Comments on: Free surgery gone awry http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74143 Anonymous Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:19:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74143 Given the rash of recent press about the troubled nature of a number of our domestic transplant programs, my comments are fully called for. This harkens back to the prior post and subsequent discussion about actually removing government interference in the organ procurement process. If one wishes to have a system in which motivation is truly not a question then take the money out of it for everyone involved. This a priori assumption of "good will" and "good dead" is exactly the form and type of system that is ripe for having problems. Objective evaluation is lost when we loose our ability or just as importantly our desire to question the system because of our assumptions.<br/><br/>Let us establish an important and underlying point here. The organs do not in any way, shape or form belong to the transplant team nor do they belong to any patient that is waiting on the transplant list. The organs are the sole property of the patient and given the current state of the patient, the disbursement of said organs is in the sole hands of the father of the patient.<br/><br/>~Crimanallopath~ Given the rash of recent press about the troubled nature of a number of our domestic transplant programs, my comments are fully called for. This harkens back to the prior post and subsequent discussion about actually removing government interference in the organ procurement process. If one wishes to have a system in which motivation is truly not a question then take the money out of it for everyone involved. This a priori assumption of “good will” and “good dead” is exactly the form and type of system that is ripe for having problems. Objective evaluation is lost when we loose our ability or just as importantly our desire to question the system because of our assumptions.

Let us establish an important and underlying point here. The organs do not in any way, shape or form belong to the transplant team nor do they belong to any patient that is waiting on the transplant list. The organs are the sole property of the patient and given the current state of the patient, the disbursement of said organs is in the sole hands of the father of the patient.

~Crimanallopath~

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74140 Anonymous Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:59:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74140 "Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members."<br/> <br/>That is really a cold, uncalled for statement. Those "vultures" are trying to save several lives with those organs. “Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members.”

That is really a cold, uncalled for statement. Those “vultures” are trying to save several lives with those organs.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74137 Anonymous Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74137 It must be frustrating to be a parent unable to communicate with the health care team. Translators, even when easily available, are a poor medium for communication. I have only rarely met translators who both translated rapidly (on the fly as each speaker would speak) and in a manner where I trusted that it was my words and the patient's words going back and forth rather than the translator's 'interpretation' of what each party was saying. <br/>They were told by their own docs at home that there was a 30 % mortality; Russian roulette with 2 bullets at best it was. There's no point in the family acting surprised or assuming negligence when the odds of this particular outcome are so high. It must be frustrating to be a parent unable to communicate with the health care team. Translators, even when easily available, are a poor medium for communication. I have only rarely met translators who both translated rapidly (on the fly as each speaker would speak) and in a manner where I trusted that it was my words and the patient’s words going back and forth rather than the translator’s ‘interpretation’ of what each party was saying.
They were told by their own docs at home that there was a 30 % mortality; Russian roulette with 2 bullets at best it was. There’s no point in the family acting surprised or assuming negligence when the odds of this particular outcome are so high.

]]> By: Andyhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74116 Andy Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74116 "This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members."<br/><br/>You forget there are people waiting to receive those organs too.<br/><br/>Seriously dude you go way too far with the hyperbole. “This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members.”

You forget there are people waiting to receive those organs too.

Seriously dude you go way too far with the hyperbole.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74110 Anonymous Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74110 "This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members."<br/><br/>No good deed goes unpunished. And those disgusting, purile patients are watching the clock waiting for organs such as these, shame on them! It is a shame that a brain transplant is not possible. Then again this poor kid would only be #2 on the list for such a procedure! “This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members.”

No good deed goes unpunished. And those disgusting, purile patients are watching the clock waiting for organs such as these, shame on them! It is a shame that a brain transplant is not possible. Then again this poor kid would only be #2 on the list for such a procedure!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74105 Anonymous Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:52:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74105 This place just wouldn't be any fun without the daily paranoid rant. Thanks for making my day Kevin! This place just wouldn’t be any fun without the daily paranoid rant. Thanks for making my day Kevin!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74104 Anonymous Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:25:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74104 From the Foxnews.com article on this story:<br/><br/>"Kurbanov said he will keep vigil, even though doctors say there is no chance for recovery and have asked to harvest the boy's organs for transplants. Kurbanov does not trust them, or the medical charts written in a language he doesn't understand."<br/><br/>This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members. <br/><br/>~Criminallopath~ From the Foxnews.com article on this story:

“Kurbanov said he will keep vigil, even though doctors say there is no chance for recovery and have asked to harvest the boy’s organs for transplants. Kurbanov does not trust them, or the medical charts written in a language he doesn’t understand.”

This is just sick. Vultures circling the body in hopes of taking the organs to line the pockets of the transplant team members.

~Criminallopath~

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/free-surgery-on-awry.html#comment-74093 Anonymous Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:27:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/free-surgery-gone-awry.html#comment-74093 You feel bad for the family. A few of the most satisfying cases I had as a resident were young kids from other country treated in our facility for free. They had surgeries done that hardly any other country in the world would do especially at no cost. I hope something like this doesn't diminish hospitals from doing these cases. One of them was a case of bladder extrophy. 16 hours of surgery with Ortho and Urology all completely donated by everybody. You feel bad for the family. A few of the most satisfying cases I had as a resident were young kids from other country treated in our facility for free. They had surgeries done that hardly any other country in the world would do especially at no cost. I hope something like this doesn’t diminish hospitals from doing these cases. One of them was a case of bladder extrophy. 16 hours of surgery with Ortho and Urology all completely donated by everybody.

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