Comments on: Gross anatomy: Not enough cadavers to go around http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77863 Anonymous Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:04:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77863 about the only way for nurse k. about the only way for nurse k.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77849 Anonymous Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:34:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77849 Nurse K:<br/><br/>Well, thats one way to get admitted to medical school. Nurse K:

Well, thats one way to get admitted to medical school.

]]> By: Nurse Khttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77830 Nurse K Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:31:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77830 My college has so many backlogged donated cadavers that when I was there, they were advising people not to donate them because they're running out of storage. My college has so many backlogged donated cadavers that when I was there, they were advising people not to donate them because they’re running out of storage.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77826 Anonymous Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:59:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77826 The first two things that come to mind about gross:<br/><br/>1. Our cadaver was a morbidly obese female whose red finger nail polish survived the embalming process. I still find random pieces of cadaver in my copy of Netter, Moore, Agar and Chung. I was careful with my copy of Rohen and Yokochi, which avoided a similar fate.<br/><br/>2. She had a pituitary stalk tumor that caused her to go blind by compressing the optic chiasm.<br/><br/>~Criminallopath~ The first two things that come to mind about gross:

1. Our cadaver was a morbidly obese female whose red finger nail polish survived the embalming process. I still find random pieces of cadaver in my copy of Netter, Moore, Agar and Chung. I was careful with my copy of Rohen and Yokochi, which avoided a similar fate.

2. She had a pituitary stalk tumor that caused her to go blind by compressing the optic chiasm.

~Criminallopath~

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77825 Anonymous Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77825 Anatomy lab was without the biggest waste of time in medical school. Standing around a cadaver with 3 other people, none of us having a clue about what to do.<br/><br/>And then the hours spent just watching fat being cleaned off...hours and hours of flensing fat, looking for tiny nerves that were long gone.<br/><br/>The alleged benefits of dissection - knowing the body, the anatomy, having an instinctual appreciation for what looks correct and what doesn't, just didn't happen. Yes, I saw livers (for example) - from eaten up by mets to rock hard, literally the size of two football balls. Not even close to 'normal', and since they were all tanned ('embalmed') the texture of everything was totally different.<br/><br/>We could have learned more by studying Netter, or using state of the art multimedia...<br/><br/>I think the ideal would be prosected, plasticized cadavers, with a good distribution of ages, races, sexes. All we had were multiply comorbid elderly caucasians Anatomy lab was without the biggest waste of time in medical school. Standing around a cadaver with 3 other people, none of us having a clue about what to do.

And then the hours spent just watching fat being cleaned off…hours and hours of flensing fat, looking for tiny nerves that were long gone.

The alleged benefits of dissection – knowing the body, the anatomy, having an instinctual appreciation for what looks correct and what doesn’t, just didn’t happen. Yes, I saw livers (for example) – from eaten up by mets to rock hard, literally the size of two football balls. Not even close to ‘normal’, and since they were all tanned (‘embalmed’) the texture of everything was totally different.

We could have learned more by studying Netter, or using state of the art multimedia…

I think the ideal would be prosected, plasticized cadavers, with a good distribution of ages, races, sexes. All we had were multiply comorbid elderly caucasians

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77824 Anonymous Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:33:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77824 Where do medical schools in the U.S. get cadavers for students to dissect, other than people donating their bodies. Surely those are not in great numbers. Where do medical schools in the U.S. get cadavers for students to dissect, other than people donating their bodies. Surely those are not in great numbers.

]]> By: Greg Phttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go.html#comment-77823 Greg P Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/gross-anatomy-not-enough-cadavers-to-go-around.html#comment-77823 I went to med school in the late seventies, part of a "pilot" project which was a segment of the class. The rest of the class got the traditional lecture-discussion track, dissections, and so on, we did independent study, and had no dissections at all, no cadavers at all -- it was all audiovisual materials.<br/><br/>We managed to survive. The one comedic thing was when we finally got to the clinics and had some strange pronunciations for various things since we'd never heard them from a professor. I went to med school in the late seventies, part of a “pilot” project which was a segment of the class. The rest of the class got the traditional lecture-discussion track, dissections, and so on, we did independent study, and had no dissections at all, no cadavers at all — it was all audiovisual materials.

We managed to survive. The one comedic thing was when we finally got to the clinics and had some strange pronunciations for various things since we’d never heard them from a professor.

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