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	<title>Comments on: Treating patients over the phone</title>
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		<title>By: Mystle Edmundson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystle Edmundson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would be very careful when doctors want to &#039;call in&#039; a prescription over the phone.  I was prescibed penicillian over the phone and now I sit here covered in hives.  Now I read that I should have been given a skin test--at least that!  I didn&#039;t know I was allergic.  So be careful.  What I have is minor, but it could have been worse; a lot worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I would be very careful when doctors want to &#8216;call in&#8217; a prescription over the phone.  I was prescibed penicillian over the phone and now I sit here covered in hives.  Now I read that I should have been given a skin test&#8211;at least that!  I didn&#8217;t know I was allergic.  So be careful.  What I have is minor, but it could have been worse; a lot worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/06/treating-patients-over-phone.html/comment-page-1#comment-76172</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medical Economics had a great article about this http://www.memag.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=379588&amp;searchString=older%20doctors%20and%20telephone%20medicine&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the whole time I read it I kept thinking &quot;What if this person on the other end of the phone doesnt have IBS , but has Crohn&#039;s disease&quot;?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gentlemen, renew your malpractice!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No surprise the HMO&#039;s are pushing it. They won&#039;t lose their license or go to jail and they save money. Its win-win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical Economics had a great article about this <a href="http://www.memag.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=379588&#038;searchString=older%20doctors%20and%20telephone%20medicine" rel="nofollow">http://www.memag.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=379588&#038;searchString=older%20doctors%20and%20telephone%20medicine</a></p>
<p>But the whole time I read it I kept thinking &#8220;What if this person on the other end of the phone doesnt have IBS , but has Crohn&#8217;s disease&#8221;?</p>
<p>Gentlemen, renew your malpractice!</p>
<p>No surprise the HMO&#8217;s are pushing it. They won&#8217;t lose their license or go to jail and they save money. Its win-win.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/06/treating-patients-over-phone.html/comment-page-1#comment-76146</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;RNs are not licensed to diagnose or treat. &quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But do they know this??&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The phone RNs Dx a patient via either a checklist or via computer software.  Sight unseen, the RN makes a Dx&lt;br/&gt;( UTI ) that sounds (!) right and then from the checklist of drugs ( formulary) Rx a med.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Everything runs smoothly till the RN has a pharmacist &lt;br/&gt;as a patient and then the great awakening occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;RNs are not licensed to diagnose or treat. &#8220;</p>
<p>But do they know this??</p>
<p>The phone RNs Dx a patient via either a checklist or via computer software.  Sight unseen, the RN makes a Dx<br />( UTI ) that sounds (!) right and then from the checklist of drugs ( formulary) Rx a med.</p>
<p>Everything runs smoothly till the RN has a pharmacist <br />as a patient and then the great awakening occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris, RN</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/06/treating-patients-over-phone.html/comment-page-1#comment-76143</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris, RN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RNs are not licensed to diagnose or treat. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Where I work, there are a few routine, low risk conditions that allow us to request telephone treatment for medicine, which is reviewed &amp; signed off by a physician.  Things like a nasal spray for hay fever.  Patients expect the convenience. I don&#039;t work in the physician&#039;s office, but in a call center, where the patient calls a central number and we act as a front office.  The same type of thing occurs in private physician offices everywhere.  Nurses or MAs gather data, communicate it to a physician who writes the prescription.  In the system I work in, all of the patients records are right in front of us on computer, as opposed to doctors offices where they employ a separate person to pull a chart, which gets routed to the doctor&#039;s inbox, where it will sit until the physician gets a spare moment. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most physicians prefer an office visit.  There are more times than not that the patient refuses to be evaluated for a routine problem and insist on a message to the doctor instead for a call back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RNs are not licensed to diagnose or treat. </p>
<p>Where I work, there are a few routine, low risk conditions that allow us to request telephone treatment for medicine, which is reviewed &#038; signed off by a physician.  Things like a nasal spray for hay fever.  Patients expect the convenience. I don&#8217;t work in the physician&#8217;s office, but in a call center, where the patient calls a central number and we act as a front office.  The same type of thing occurs in private physician offices everywhere.  Nurses or MAs gather data, communicate it to a physician who writes the prescription.  In the system I work in, all of the patients records are right in front of us on computer, as opposed to doctors offices where they employ a separate person to pull a chart, which gets routed to the doctor&#8217;s inbox, where it will sit until the physician gets a spare moment. </p>
<p>Most physicians prefer an office visit.  There are more times than not that the patient refuses to be evaluated for a routine problem and insist on a message to the doctor instead for a call back.</p>
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		<title>By: KoKo</title>
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		<dc:creator>KoKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If am MD has had a long term professional relationship, it may be OK to Dx and Tx the patient over the phone for minor illness.  I have little or no problem with that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do have a major worry when it comes to RNs who Rx meds, based on symptoms detailed to them over the phone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When did RNs earn the right to diagnose and then prescribe for various disorders?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do these RNs realize the potential dangers of their actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If am MD has had a long term professional relationship, it may be OK to Dx and Tx the patient over the phone for minor illness.  I have little or no problem with that.</p>
<p>I do have a major worry when it comes to RNs who Rx meds, based on symptoms detailed to them over the phone.</p>
<p>When did RNs earn the right to diagnose and then prescribe for various disorders?</p>
<p>Do these RNs realize the potential dangers of their actions?</p>
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