<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Doctor salaries: The free-market experiment</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:04:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Ado</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-95688</link> <dc:creator>Ado</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:02:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-95688</guid> <description>Allow doctors to compete in the market place. People cant afford the current system! We need competition to drive down prices</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow doctors to compete in the market place. People cant afford the current system! We need competition to drive down prices</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-81403</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-81403</guid> <description>DOCTORS NEED TO UNIONIZE!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOCTORS NEED TO UNIONIZE!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80608</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80608</guid> <description>Why do doctors have to take call from home?  I think all doctors should finally unionize.  The idea of a union was built on the very essense of creating more say of the worker.  In the health care industry, the worker has become the doctor and the insurance company and the government have become the employer.  It is time for doctors in the United States to finally unionize.  This will bring back the ideal doctor model of spending quality time for our patients and not running from patient to patient of the marathon days occuring in 15 minute intervals which the insurance companies have forced us to do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do doctors have to take call from home?  I think all doctors should finally unionize.  The idea of a union was built on the very essense of creating more say of the worker.  In the health care industry, the worker has become the doctor and the insurance company and the government have become the employer.  It is time for doctors in the United States to finally unionize.  This will bring back the ideal doctor model of spending quality time for our patients and not running from patient to patient of the marathon days occuring in 15 minute intervals which the insurance companies have forced us to do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80377</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80377</guid> <description>Tell me how to differentiate one doctor from another and I&#039;ll be glad to pay out of pocket for the better one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me how to differentiate one doctor from another and I&#8217;ll be glad to pay out of pocket for the better one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80357</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80357</guid> <description>Insurance companies have been cutting reimbursements for the last 20 years, gradually, but relentlessly. 20 years  ago an ObGyn physician in Boston earned 400K and that bought a house in a great neighborhood. Today the same physician earns 200K, has to see twice the number of patients and the same house costs 1.5 million. That is what we are talking about.&lt;br/&gt;What nobody wants to admit: You get what you pay for. If you want outstanding medicine, you have to pay more. If you want doctors who drop their stethoscope at 5 sharp and sign out your heart attack to the next shift, continue cutting reimbursements. No administrative control, supervision, performance incentive or other nonsense will change anything about that. &lt;br/&gt;Constantly cutting the income of those who really decide and who truly run healhtcare on a day to day basis sends a very clear message: Doctors, we don&#039;t care about you! &lt;br/&gt;Well, patients, guess how we feel!&lt;br/&gt;Cutting reimbursement is the highway to mediocrity, the medical version of hell. And you will never know it...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurance companies have been cutting reimbursements for the last 20 years, gradually, but relentlessly. 20 years  ago an ObGyn physician in Boston earned 400K and that bought a house in a great neighborhood. Today the same physician earns 200K, has to see twice the number of patients and the same house costs 1.5 million. That is what we are talking about.<br />What nobody wants to admit: You get what you pay for. If you want outstanding medicine, you have to pay more. If you want doctors who drop their stethoscope at 5 sharp and sign out your heart attack to the next shift, continue cutting reimbursements. No administrative control, supervision, performance incentive or other nonsense will change anything about that. <br />Constantly cutting the income of those who really decide and who truly run healhtcare on a day to day basis sends a very clear message: Doctors, we don&#8217;t care about you! <br />Well, patients, guess how we feel!<br />Cutting reimbursement is the highway to mediocrity, the medical version of hell. And you will never know it&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80354</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80354</guid> <description>Actually, I own four small businesses, including a law practice.  And when I&#039;ve been in businesses where I didn&#039;t like the return on investment, I sold them.  And if they lost money, well, I usually just didn&#039;t buy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You don&#039;t read very well, do you?  