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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/cuban-doctor-on-socialized-medicine.html/comment-page-1#comment-79648</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment was deleted because it is not relevant to the topic.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I refer you to the comment policy of the blog:&lt;br/&gt;http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/comment-policy.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have also said in the past that posts are purposely presented in a polarizing manner to generate discussion:&lt;br/&gt;http://scienceroll.com/2007/08/18/behind-the-scenes-of-medical-blogs-kevin-md/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Make of that what you will.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks,&lt;br/&gt;Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment was deleted because it is not relevant to the topic.</p>
<p>I refer you to the comment policy of the blog:<br /><a href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/comment-policy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/comment-policy.html</a></p>
<p>I have also said in the past that posts are purposely presented in a polarizing manner to generate discussion:<br /><a href="http://scienceroll.com/2007/08/18/behind-the-scenes-of-medical-blogs-kevin-md/" rel="nofollow">http://scienceroll.com/2007/08/18/behind-the-scenes-of-medical-blogs-kevin-md/</a></p>
<p>Make of that what you will.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon at 1:36, you are absolutely right. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Shortages have always been a plague of all communist countries - be it Soviet Union or Cuba. The shortages in health care weren&#039;t specifically the problem of socialized health care per se, but of the whole &quot;planned&quot; economy. There was a shortage of everything - food (other than  bread and potatoes), equipment, nice clothing, toilet paper, etc.. There weren&#039;t enough rooms and beds in hospitals, but there also wasn&#039;t enough housing. And if you don&#039;t have needles and basic drugs like antibiotics, I am not even talking about more expensive equipment, it is really difficult to provide good quality health care. So unless socialized medicine has to be accompanied by &quot;planned&quot; production of needles and drugs and equipment there is no real reason to expect the same shortages here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In terms of manipulating statistics to satisfy Castro - this problem was also pervasive for the whole communist economy and not restricted to health care. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not necessarily for socialized health care. In fact, having a cousin in Germany and seeing both advantages and problems of their system, I am a bit suspicious of it (in fact having a nice insurance I am afraid of loosing what I have). But if you want to make a valid comparison - use Germany or Italy or Sweden, not the third world country like Cuba. Yes, I understand about Moore&#039;s documentary - but just because he took a bit of Castro propaganda as an example of socialized medicine, you should too. If he used a stupid example, doesn&#039;t mean we should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon at 1:36, you are absolutely right. </p>
<p>Shortages have always been a plague of all communist countries &#8211; be it Soviet Union or Cuba. The shortages in health care weren&#8217;t specifically the problem of socialized health care per se, but of the whole &#8220;planned&#8221; economy. There was a shortage of everything &#8211; food (other than  bread and potatoes), equipment, nice clothing, toilet paper, etc.. There weren&#8217;t enough rooms and beds in hospitals, but there also wasn&#8217;t enough housing. And if you don&#8217;t have needles and basic drugs like antibiotics, I am not even talking about more expensive equipment, it is really difficult to provide good quality health care. So unless socialized medicine has to be accompanied by &#8220;planned&#8221; production of needles and drugs and equipment there is no real reason to expect the same shortages here.</p>
<p>In terms of manipulating statistics to satisfy Castro &#8211; this problem was also pervasive for the whole communist economy and not restricted to health care. </p>
<p>I am not necessarily for socialized health care. In fact, having a cousin in Germany and seeing both advantages and problems of their system, I am a bit suspicious of it (in fact having a nice insurance I am afraid of loosing what I have). But if you want to make a valid comparison &#8211; use Germany or Italy or Sweden, not the third world country like Cuba. Yes, I understand about Moore&#8217;s documentary &#8211; but just because he took a bit of Castro propaganda as an example of socialized medicine, you should too. If he used a stupid example, doesn&#8217;t mean we should.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/cuban-doctor-on-socialized-medicine.html/comment-page-1#comment-79606</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, your insinuation that the health care experience in utterly destitute Cuba is at all informative for any other country--in particular, the US--is absurd. A universal health care system in the US likely would and could not bear any resemblance to the socialized systems that have heretofore been seen on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, your insinuation that the health care experience in utterly destitute Cuba is at all informative for any other country&#8211;in particular, the US&#8211;is absurd. A universal health care system in the US likely would and could not bear any resemblance to the socialized systems that have heretofore been seen on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/08/cuban-doctor-on-socialized-medicine.html/comment-page-1#comment-79605</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me sure that I will NOT vote for any Marxist-Leninist candidates for president.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks Kevin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me sure that I will NOT vote for any Marxist-Leninist candidates for president.</p>
<p>Thanks Kevin!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I witnessed how medical directors, high-ranking administrators and heads of departments manipulated statistics using deceptive formulas to adjust data in order to reach goals imposed by &quot;El Commandante&quot; Fidel Castro.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, private corporations would never manipulate data to mis-represent major accomplishments *cough*healthsouth*cough *2.7billiondollarfraud*cough*, because &lt;i&gt;for profit&lt;/i&gt; corporations have absolutly no reason to do so *cough*enron*cough* worldcom*cough*. So, thank goodness the US has the only kind of healthcare that is beyond reproach, private, for-profit healthcare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I witnessed how medical directors, high-ranking administrators and heads of departments manipulated statistics using deceptive formulas to adjust data in order to reach goals imposed by &#8220;El Commandante&#8221; Fidel Castro.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, private corporations would never manipulate data to mis-represent major accomplishments *cough*healthsouth*cough *2.7billiondollarfraud*cough*, because <i>for profit</i> corporations have absolutly no reason to do so *cough*enron*cough* worldcom*cough*. So, thank goodness the US has the only kind of healthcare that is beyond reproach, private, for-profit healthcare.</p>
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