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	<title>Comments on: Woman instists on a VBAC, OB drops her</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79401</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why will he fear that?  How likely is that to happen?  Do you know of any similar cases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why will he fear that?  How likely is that to happen?  Do you know of any similar cases?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79368</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but now he will fear the potential lawsuit over some silliness like &quot;discrimination&quot; or &quot;abandonment&quot; or some garbage. Even if it never comes to pass, it stalks him. And I&#039;m sure it was led up to by long, lengthy and painful discussions, all the while knowing he was right. So frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but now he will fear the potential lawsuit over some silliness like &#8220;discrimination&#8221; or &#8220;abandonment&#8221; or some garbage. Even if it never comes to pass, it stalks him. And I&#8217;m sure it was led up to by long, lengthy and painful discussions, all the while knowing he was right. So frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79309</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in other words you can&#039;t think of a case.  Keep us posted.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And how is anyone in a Catch-22?  He discharged her - end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in other words you can&#8217;t think of a case.  Keep us posted.</p>
<p>And how is anyone in a Catch-22?  He discharged her &#8211; end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 10:25.. yes, we had better find such a case, otherwise it will never proceed right?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Use your imagination, as I am sure her future lawyer will. CAn common sense prevail just once on these posts? Would ANY non physician here like to be put in such a bind when you spent YEARS training and getting competent and paying all these fees, just to get a patient like this who gets you in a catch 22???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 10:25.. yes, we had better find such a case, otherwise it will never proceed right?</p>
<p>Use your imagination, as I am sure her future lawyer will. CAn common sense prevail just once on these posts? Would ANY non physician here like to be put in such a bind when you spent YEARS training and getting competent and paying all these fees, just to get a patient like this who gets you in a catch 22???</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79268</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In other words, juries have taken away women&#039;s right to refuse CS, by holding the docs liable when they do.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please point us to a case like the one Kevin posted where the jury ultimately held the doc liable.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just the state and case name will be sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In other words, juries have taken away women&#8217;s right to refuse CS, by holding the docs liable when they do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please point us to a case like the one Kevin posted where the jury ultimately held the doc liable.  </p>
<p>Just the state and case name will be sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: MedFriendly</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/woman-instists-on-vbac-ob-drops-her.html/comment-page-1#comment-79267</link>
		<dc:creator>MedFriendly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although a physician cannot force a woman to have a C-section if she does not want to, a woman cannot force a physician to perform a C-section if the physican does not want to. That&#039;s really what this boils down to, but the patient in this case was shocked when the physician stuck to his/her position. I understand the patient being frustrated but it seems she does have another doctor lined up to do the VBAC at another hospital.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dominic A. Carone, Ph.D. &lt;br/&gt;Founder and Webmaster of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.medfriendly.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MedFriendly.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.medfriendly.com/blog.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The MedFriendly blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although a physician cannot force a woman to have a C-section if she does not want to, a woman cannot force a physician to perform a C-section if the physican does not want to. That&#8217;s really what this boils down to, but the patient in this case was shocked when the physician stuck to his/her position. I understand the patient being frustrated but it seems she does have another doctor lined up to do the VBAC at another hospital.</p>
<p>Dominic A. Carone, Ph.D. <br />Founder and Webmaster of <a HREF="http://www.medfriendly.com" REL="nofollow">MedFriendly.com</a> and <a HREF="http://www.medfriendly.com/blog.html" REL="nofollow">The MedFriendly blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he lets her VBAC (TOTALLY against ACOG recommendations as she has 2 prior CS and no vaginal births) and she has a bad outcome, the lawyer will say that he should have &quot;tried harder&quot; to talk her out of it.   Since the max insurance the doc can buy is a million, and that would be way less than the usual award in these cases, the doc is stuck.   ICAN should understand that it&#039;s not the docs who are taking away women&#039;s autonomy - it&#039;s the trial lawyers and juries who will say, years later, that the woman &quot;didn&#039;t realize&quot; what the risks were if something goes wrong, and the doc should have &quot;made&quot; her do the CS.  In other words, juries have taken away women&#039;s right to refuse CS, by holding the docs liable when they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he lets her VBAC (TOTALLY against ACOG recommendations as she has 2 prior CS and no vaginal births) and she has a bad outcome, the lawyer will say that he should have &#8220;tried harder&#8221; to talk her out of it.   Since the max insurance the doc can buy is a million, and that would be way less than the usual award in these cases, the doc is stuck.   ICAN should understand that it&#8217;s not the docs who are taking away women&#8217;s autonomy &#8211; it&#8217;s the trial lawyers and juries who will say, years later, that the woman &#8220;didn&#8217;t realize&#8221; what the risks were if something goes wrong, and the doc should have &#8220;made&#8221; her do the CS.  In other words, juries have taken away women&#8217;s right to refuse CS, by holding the docs liable when they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your wasting your time. He doesn&#039;t have the knowledge base in our field to know what you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wasting your time. He doesn&#8217;t have the knowledge base in our field to know what you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know there have been posts on this very blog where you guys have complained and argued for the exact opposite. How many times have you said that there is no reason why a woman cant have a vaginal birth after having a c-section? You just agree with whomever happens to be the MD and what he is saying. You flip flop more than John Kerry.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;# posted by Anonymous : 4:43 PM&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anon 4:43&lt;br/&gt;Your post is complete garbage in my opinion. Many HOSPITALS DO NOT ALLOW VBACS due to the liability.&lt;br/&gt;Please cite ONE example where a physician on this site advocated for the use of VBAC&lt;br/&gt;FP MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know there have been posts on this very blog where you guys have complained and argued for the exact opposite. How many times have you said that there is no reason why a woman cant have a vaginal birth after having a c-section? You just agree with whomever happens to be the MD and what he is saying. You flip flop more than John Kerry.</p>
<p># posted by Anonymous : 4:43 PM</p>
<p>Anon 4:43<br />Your post is complete garbage in my opinion. Many HOSPITALS DO NOT ALLOW VBACS due to the liability.<br />Please cite ONE example where a physician on this site advocated for the use of VBAC<br />FP MD</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know there have been posts on this very blog where you guys have complained and argued for the exact opposite. How many times have you said that there is no reason why a woman cant have a vaginal birth after having a c-section? You just agree with whomever happens to be the MD and what he is saying. You flip flop more than John Kerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know there have been posts on this very blog where you guys have complained and argued for the exact opposite. How many times have you said that there is no reason why a woman cant have a vaginal birth after having a c-section? You just agree with whomever happens to be the MD and what he is saying. You flip flop more than John Kerry.</p>
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