I&#039;m glad you&#039;re not taking medicare anymore.  I&#039;m glad you had the courage to do it.  I don&#039;t want you to be bankrupt.  I want you to make money.  I just want to know how much you have to make before you&#039;re happy enough to quit bitching incessantly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, physicians still make, on average, 50% more than lawyers.  Cry to someone else that you can&#039;t live on an average salary of $150K a year.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I own four small businesses, including a law practice.  And when I&#8217;ve been in businesses where I didn&#8217;t like the return on investment, I sold them.  And if they lost money, well, I usually just didn&#8217;t buy.</p><p>You don&#8217;t read very well, do you?  I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re not taking medicare anymore.  I&#8217;m glad you had the courage to do it.  I don&#8217;t want you to be bankrupt.  I want you to make money.  I just want to know how much you have to make before you&#8217;re happy enough to quit bitching incessantly.</p><p>By the way, physicians still make, on average, 50% more than lawyers.  Cry to someone else that you can&#8217;t live on an average salary of $150K a year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80327</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80327</guid> <description>&quot;How much profit do you need to stop whining so damn much&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1: Do you realize CJD that lawyer&#039;s annual salary has increased robustly after inflation going back to the late 90&#039;s while DOCTOR&#039;S (on average) have DECREASED.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2: Do you realize that the 1997 budget act requires &quot;budget cuts&quot; for doctor&#039;s medicare reimbursement (which everybody else key&#039;s off of) based on amount of money brought in. Though these cuts in general have not occurred (thanks to yearly last minute congress intervention SO FAR), neither have any realistic increases that take into account inflation and increased costs. Tell me CJD. How much would YOU &quot;whine&quot; if that happened to you? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3: Can you read for comprehension CJD? I no longer take new medicaid pts and am one cut away from taking medicare pts. Why? Because I am not only a doctor but a small businessman. I WILL NOT go into bankuptcy because of the government&#039;s inability to pay at least an amount of money so I can stay in the black on pt&#039;s visits. IS THAT TOTALLY AND UNEQIVICALLY CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU CJD? Many docs are in the bind I am. You want to do right by people but you can&#039;t lose your business because of it. In fact I talk to other PCP&#039;s in my situation. Refusing to those who most need it is not an easy thing to do. Of course who suffers in the end? The medicaid/medicare pts further access to doctors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PS: You don&#039;t actually run a business do you CJD. Because your statments make it rather plain to me you are employee of a governmental agency of some type. It is easy to pontificate when you don&#039;t really understand the situation from the outside.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much profit do you need to stop whining so damn much&#8221;</p><p>1: Do you realize CJD that lawyer&#8217;s annual salary has increased robustly after inflation going back to the late 90&#8242;s while DOCTOR&#8217;S (on average) have DECREASED.</p><p>2: Do you realize that the 1997 budget act requires &#8220;budget cuts&#8221; for doctor&#8217;s medicare reimbursement (which everybody else key&#8217;s off of) based on amount of money brought in. Though these cuts in general have not occurred (thanks to yearly last minute congress intervention SO FAR), neither have any realistic increases that take into account inflation and increased costs. Tell me CJD. How much would YOU &#8220;whine&#8221; if that happened to you?</p><p>3: Can you read for comprehension CJD? I no longer take new medicaid pts and am one cut away from taking medicare pts. Why? Because I am not only a doctor but a small businessman. I WILL NOT go into bankuptcy because of the government&#8217;s inability to pay at least an amount of money so I can stay in the black on pt&#8217;s visits. IS THAT TOTALLY AND UNEQIVICALLY CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU CJD? Many docs are in the bind I am. You want to do right by people but you can&#8217;t lose your business because of it. In fact I talk to other PCP&#8217;s in my situation. Refusing to those who most need it is not an easy thing to do. Of course who suffers in the end? The medicaid/medicare pts further access to doctors.</p><p>PS: You don&#8217;t actually run a business do you CJD. Because your statments make it rather plain to me you are employee of a governmental agency of some type. It is easy to pontificate when you don&#8217;t really understand the situation from the outside.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80318</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80318</guid> <description>&quot; We should be able to see pt&#039;s and recieve a profit rather than lose money.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How much profit do you need to stop whining so damn much?  I don&#039;t care who you treat, but will you ever stop bitching?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; We should be able to see pt&#8217;s and recieve a profit rather than lose money.