It makes more sense to me than paying for the education of children. What’s the point? Children whose parents can’t afford their schooling will probably live on welfare forever, so why do we pay for it? Additionally, people like me who don’t want children as well as those that can’t have them still have to pay school taxes, but can’t get health care.

You can think whatever you want, but you will soon find out that the majority agree with me.

And I am sure “the majority” have about as many ideas as to how to make “single payer” a right as you do (ie. none). If you have some real ideas let us know.

Wow, the majority is always right, huh??? 500 years ago the majority thought the earth was flat. Only 200 years ago the majority thought slavery was acceptable.

Now, the majority understand very little about the economic realities of healthcare. For example, how does one even DEFINE healthcare when you deem it a “right”? That becomes a complicated question if you just stop & think about it.

Politicians probably understand how complex an issue this is, but have little or no incentive to change things. Even if their silly attempts at reform fail, they can always point the blame at the universal scapegoat (doctors) just like insurance companies & pharmaceutical companies do.

Politicians will rather use soundbites like “universal coverage” and “travesty of the numbers of uninsured Americans” to pull at the heartstrings of simpletons & get their vote. In the end, they have GREAT coverage, at OUR expense.

As far as cops are concerned, it’s just not politically sensitive to say “cops are overpaid” or “there are too many cops” as I’ve so aptly demonstrated by this thread. However, there are a LOT of people who agree with me, and have the same basic exposure to cops as I do.

http://nvfc.org/files/documents/NVFC_Stats_and_Facts_Sheet_2007.pdf

There are rural communities all over the country that choose not to fund police. They don’t have police services, except for spotty coverage from the county sheriff and state police.

There are other communities in the middle of big cities that feel the need for service beyond what the city provides, and they fund their own private police force, in addition to the city force.

Anybody who thinks the fire department is a right has never heard of a volunteer fire department.

It was not a physician who likened healthcare to the right to police and fire services. It is also not about “greener grass” – it is about the assertion that everyone is entitled to my service regardless (which they are not) just as they are entitled to the services of the police or fire fighters (whjich they are not).

Data as of April 2007

Physician – Emergency Room 25th%ile Median 75th%ile
the United States $191,260 $216,225 $239,219

“Career: Police Officers
The term “24/7” could have easily been coined for police officers. Even in off-hours, they’re expected to continue to do their job. From patrolling the streets to enforcing traffic laws, a police officer’s job is one of the most important in every community: to keep the streets safe and protect citizens from harm.

Despite the obvious dangers of the job, many people grow up wanting to be police officers — and can’t imagine doing anything else.

Someone who can enforce rules, yet maintain compassion for others. Honesty, sound judgment, and a desire to serve your community are vital.

Government economists expect jobs for police officers to grow as fast as the average for all careers through 2014.

Compensation:
Local police officers earned an average yearly salary of $48,120 in 2006, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. State police earned $52,930. Overtime pay is common for police officers, however, and salaries range widely, depending on location.”

Happyman this is a far cry from 100k-150k

Now don’t go kill yourself when I tell you that in this country, there are people who work packing lines at some of the manufacturing companies, who had ZERO college and some never even graduated high school, who are leaving their jobs after 20 years with over a million dollars in profit sharing.

But the REAL issue here was about a NHS and if healthcare should be a right. Obviously you think it should not be, and I think it should be.

You can think whatever you want, but you will soon find out that the majority agree with me.