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	<title>Comments on: Will any physician vote for John Edwards?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have plenty of intestinal fortitude, thank you. In fact, it took major guts for me to walk away from the steady paycheck of clinical medicine to do something else I found more rewarding. Many other docs quietly toil in misery, too afraid to change their situation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;About universal care, it is you who are half right. Yes there will be some sort of universal program, but rest assured the ability for patients to sue will be left intact. It will be a &quot;worst of both worlds&quot; situation for the docs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I thing that is why Edwards (and other dems) plan retains a role for the private sector - that way there will be someone left to sue. If it was a purely federal play, litigation would be much more difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have plenty of intestinal fortitude, thank you. In fact, it took major guts for me to walk away from the steady paycheck of clinical medicine to do something else I found more rewarding. Many other docs quietly toil in misery, too afraid to change their situation.</p>
<p>About universal care, it is you who are half right. Yes there will be some sort of universal program, but rest assured the ability for patients to sue will be left intact. It will be a &#8220;worst of both worlds&#8221; situation for the docs.</p>
<p>I thing that is why Edwards (and other dems) plan retains a role for the private sector &#8211; that way there will be someone left to sue. If it was a purely federal play, litigation would be much more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you.  Although I&#039;m sure there are many more with more intestinal fortitude who will be willing to brave it for half a million a year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Luckily or unluckily for all, though, we&#039;ll soon have universal care and a no-fault style system, so you&#039;ll get half your wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you.  Although I&#8217;m sure there are many more with more intestinal fortitude who will be willing to brave it for half a million a year.</p>
<p>Luckily or unluckily for all, though, we&#8217;ll soon have universal care and a no-fault style system, so you&#8217;ll get half your wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I left, nearly half of my overhead went to liability insurance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I said decimated, I wasn&#039;t just talking about the financial aspect of liability. That&#039;s not actually the main issue, in my opinion. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The main issue is the constant fear we must work in. The ever-present threat of being hauled into court for a bad outcome or an angry patient is constantly over our heads. It has ruined the doctor patient relationship and turned the job into misery. No amount of money can or should make up for that. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How can we at once care for a patient while knowing that he can lawyer up at any minute and drag us and our families through the dirt? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I now work for a medical device company. There is still of course the risk that the company can get sued, but my personal risk is minimal. Liability goes to the corporation and its insurers, not to me and my family.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I sleep much better at night now! Many, many more who can will follow a similar path. My only fear is that there will soon be no docs left to use my companies&#039; products!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;NeuroMD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I left, nearly half of my overhead went to liability insurance.</p>
<p>When I said decimated, I wasn&#8217;t just talking about the financial aspect of liability. That&#8217;s not actually the main issue, in my opinion. </p>
<p>The main issue is the constant fear we must work in. The ever-present threat of being hauled into court for a bad outcome or an angry patient is constantly over our heads. It has ruined the doctor patient relationship and turned the job into misery. No amount of money can or should make up for that. </p>
<p>How can we at once care for a patient while knowing that he can lawyer up at any minute and drag us and our families through the dirt? </p>
<p>I now work for a medical device company. There is still of course the risk that the company can get sued, but my personal risk is minimal. Liability goes to the corporation and its insurers, not to me and my family.</p>
<p>I sleep much better at night now! Many, many more who can will follow a similar path. My only fear is that there will soon be no docs left to use my companies&#8217; products!</p>
<p>NeuroMD</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/06/will-any-physician-vote-for-john.html/comment-page-1#comment-76797</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what a North Carolina neurosurgeon can expect:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.physicianrecruiting.com/jobs/NS/nc?PHPSESSID=1ebaacb09849c75b8ae8b9d2c9b2f878&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(Given that, I may have undershot the number)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nationwide:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.centerjd.org/Specialists%20Income.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what a North Carolina neurosurgeon can expect:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.physicianrecruiting.com/jobs/NS/nc?PHPSESSID=1ebaacb09849c75b8ae8b9d2c9b2f878" rel="nofollow">http://www.physicianrecruiting.com/jobs/NS/nc?PHPSESSID=1ebaacb09849c75b8ae8b9d2c9b2f878</a></p>
<p>(Given that, I may have undershot the number)</p>
