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		<title>By: Jeffrey Dach MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Dach MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;What is the real solution, if Michael Moore’s government sponsored universal health care is not the answer? &lt;/b&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The crux of the &quot;SICKO&quot; documentary is the disconnect between our expectations and the reality of health care. We are expecting compassionate care from another human being, and instead we get a faceless corporation. The person behind the desk or window is an agent of a health care corporation, which is not a human being, whose primary goal is to increase corporate profit. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is America, and corporate profit is good, the profit motive forming the basis America’s greatness. The basic problem is that a corporation is not a human being. Therein lies the fallacy of replacing a corporation with a government agency, neither of which is a human being, when what we really want is a human being to deliver compassionate health care, and assist in serious health care decisions.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ultimately we must at some point ration health care to avoid national bancruptcy.  We can&#039;t provide everything for everybody. Moore&#039;s film, SICKO  replaces the corporate health company with the government agency as the agent of this care rationing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My major point here, is that the larger issue which is ignored by the SICKO film, is the &lt;b&gt;control&lt;/b&gt; of medical information, which then determines expenditure and rationing patterns. The control of medical information controls the money. This is explained fully at:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://jeffreydach.com/2007/07/08/sicko--michael-moore-and-the-crisis-in-health-care-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Review of &quot;SICKO&quot;, by Jeffrey Dach MD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.drdach.com/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeffrey Dach MD&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>What is the real solution, if Michael Moore’s government sponsored universal health care is not the answer? </b> </p>
<p>The crux of the &#8220;SICKO&#8221; documentary is the disconnect between our expectations and the reality of health care. We are expecting compassionate care from another human being, and instead we get a faceless corporation. The person behind the desk or window is an agent of a health care corporation, which is not a human being, whose primary goal is to increase corporate profit. </p>
<p>This is America, and corporate profit is good, the profit motive forming the basis America’s greatness. The basic problem is that a corporation is not a human being. Therein lies the fallacy of replacing a corporation with a government agency, neither of which is a human being, when what we really want is a human being to deliver compassionate health care, and assist in serious health care decisions.  </p>
<p>Ultimately we must at some point ration health care to avoid national bancruptcy.  We can&#8217;t provide everything for everybody. Moore&#8217;s film, SICKO  replaces the corporate health company with the government agency as the agent of this care rationing.</p>
<p>My major point here, is that the larger issue which is ignored by the SICKO film, is the <b>control</b> of medical information, which then determines expenditure and rationing patterns. The control of medical information controls the money. This is explained fully at:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://jeffreydach.com/2007/07/08/sicko--michael-moore-and-the-crisis-in-health-care-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx" REL="nofollow">Review of &#8220;SICKO&#8221;, by Jeffrey Dach MD</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.drdach.com/" REL="nofollow">Jeffrey Dach MD</a></p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out another great medical short film called &quot;The Musician Physician&quot; at uvu.channel2.org KEYWORD Musician Physician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out another great medical short film called &#8220;The Musician Physician&#8221; at uvu.channel2.org KEYWORD Musician Physician.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Moore doesn&#039;t say that Cuba&#039;s health care system is better than America&#039;s.  He says it&#039;s among the best in the Third world.  In Sicko, he&#039;s only projecting a sad irony that  American heroes who are denied care from their own country can actually get treatment with the &quot;communist enemy.&quot;  Why show this?  To hammer home that something is terribly wrong with our health care system and it should be fixed.  I don&#039;t want to hear anymore about Moore saying Cuba&#039;s health care is better than the U.S.  He&#039;s simply suggesting that we look at a whole slew of countries and use what works with those countries&#039; systems to make a bigger, better Americanized health care system that guarantees care for everybody, especially children.  What in the heck is wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Moore doesn&#8217;t say that Cuba&#8217;s health care system is better than America&#8217;s.  He says it&#8217;s among the best in the Third world.  In Sicko, he&#8217;s only projecting a sad irony that  American heroes who are denied care from their own country can actually get treatment with the &#8220;communist enemy.&#8221;  Why show this?  To hammer home that something is terribly wrong with our health care system and it should be fixed.  I don&#8217;t want to hear anymore about Moore saying Cuba&#8217;s health care is better than the U.S.  He&#8217;s simply suggesting that we look at a whole slew of countries and use what works with those countries&#8217; systems to make a bigger, better Americanized health care system that guarantees care for everybody, especially children.  