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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/ob-crisis-hits-nyc.html/comment-page-1#comment-80543</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;....Lawyer Paul Minor was sentenced to serve 11 years in prison and ordered to pay a $2.75 million fine and $1.5 million in restitution, the Sun Herald reports. Minor earns as much as $2.5 million a year from a tobacco settlement. He also made big money handling asbestos, medical malpractice and car safety cases, the Associated Press reports.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Prosecutors had contended Minor bribed former judges John Whitfield and Wes Teel to obtain favorable results in cases.....&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Asbestos, med mal, and car safety. Going for the jackpot. I wonder if he helped put the bombs on the fuel tanks for that TV new show?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;....U.S. District Judge Henry Wingate of Jackson, Miss., said the wrongdoing had put an end to the defendants&#039; “upward spiraling” careers. &quot;Lady Justice is sobbing,&quot; he said. &quot;You essentially put justice up for sale.&quot;.....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gee, ya think?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But it&#039;s those 99% of lying, cheating, bribing lawyers who give the 1% of honest lawyers a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.Lawyer Paul Minor was sentenced to serve 11 years in prison and ordered to pay a $2.75 million fine and $1.5 million in restitution, the Sun Herald reports. Minor earns as much as $2.5 million a year from a tobacco settlement. He also made big money handling asbestos, medical malpractice and car safety cases, the Associated Press reports.</p>
<p>Prosecutors had contended Minor bribed former judges John Whitfield and Wes Teel to obtain favorable results in cases&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Asbestos, med mal, and car safety. Going for the jackpot. I wonder if he helped put the bombs on the fuel tanks for that TV new show?</p>
<p>&#8230;.U.S. District Judge Henry Wingate of Jackson, Miss., said the wrongdoing had put an end to the defendants&#8217; “upward spiraling” careers. &#8220;Lady Justice is sobbing,&#8221; he said. &#8220;You essentially put justice up for sale.&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Gee, ya think?</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s those 99% of lying, cheating, bribing lawyers who give the 1% of honest lawyers a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, one lawyer is indicative of the whole bunch.  Just like that physician in Boston who was caught operating drunk and high is indicative of all physicians.  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, one lawyer is indicative of the whole bunch.  Just like that physician in Boston who was caught operating drunk and high is indicative of all physicians.  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/ob-crisis-hits-nyc.html/comment-page-1#comment-80481</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I guess if you have no idea how much work and financial risk goes into a med mal case it can seem that way.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would imagine it takes a lot of money to bribe the judge.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.abajournal.com/news/big_name_pi_lawyer_sentenced_for_bribing_judges&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is the risk you might get caught lying and cheating on your way to the jackpot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>I guess if you have no idea how much work and financial risk goes into a med mal case it can seem that way.</p>
<p>I would imagine it takes a lot of money to bribe the judge.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/big_name_pi_lawyer_sentenced_for_bribing_judges" rel="nofollow">http://www.abajournal.com/news/big_name_pi_lawyer_sentenced_for_bribing_judges</a></p>
<p>There is the risk you might get caught lying and cheating on your way to the jackpot.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, let&#039;s limit what the plaintiffs can pay their lawyer, IF we limit what the defendant&#039;s insurers can pay theirs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Weird how doctors don&#039;t like the govt. setting what they get paid, but want everyone else to be subject to it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The lawyer gets a &quot;jackpot&quot;?  I guess if you have no idea how much work and financial risk goes into a med mal case it can seem that way.  Kinda like many people think physicians get paid way too much but they don&#039;t realize how much time goes into becoming a physician.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting how you don&#039;t like it when people criticize you when they lack knowledge on the subject, but you feel free to do it regularly, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, let&#8217;s limit what the plaintiffs can pay their lawyer, IF we limit what the defendant&#8217;s insurers can pay theirs.</p>
<p>Weird how doctors don&#8217;t like the govt. setting what they get paid, but want everyone else to be subject to it.</p>
<p>The lawyer gets a &#8220;jackpot&#8221;?  I guess if you have no idea how much work and financial risk goes into a med mal case it can seem that way.  Kinda like many people think physicians get paid way too much but they don&#8217;t realize how much time goes into becoming a physician.</p>
<p>Interesting how you don&#8217;t like it when people criticize you when they lack knowledge on the subject, but you feel free to do it regularly, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to tell the injured party about the jackpot because the injured party is not getting the jackpot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The lawyer is the one who gets the jackpot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Limiting contingency fees is part of tort reform, after which, you are more interested in the crackhead with the five hundred bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need to tell the injured party about the jackpot because the injured party is not getting the jackpot.</p>
<p>The lawyer is the one who gets the jackpot.</p>
<p>Limiting contingency fees is part of tort reform, after which, you are more interested in the crackhead with the five hundred bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I went parasailing in Florida and had to sign an ironclad liability waiver.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Completely unenforceable, but designed to make you think it is.  I&#039;m glad you have disability insurance.  Hope you&#039;ve read your policy, because there&#039;s a lot of people with disability insurance having to file suit to get that coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I went parasailing in Florida and had to sign an ironclad liability waiver.&#8221;</p>
