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	<title>Comments on: A nursing mother wants extra exam time</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/nursing-mother-wants-extra-exam-time.html/comment-page-1#comment-80483</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that even with the extra time and all the accommodations she will either pass or flunk based on her knowledge base and understanding of medicine. She already gets extra time, but did she fail because she ran out of time? or did she fail because along the way she didn&#039;t learn enough basic science, clinical reasoning, and medicine to show that she is competent to practice medicine?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The newspaper article says she sited in her suit that she would be deprived of the ability to make a living, pay back her loans, get on with her career and the like, if she isn&#039;t given every opportunity to pass the test, but where did we get promised on being accepted to medical school that we could do any of that?  We still had to learn it and demonstrate it, on Step 1, Step 2, and Step 3 of the USMLE, along with our board certification exams.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve got to agree with JameMarieMD.  They&#039;ve stretched the rules pretty far already for her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nobody&#039;s entitled to be a doctor, or to pass the boards.  The practice of medicine carries some pretty big responsibilities, including the responsibility to know your limitations.  Looking for excuses and going to court is not going to help her patients if/when she enters practice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I worked full time through medical school, busted my behind to pass my boards, and am now in private practice.  During medical school and residency I encountered students and residents like this.  It was nice that they put their family first, but they did that when they SHOULD have been learning medicine.  In the end, every single one of them (n=7, if you want to know) turned out to be either lousy physicians or never managed to pass, even with all the extra time and accommodations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that even with the extra time and all the accommodations she will either pass or flunk based on her knowledge base and understanding of medicine. She already gets extra time, but did she fail because she ran out of time? or did she fail because along the way she didn&#8217;t learn enough basic science, clinical reasoning, and medicine to show that she is competent to practice medicine?</p>
<p>The newspaper article says she sited in her suit that she would be deprived of the ability to make a living, pay back her loans, get on with her career and the like, if she isn&#8217;t given every opportunity to pass the test, but where did we get promised on being accepted to medical school that we could do any of that?  We still had to learn it and demonstrate it, on Step 1, Step 2, and Step 3 of the USMLE, along with our board certification exams.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to agree with JameMarieMD.  They&#8217;ve stretched the rules pretty far already for her.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s entitled to be a doctor, or to pass the boards.  The practice of medicine carries some pretty big responsibilities, including the responsibility to know your limitations.  Looking for excuses and going to court is not going to help her patients if/when she enters practice.</p>
<p>I worked full time through medical school, busted my behind to pass my boards, and am now in private practice.  During medical school and residency I encountered students and residents like this.  It was nice that they put their family first, but they did that when they SHOULD have been learning medicine.  In the end, every single one of them (n=7, if you want to know) turned out to be either lousy physicians or never managed to pass, even with all the extra time and accommodations.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, one person said sitting for eight hours is torture as per female anatomy. They gave her two days to take the 9h exam, so you do the math... tell me she can&#039;t hack 4.5hours each day? Well, maybe pathology residents don&#039;t get too busy so she can take her 1h break every three hours when on duty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, one person said sitting for eight hours is torture as per female anatomy. They gave her two days to take the 9h exam, so you do the math&#8230; tell me she can&#8217;t hack 4.5hours each day? Well, maybe pathology residents don&#8217;t get too busy so she can take her 1h break every three hours when on duty!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm - have any of you actually breastfed a baby?  Sitting for 8 hours when you&#039;re used to feeding every 3 hours is nothing short of torture.  It&#039;s not whether the baby can or can&#039;t have a bottle - it&#039;s the anatomy of of the women&#039;s breast while lactating - you did cover that in Med School, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm &#8211; have any of you actually breastfed a baby?  Sitting for 8 hours when you&#8217;re used to feeding every 3 hours is nothing short of torture.  It&#8217;s not whether the baby can or can&#8217;t have a bottle &#8211; it&#8217;s the anatomy of of the women&#8217;s breast while lactating &#8211; you did cover that in Med School, right?</p>
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		<title>By: KoKo</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/nursing-mother-wants-extra-exam-time.html/comment-page-1#comment-79967</link>
		<dc:creator>KoKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is a PhD in neuroscience related to clinical pathology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is a PhD in neuroscience related to clinical pathology?</p>
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		<title>By: UroCanswer</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/nursing-mother-wants-extra-exam-time.html/comment-page-1#comment-79954</link>