What in the heck is wrong with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kevin,&lt;br/&gt;  Imagine the Health care system 200yrs. ago when doctors would go from patient to patient dripping infectuos blood, performing the most advanced surgeries of the time. Now look at our medicine. Now imagine our government evolving in the same way. The point is not to replace one set of problems for another but to take the good things of other health care systems and disregard the rest. I would think as a man of science you would believe in the method. &lt;br/&gt;                     P.S. I can see your smug face to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kevin,<br />  Imagine the Health care system 200yrs. ago when doctors would go from patient to patient dripping infectuos blood, performing the most advanced surgeries of the time. Now look at our medicine. Now imagine our government evolving in the same way. The point is not to replace one set of problems for another but to take the good things of other health care systems and disregard the rest. I would think as a man of science you would believe in the method. <br />                     P.S. I can see your smug face to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to see how well covered the Moore bashers are. If you are self employed or have little or no coverage, then you couldn&#039;t possibly give the US healthcare system a thumbs-up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have to balance the &quot;some come to America for treatment&quot; with the commonly documented &quot;some go to Canada so they can get treatment at all&quot;. Even a self-employed lawyer from AZ had written about his family&#039;s slide into poverty attempting to pay for his cancer treatments. This is fair?? Now try being poor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you think we have nothing to learn from other country&#039;s successes, then you have your head in the sand (and are fully covered).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see how well covered the Moore bashers are. If you are self employed or have little or no coverage, then you couldn&#8217;t possibly give the US healthcare system a thumbs-up.</p>
<p>You have to balance the &#8220;some come to America for treatment&#8221; with the commonly documented &#8220;some go to Canada so they can get treatment at all&#8221;. Even a self-employed lawyer from AZ had written about his family&#8217;s slide into poverty attempting to pay for his cancer treatments. This is fair?? Now try being poor.</p>
<p>If you think we have nothing to learn from other country&#8217;s successes, then you have your head in the sand (and are fully covered).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rezen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rezen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Moore is a revolutionary and a true American patriot.</description>
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		<title>By: leftside</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a reply, paragraph by paragraph, to the extremely dishonest anti-Cuba propoganda piece by Mr Lowry in the National Review.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Moore demanded the 9/11 responders be treated like regular Cubans, and it appears they were. Moore says the trip was not about making Cuba out to be &quot;better&quot; than the US, but ask why we can&#039;t make the same committment to health care as Cuba has - available for everyone? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While there are indeed several profit-making facilities aimed primarily at health tourists in Cuba, the profits are funneled back into the national health system, unlike in other countries where private firms take the money. Cuba makes about $40 million a year off Presidents (like Haiti&#039;s Preval) and sports stard (like Maradona), which helps offset the added costs related to the embargo. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Calling the Cuban national system a “wasteland” is beyond reproach. Every respected organization, from the WHO, UNICEF, Lancet, World Bank, Kaiser Foundation, the UK House of Commons Health Select Committee, etc. have give the Cuban system gold stars – one of the “world’s best public services” concludes the BBC. This is regardless of the fact that, indeed, some supplies are sometimes in short supply or missing – often as a direct result of the embargo. “Pepto-Bismol” and “Tylenol” are American products that are not allowed to be imported without a very complicated and bureaucratic licensing process that the Cubans normally choose to bypass because of the added costs and delays. The embargo “dramatically harmed the health and nutrition of large numbers of Cubans” says the American Association of World Health. Nonetheless, Cuba has learned to produce undisputable health results with a minimum of resources and today produces, on its own, much of its medicines and equipment. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These statistical manipulations are apparently based on data taken during the country’s “special period” when Cuba lost 85% of its trade (fertilizers, fuel, feed), which decimated food production and food imports dropped by ½. Today Cuba can report being fully recovered from what was like the &quot;great depression&quot; x2. Malnutrition rates (2%) have fallen to become the lowest in Latin America (WHO, 2006). Average caloric consumption is up above 2,600 a day, well in line with other Latin countries. As for as “development of electrical power,” Cuba ranks 3rd only to Chile and Uruguay in terms of access to electricity (97% - Earth Trends). In 1959, just 7% had access to electrical power. So this seems to be total crap.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The abortion rate is again, way off. I imagine the statistics were based on the high point of 209,000 abortions in 1996. In 2004, after a coordinated effort to combat the issue, Cuba recorded a drop to two-thirds – to 67,277 (a rate lower than the US). The infant mortality distortion is obvious, but it is worth pointing out that pre-1959 record keeping was not a priority of the Government. Many infant deaths went totally unreported. To say Cuba has lost ground to the likes of post WW II France and Belgium is disingenous. Again, Cuba ranks above the US in this crucial figure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for suicide, islands are well known to have higher suicide rates than not. Cuba&#039;s last known figure, recorded during the &quot;special period&quot; found Cuba with better rates thank Japan, most of the newly capitalist countries, Finland, Belguim, (and Alaska, Montana and Nevada).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a reply, paragraph by paragraph, to the extremely dishonest anti-Cuba propoganda piece by Mr Lowry in the National Review.</p>
<p>Moore demanded the 9/11 responders be treated like regular Cubans, and it appears they were. Moore says the trip was not about making Cuba out to be &#8220;better&#8221; than the US, but ask why we can&#8217;t make the same committment to health care as Cuba has &#8211; available for everyone? </p>
<p>While there are indeed several profit-making facilities aimed primarily at health tourists in Cuba, the profits are funneled back into the national health system, unlike in other countries where private firms take the money. Cuba makes about $40 million a year off Presidents (like Haiti&#8217;s Preval) and sports stard (like Maradona), which helps offset the added costs related to the embargo. </p>