<p>Nationwide:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.centerjd.org/Specialists%20Income.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.centerjd.org/Specialists%20Income.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...bravest and most vulnerable members of the medical profession...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let the hyperbole flow man!  Stop paying them enormous chunks of cash money and see how brave they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;bravest and most vulnerable members of the medical profession&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Let the hyperbole flow man!  Stop paying them enormous chunks of cash money and see how brave they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The average neurosurgeon pays about 8% of his gross to his liability carrier, and still brings home in excess of $250,000.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please cite a reference for this supposed fact, and also what state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The average neurosurgeon pays about 8% of his gross to his liability carrier, and still brings home in excess of $250,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please cite a reference for this supposed fact, and also what state.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average neurosurgeon pays about 8% of his gross to his liability carrier, and still brings home in excess of $250,000. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We should all be so &quot;decimated.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average neurosurgeon pays about 8% of his gross to his liability carrier, and still brings home in excess of $250,000. </p>
<p>We should all be so &#8220;decimated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Edwards is the arch enemy of any physician in a high-risk specialty. As a neurosurgeon, I would literally rather have Charlie Manson released from prison to be our next president. He is the personification of a plaintiffs bar that has decimated my profession. I have personally left clinical practice altogether for a position in the medical device industry to escape the impossible burden of liability. Many more in may field are also looking for their ticket out.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He made his fortune largely by suing OBGYNS on CP cases using flimsy, and subsequently disproven, evidence. The &quot;experts&quot; he used where highly questionable- you can unfortunately pay almost anyone to say anything. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mr. Edwards is emblematic of a tort system that has determined that intracranial neurosurgeons and high-risk obstetricians simply carry an unacceptible risk of liability. Period. When the liability costs exceed the potential income from any venture, it simply cannot be rationally performed. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;John Edwards has made millions extorting these bravest and most vulnerable members of the medical profession, and perversely wrapping that extortion in a false illusion of justice and &quot;fighting for the little man.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is no doubt that he&#039;s an effective litigator- but thank goodness the presidential election is NOT a courtroom. The American electorate, particularly the primary electorate, is not a sympathetic and uneducated jury for Mr. Edwards to manipulate. He is trailing in the polls, despite sinking in a fortune of his own ill-gotten gains.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If John Edwards does manage to get elected, it will be nothing less than the triumph of evil over justice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-NeuroMD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Edwards is the arch enemy of any physician in a high-risk specialty. As a neurosurgeon, I would literally rather have Charlie Manson released from prison to be our next president. He is the personification of a plaintiffs bar that has decimated my profession. I have personally left clinical practice altogether for a position in the medical device industry to escape the impossible burden of liability. Many more in may field are also looking for their ticket out.</p>
<p>He made his fortune largely by suing OBGYNS on CP cases using flimsy, and subsequently disproven, evidence. The &#8220;experts&#8221; he used where highly questionable- you can unfortunately pay almost anyone to say anything. </p>
<p>Mr. Edwards is emblematic of a tort system that has determined that intracranial neurosurgeons and high-risk obstetricians simply carry an unacceptible risk of liability. Period. When the liability costs exceed the potential income from any venture, it simply cannot be rationally performed. </p>
<p>John Edwards has made millions extorting these bravest and most vulnerable members of the medical profession, and perversely wrapping that extortion in a false illusion of justice and &#8220;fighting for the little man.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no doubt that he&#8217;s an effective litigator- but thank goodness the presidential election is NOT a courtroom. The American electorate, particularly the primary electorate, is not a sympathetic and uneducated jury for Mr. Edwards to manipulate. He is trailing in the polls, despite sinking in a fortune of his own ill-gotten gains.</p>
<p>If John Edwards does manage to get elected, it will be nothing less than the triumph of evil over justice.</p>
<p>-NeuroMD</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJD:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;re: &quot;It&#039;s interesting you question my statistics when you provide literally none at all for your claims. Do you miss the irony in that?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t blame me for pointing out you provide incomplete (and uncited) statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJD:</p>
<p>re: &#8220;It&#8217;s interesting you question my statistics when you provide literally none at all for your claims. Do you miss the irony in that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame me for pointing out you provide incomplete (and uncited) statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you believe physicians believe Bill Frist can diagnose PVS from a five minute video?  Then again, he isn&#039;t running for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you believe physicians believe Bill Frist can diagnose PVS from a five minute video?  Then again, he isn&#8217;t running for president.</p>
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