going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loan forgiveness?  I have to disagree.    There is no free lunch.  Take the handout, and they will own you.  Rationalizing payment would be adequate.  </p>
<p>Anyway, what makes you think there will be so many new patients?  Uninsured people get a lot of care also.  If people don&#8217;t have to go to the county clinic, then those clinicians are free to see them whereever they are going.</p>
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