		<dc:creator>UroCanswer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll see her again someday as some talking head on Fox News or CNN.. hopefully far, far away from any type of clinical practice involving human patients.. maybe the next &quot;great&quot; hospital administrator, or Surgeon General of the US. How pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see her again someday as some talking head on Fox News or CNN.. hopefully far, far away from any type of clinical practice involving human patients.. maybe the next &#8220;great&#8221; hospital administrator, or Surgeon General of the US. How pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: janemarieMD</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/nursing-mother-wants-extra-exam-time.html/comment-page-1#comment-79950</link>
		<dc:creator>janemarieMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to know I&#039;m not the only person outraged by this.  Whaddya bet in a few years she&#039;s whining about not being taken seriously in her field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to know I&#8217;m not the only person outraged by this.  Whaddya bet in a few years she&#8217;s whining about not being taken seriously in her field?</p>
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		<title>By: KoKo</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/nursing-mother-wants-extra-exam-time.html/comment-page-1#comment-79947</link>
		<dc:creator>KoKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problems with this woman:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Had 2 kids in 2 years, while an MD-PhD student.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Has both attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyslexia&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Failed her exam in April&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If this woman is interested in basic research, why enter a residency in clinical pathology and why for God&#039;s sake do an MD-PhD program.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looks like this woman doesn&#039;t know what she wants except to stir up trouble and get her name in print.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d never have her in my lab and  I sure as heck wouldn&#039;t have her as my physician.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She&#039;s a disgrace to woman MDs and women PhDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problems with this woman:</p>
<p>Had 2 kids in 2 years, while an MD-PhD student.</p>
<p>Has both attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and dyslexia</p>
<p>Failed her exam in April</p>
<p>If this woman is interested in basic research, why enter a residency in clinical pathology and why for God&#8217;s sake do an MD-PhD program.</p>
<p>Looks like this woman doesn&#8217;t know what she wants except to stir up trouble and get her name in print.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never have her in my lab and  I sure as heck wouldn&#8217;t have her as my physician.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a disgrace to woman MDs and women PhDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just couldn&#039;t believe what I was reading.  This woman&#039;s sense of entitlement is out of control.  It is  time, in fact, for her to grow up, and show a level of maturity above that of a 3-year-old.  One thing that struck me though - this woman supposedly already has a job at MGH.  What the hell were they thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t believe what I was reading.  This woman&#8217;s sense of entitlement is out of control.  It is  time, in fact, for her to grow up, and show a level of maturity above that of a 3-year-old.  One thing that struck me though &#8211; this woman supposedly already has a job at MGH.  What the hell were they thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: medrecgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>medrecgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words come to mind: NO WAY. I can completely understand the first aspect of the accommodation situation, regarding disability; however, there is absolutely NO reason why she should be allowed extra time for something that has no bearing on the exam itself. I would suggest she pump extra milk beforehand and leave it in storage so someone else can feed the baby while she&#039;s taking the exam. To allow &quot;extra time&quot; for something like this would be setting a terrible precedent in a context that&#039;s already rife with abuse. The baby will not suffer any untoward consequences from taking milk from a bottle; the mother&#039;s attitude, however, strikes me as self-righteous and out of line. What a terrible example to set for a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words come to mind: NO WAY. I can completely understand the first aspect of the accommodation situation, regarding disability; however, there is absolutely NO reason why she should be allowed extra time for something that has no bearing on the exam itself. I would suggest she pump extra milk beforehand and leave it in storage so someone else can feed the baby while she&#8217;s taking the exam. To allow &#8220;extra time&#8221; for something like this would be setting a terrible precedent in a context that&#8217;s already rife with abuse. The baby will not suffer any untoward consequences from taking milk from a bottle; the mother&#8217;s attitude, however, strikes me as self-righteous and out of line. What a terrible example to set for a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really the kind of person you would want to treat you or a loved one? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I doubt someone like this will ever do any clinical practice.  Her real talent is obviously in the area of forensics. She has all the makings of a very successful (wealthy) professional expert witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really the kind of person you would want to treat you or a loved one? </p>
<p>However, I doubt someone like this will ever do any clinical practice.  Her real talent is obviously in the area of forensics. She has all the makings of a very successful (wealthy) professional expert witness.</p>
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