<p>Completely unenforceable, but designed to make you think it is.  I&#8217;m glad you have disability insurance.  Hope you&#8217;ve read your policy, because there&#8217;s a lot of people with disability insurance having to file suit to get that coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a system in which the patient decides if they want insurance for a bad outcome.  I visualize someone in south Florida going to an OB doctor who goes bare.  Maybe they fly down from New York because they can&#039;t get a doc there.  The get two fees quoted to them. One with and one without outcome insurance.  For that extra Florida cheesy touch, maybe the insurance company could put a little machine in the waiting rooms where you just put you credit card in and buy the insurance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I went parasailing in Florida and had to sign an ironclad liability waiver.  Does that mean I have no compensation if injured or crippled?  Not at all, I have already purchased my own life, medical, and disability insurance.  The only thing I have no insurance for is non-economic damages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a system in which the patient decides if they want insurance for a bad outcome.  I visualize someone in south Florida going to an OB doctor who goes bare.  Maybe they fly down from New York because they can&#8217;t get a doc there.  The get two fees quoted to them. One with and one without outcome insurance.  For that extra Florida cheesy touch, maybe the insurance company could put a little machine in the waiting rooms where you just put you credit card in and buy the insurance.</p>
<p>I went parasailing in Florida and had to sign an ironclad liability waiver.  Does that mean I have no compensation if injured or crippled?  Not at all, I have already purchased my own life, medical, and disability insurance.  The only thing I have no insurance for is non-economic damages.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Economic damages aren&#039;t worthless. The cost of that mother&#039;s work as a mother, done by someone else, is not worthless.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How much is it?  And the elderly? And children?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You say it&#039;s worth something, but your lawyer is sure going to try and knock that value down, isn&#039;t he?  And you&#039;ll be there with your insurer cheering that devaluing on, won&#039;t you?  You&#039;ve already made their lifetime of pain and suffering only worth what the average surgeon makes in a year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tell the kid with the horrific injury you caused what a jackpot he&#039;s won!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Economic damages aren&#8217;t worthless. The cost of that mother&#8217;s work as a mother, done by someone else, is not worthless.&#8221;</p>
<p>How much is it?  And the elderly? And children?  </p>
<p>You say it&#8217;s worth something, but your lawyer is sure going to try and knock that value down, isn&#8217;t he?  And you&#8217;ll be there with your insurer cheering that devaluing on, won&#8217;t you?  You&#8217;ve already made their lifetime of pain and suffering only worth what the average surgeon makes in a year.</p>
<p>Tell the kid with the horrific injury you caused what a jackpot he&#8217;s won!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Because it makes the cases of children and stay at home mothers and the elderly worthless.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Economic damages aren&#039;t worthless. The cost of that mother&#039;s work as a mother, done by someone else, is not worthless.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m sorry you think it is. I think it&#039;s worth something, and a good lawyer should be able to secure that in court.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If that does not turn into a multimillion dollar jackpot for the next John Edwards, I do not shed a tear.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You&#039;ll have to settle for five hundred bucks from the next crackhead. I love that quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Because it makes the cases of children and stay at home mothers and the elderly worthless.</p>
<p>Economic damages aren&#8217;t worthless. The cost of that mother&#8217;s work as a mother, done by someone else, is not worthless.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you think it is. I think it&#8217;s worth something, and a good lawyer should be able to secure that in court.</p>
<p>If that does not turn into a multimillion dollar jackpot for the next John Edwards, I do not shed a tear.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to settle for five hundred bucks from the next crackhead. I love that quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous : 6:07 AM&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After expense compensation is particularly relevant when it comes to puff pieces like the one in question.  How much sympathy would the plebeians have knowing that the provider was still making a good $150 to $200 K after all expenses and the rationale for stopping service (unless more funds could be extorted or more rights could be given up) was not one of doing no harm... except to his own pocketbook?  If the providers want to be &quot;speical&quot; and &quot;do no harm&quot; then they should be held to a standard commensurate with their privileges.  If not, then we can start dismantling the provider first system that has been put into place since the time of Flexner.</description>
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<p>After expense compensation is particularly relevant when it comes to puff pieces like the one in question.  How much sympathy would the plebeians have knowing that the provider was still making a good $150 to $200 K after all expenses and the rationale for stopping service (unless more funds could be extorted or more rights could be given up) was not one of doing no harm&#8230; except to his own pocketbook?  If the providers want to be &#8220;speical&#8221; and &#8220;do no harm&#8221; then they should be held to a standard commensurate with their privileges.  If not, then we can start dismantling the provider first system that has been put into place since the time of Flexner.</p>
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