Comments on: The death of primary care: The numbers tell it all http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mikehttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html#comment-78408 Mike Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/the-death-of-primary-care-the-numbers-tell-it-all.html#comment-78408 Cardiologists work much harder than who? Pulmonary medicine? Nephrologists? Please. They have higher liability, thats the most important point.<br/><br/>I thin Kevin is more pointing to the fact that specialist pay goes up, and primary care goes down. They arent rising at the same clip. And the procedure driven RVU system (which is set BY specialists) drags money away from PC docs who dont do procedures. He's not saying Caridlogists and specialists shouldnt make more. Cardiologists work much harder than who? Pulmonary medicine? Nephrologists? Please. They have higher liability, thats the most important point.

I thin Kevin is more pointing to the fact that specialist pay goes up, and primary care goes down. They arent rising at the same clip. And the procedure driven RVU system (which is set BY specialists) drags money away from PC docs who dont do procedures. He’s not saying Caridlogists and specialists shouldnt make more.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html#comment-78405 Anonymous Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:28:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/the-death-of-primary-care-the-numbers-tell-it-all.html#comment-78405 Yes, I think FP pay is too low, but on average I think cadiologists work much harder. 95% of the FP's in my area just do the office/clinic thing and have given up the work in the hospital to the hospitalists.<br/><br/>The cardiologists are still doing the office thing, and hospital consults and admissions, and ER call with Sunday 0300 emergent PTCA's, etcetera........ Yes, I think FP pay is too low, but on average I think cadiologists work much harder. 95% of the FP’s in my area just do the office/clinic thing and have given up the work in the hospital to the hospitalists.

The cardiologists are still doing the office thing, and hospital consults and admissions, and ER call with Sunday 0300 emergent PTCA’s, etcetera……..

]]> By: johnhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html#comment-78404 john Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/the-death-of-primary-care-the-numbers-tell-it-all.html#comment-78404 Anon 2:12--it would be great if Family Medicine docs could average $200K+ on a realistic work week....it would certainly entice the smart med students who really want to do it. Anon 2:12–it would be great if Family Medicine docs could average $200K+ on a realistic work week….it would certainly entice the smart med students who really want to do it.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html#comment-78374 Anonymous Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:37:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/the-death-of-primary-care-the-numbers-tell-it-all.html#comment-78374 These numbers seem off. The primary care numbers seem low whereas the cardiology numbers seems high. I wonder if these numbers take into account number of hours, employees for employer, number of cardiologists versus number of primary care, years in training, demand, etc. These numbers seem off. The primary care numbers seem low whereas the cardiology numbers seems high. I wonder if these numbers take into account number of hours, employees for employer, number of cardiologists versus number of primary care, years in training, demand, etc.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/07/death-of-primary-care-numbers-tell-it.html#comment-78372 Anonymous Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:12:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/07/the-death-of-primary-care-the-numbers-tell-it-all.html#comment-78372 Kevin,<br/><br/>I'm getting sick of your physician ENVY. Why do you begrudge cardiology and other specialties their salary?<br/><br/>Average years training for primary care: 7<br/><br/>Average years training for cardiology : 10-11 (at least for general cardiology)<br/><br/>Average years of training for dermatology: 8 (not including Moh's or extended training)<br/><br/>How about instead of trying to knock down other physicians you try to raise yourself up. You are the problem right now, not the solution. I know you only link sites, but you have been linking this same point for the entire summer each day! Kevin,

I’m getting sick of your physician ENVY. Why do you begrudge cardiology and other specialties their salary?

Average years training for primary care: 7

Average years training for cardiology : 10-11 (at least for general cardiology)

Average years of training for dermatology: 8 (not including Moh’s or extended training)

How about instead of trying to knock down other physicians you try to raise yourself up. You are the problem right now, not the solution. I know you only link sites, but you have been linking this same point for the entire summer each day!

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