<p>Calling the Cuban national system a “wasteland” is beyond reproach. Every respected organization, from the WHO, UNICEF, Lancet, World Bank, Kaiser Foundation, the UK House of Commons Health Select Committee, etc. have give the Cuban system gold stars – one of the “world’s best public services” concludes the BBC. This is regardless of the fact that, indeed, some supplies are sometimes in short supply or missing – often as a direct result of the embargo. “Pepto-Bismol” and “Tylenol” are American products that are not allowed to be imported without a very complicated and bureaucratic licensing process that the Cubans normally choose to bypass because of the added costs and delays. The embargo “dramatically harmed the health and nutrition of large numbers of Cubans” says the American Association of World Health. Nonetheless, Cuba has learned to produce undisputable health results with a minimum of resources and today produces, on its own, much of its medicines and equipment. </p>
<p>These statistical manipulations are apparently based on data taken during the country’s “special period” when Cuba lost 85% of its trade (fertilizers, fuel, feed), which decimated food production and food imports dropped by ½. Today Cuba can report being fully recovered from what was like the &#8220;great depression&#8221; x2. Malnutrition rates (2%) have fallen to become the lowest in Latin America (WHO, 2006). Average caloric consumption is up above 2,600 a day, well in line with other Latin countries. As for as “development of electrical power,” Cuba ranks 3rd only to Chile and Uruguay in terms of access to electricity (97% &#8211; Earth Trends). In 1959, just 7% had access to electrical power. So this seems to be total crap.</p>
<p>The abortion rate is again, way off. I imagine the statistics were based on the high point of 209,000 abortions in 1996. In 2004, after a coordinated effort to combat the issue, Cuba recorded a drop to two-thirds – to 67,277 (a rate lower than the US). The infant mortality distortion is obvious, but it is worth pointing out that pre-1959 record keeping was not a priority of the Government. Many infant deaths went totally unreported. To say Cuba has lost ground to the likes of post WW II France and Belgium is disingenous. Again, Cuba ranks above the US in this crucial figure.</p>
<p>As for suicide, islands are well known to have higher suicide rates than not. Cuba&#8217;s last known figure, recorded during the &#8220;special period&#8221; found Cuba with better rates thank Japan, most of the newly capitalist countries, Finland, Belguim, (and Alaska, Montana and Nevada).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I see with letting the government pay for health care is that we won&#039;t know who is deciding what quality of life is and if they will or won&#039;t pay for certain things. I don&#039;t want george bush&#039;s croney&#039;s or any other politicians telling me what&#039;s good for me and my body. Also, it might be a way for the government to control reproductive rights. I think that system is way messed up but the government will mess it up more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I see with letting the government pay for health care is that we won&#8217;t know who is deciding what quality of life is and if they will or won&#8217;t pay for certain things. I don&#8217;t want george bush&#8217;s croney&#8217;s or any other politicians telling me what&#8217;s good for me and my body. Also, it might be a way for the government to control reproductive rights. I think that system is way messed up but the government will mess it up more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, I happen to enjoy Mr. Moore&#039;s films, and am looking forward to see &quot;Sicko&quot;.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have no dispute from me that our current health care system is in disarray.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, Mr. Moore&#039;s solution (I haven&#039;t seen the film, but I think it&#039;s safe to say) - that of a government-run single-payer system - simply exchanges our problems for a whole new set of problems.  Which may be even worse.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks,&lt;br/&gt;Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I happen to enjoy Mr. Moore&#8217;s films, and am looking forward to see &#8220;Sicko&#8221;.  </p>
<p>You have no dispute from me that our current health care system is in disarray.</p>
<p>However, Mr. Moore&#8217;s solution (I haven&#8217;t seen the film, but I think it&#8217;s safe to say) &#8211; that of a government-run single-payer system &#8211; simply exchanges our problems for a whole new set of problems.  Which may be even worse.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Kevin, looks like you&#039;re missing the point in your rush to discredit Moore.  I can see you now, sitting with a smug look and crossed arms, satisfied to take a jab at your favorite &quot;america hater&quot;.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The problem is, people like my family and I live in the constant knowledge that we&#039;re getting screwed by America&#039;s health care system.  It took me 6 months of calls to get my son&#039;s birth costs to be paid under my employers plan.  Now (as I&#039;m self employed), my second largest annual expense is healthcare for my family - and for that, I get almost no service whatsoever, just a prayer that if something goes really wrong, the provider won&#039;t deny me on some technicality.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The health care system and washington are letting hard working americans down.  Youre welcome to blast Moore all you want, but he&#039;s on the right side of this issue by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Kevin, looks like you&#8217;re missing the point in your rush to discredit Moore.  I can see you now, sitting with a smug look and crossed arms, satisfied to take a jab at your favorite &#8220;america hater&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The problem is, people like my family and I live in the constant knowledge that we&#8217;re getting screwed by America&#8217;s health care system.  It took me 6 months of calls to get my son&#8217;s birth costs to be paid under my employers plan.  Now (as I&#8217;m self employed), my second largest annual expense is healthcare for my family &#8211; and for that, I get almost no service whatsoever, just a prayer that if something goes really wrong, the provider won&#8217;t deny me on some technicality.</p>
<p>The health care system and washington are letting hard working americans down.  Youre welcome to blast Moore all you want, but he&#8217;s on the right side of this issue by me.</p>
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