&#8221;</p><p>How much profit do you need to stop whining so damn much?  I don&#8217;t care who you treat, but will you ever stop bitching?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80295</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80295</guid> <description>&gt;&gt;Incidentally, being a doctor in the EU/UK/Canada/Australia is just as competitive. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Probably more so in fact. Where they control the influx of doctors is at the consultant level. Set the bar high, make it very difficult to pass. Then they get registrars who stay in the system much longer, at reduced pay, subject to government whims. When you become a consultant, you can then practice privately.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like one anaesthetist I met once. He was complaining about being in the long neurosurgical case all day, never seeing his consultant (our &quot;attending physician&quot;). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I made some observation about the consultant being in the office doing research, writing grants, instead of the clinical work. I figured NHS training hospitals wee like our USA teaching hospitals.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He gave me the &quot;stupid American&quot; look. Of course the consultant was not available to him because he was in the NHS hospital long enough to induce anesthesia. After that he was in the private hospital nearby doing private cases for real money.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Incidentally, being a doctor in the EU/UK/Canada/Australia is just as competitive.</p><p>Probably more so in fact. Where they control the influx of doctors is at the consultant level. Set the bar high, make it very difficult to pass. Then they get registrars who stay in the system much longer, at reduced pay, subject to government whims. When you become a consultant, you can then practice privately.</p><p>Like one anaesthetist I met once. He was complaining about being in the long neurosurgical case all day, never seeing his consultant (our &#8220;attending physician&#8221;).</p><p>I made some observation about the consultant being in the office doing research, writing grants, instead of the clinical work. I figured NHS training hospitals wee like our USA teaching hospitals.</p><p>He gave me the &#8220;stupid American&#8221; look. Of course the consultant was not available to him because he was in the NHS hospital long enough to induce anesthesia. After that he was in the private hospital nearby doing private cases for real money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/09/doctor-salaries-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80283</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/09/doctor-salaries-the-free-market-experiment.html#comment-80283</guid> <description>Ian:&lt;br/&gt;Given this line from your blog I find your statements rather hypocritical&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;re: &quot;My name is Ian Gibson. I am from northern England but underwent an ultimately successful transplant operation to the United States over eight years ago.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anon 9:00: The answer is very easy. We should be able to see pt&#039;s and recieve a profit rather than lose money. The simple fact is I no longer take new state medicaid pts and am one congressional cut away from no longer accepting new medicare pts. Why, because I lose money every time I see a medicaid pt and medicare is only slightly positive at this point. I know very well how much I recieve from each payment plan (much better than you thank you) as I am not only a doctor but a small businessman. If I don&#039;t know what is going on I will go bankrupt. Of course the bigger issue here is that medicaid and now medicare pts are losing doctor access with paltry payments. But I am sure you have much less understanding of that subject than I as I am the one who has seen these people on a daily basis for decades. It is easy to sprout the same $hit over and over again on this website, but you don&#039;t actually contribute anything....must be a lawyer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:<br />Given this line from your blog I find your statements rather hypocritical</p><p>re: &#8220;My name is Ian Gibson. I am from northern England but underwent an ultimately successful transplant operation to the United States over eight years ago.&#8221;</p><p>Anon 9:00: The answer is very easy. We should be able to see pt&#8217;s and recieve a profit rather than lose money. The simple fact is I no longer take new state medicaid pts and am one congressional cut away from no longer accepting new medicare pts. Why, because I lose money every time I see a medicaid pt and medicare is only slightly positive at this point. I know very well how much I recieve from each payment plan (much better than you thank you) as I am not only a doctor but a small businessman. If I don&#8217;t know what is going on I will go bankrupt. Of course the bigger issue here is that medicaid and now medicare pts are losing doctor access with paltry payments. But I am sure you have much less understanding of that subject than I as I am the one who has seen these people on a daily basis for decades. It is easy to sprout the same $hit over and over again on this website, but you don&#8217;t actually contribute anything&#8230;.must be a lawyer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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