Comments on: "Allergic to modern living" part 2 http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html medical blog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:15:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gasman http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74365 Gasman Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:54:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74365 Yes, she's whacko. <br/><br/>But the really crazy part is that we (society) is her enabler, going along with her nuttiness. <br/>If put to the test of blinded rechallenge with the EM fields she fears so much she would be unable to know when to be symptomatic. Her apparent sensitivity played out for the unsuspecting press is simple. Meet a reporter, announce that she feels poorly and it must be an electronic gadged (a fair bet that one is present). If one is then the reporter believes the connection, if one isn't, then she looks around her house until the 'cause' is found, thus again 'proving' the same. <br/>Like psychichs and others who run con games, sufficiently vague predictions and ready backup interpretations will sucker in the credulous every time. Yes, she’s whacko.

But the really crazy part is that we (society) is her enabler, going along with her nuttiness.
If put to the test of blinded rechallenge with the EM fields she fears so much she would be unable to know when to be symptomatic. Her apparent sensitivity played out for the unsuspecting press is simple. Meet a reporter, announce that she feels poorly and it must be an electronic gadged (a fair bet that one is present). If one is then the reporter believes the connection, if one isn’t, then she looks around her house until the ’cause’ is found, thus again ‘proving’ the same.
Like psychichs and others who run con games, sufficiently vague predictions and ready backup interpretations will sucker in the credulous every time.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74361 Anonymous Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:57:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74361 She's nuts. She’s nuts.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74350 Anonymous Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74350 Secondary Gain anyone?? Secondary Gain anyone??

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74348 Anonymous Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74348 Look at the benefits: all that attention. People coming from this newspaper and that to interview her (pencil and paper, please, no tape recorders, and no digital cameras either; they all emit RF.) You can claim disability and no one makes you work (and maybe that's a good thing.) Gotta be special. Need a special place to live. Need a special environment.<br/><br/>I agree with the poster above: some people enjoy ill health. Others just try to. Look at the benefits: all that attention. People coming from this newspaper and that to interview her (pencil and paper, please, no tape recorders, and no digital cameras either; they all emit RF.) You can claim disability and no one makes you work (and maybe that’s a good thing.) Gotta be special. Need a special place to live. Need a special environment.

I agree with the poster above: some people enjoy ill health. Others just try to.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74337 Anonymous Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:12:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74337 Isn't this ilk just allergic, 'er, sensitive to productive and contributory....LIFE? Isn’t this ilk just allergic, ‘er, sensitive to productive and contributory….LIFE?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74336 Anonymous Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:46:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74336 If it was a physical / biochemical action, it would be highly unlikely it would be responsive to such a huge range of wavelengths. I call total BS. She needs a butterfly net, not a Faraday cage. If it was a physical / biochemical action, it would be highly unlikely it would be responsive to such a huge range of wavelengths. I call total BS. She needs a butterfly net, not a Faraday cage.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74335 Anonymous Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:19:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74335 Some people just don't want to feel well. Maybe we should allow them the pleasure of being sick, but why do those of us who like our safe, modern technologies be forced to give them up?<br/><br/>If we just called these people lazy, or even hypocondriacs, we would sell less newspapers. Some people just don’t want to feel well. Maybe we should allow them the pleasure of being sick, but why do those of us who like our safe, modern technologies be forced to give them up?

If we just called these people lazy, or even hypocondriacs, we would sell less newspapers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74334 Anonymous Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74334 Maybe this is the real reason why I have such a great sense of wellbeing when I go camping in wilderness areas. Yeah, it must be it! I have EMR sensitivity syndrom. You think that I can collect disability and get check so I can live in the wilderness all the time without having to catch my own food? Maybe this is the real reason why I have such a great sense of wellbeing when I go camping in wilderness areas. Yeah, it must be it! I have EMR sensitivity syndrom. You think that I can collect disability and get check so I can live in the wilderness all the time without having to catch my own food?

]]> By: daedalus2u http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74331 daedalus2u Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:22:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74331 The symptoms of multiple chemical sensitivity seem an awful like those of acute low nitric oxide. <br/><br/>One of the things that regulates the cytochrome P450 enzymes that metabolize all these xenobiotic chemicals is NO, which inhibits it. The P450 enzymes are quite uncoupled, and so generates superoxide anion, which pulls down the local NO level and so disinhibits it, and so increases the metabolism of what ever the P450 enzyme is dealing with. <br/><br/>The P450 enzymes are mostly membrane bound. Would they be "wiggled" by EM fields? And so generate more or less NO or superoxide? There is hysteresis and feedback in the nitric oxide synthase system. If NOS becomes uncoupled, the zinc thiolate couple gets oxidized and the enzyme becomes uncoupled and generates superoxide instead of NO. <br/><br/>Of course,<a HREF="http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2007/04/placebo-and-nocebo-effects.html" REL="nofollow"> the placebo effect is mediated by NO</a>. The symptoms of multiple chemical sensitivity seem an awful like those of acute low nitric oxide.

One of the things that regulates the cytochrome P450 enzymes that metabolize all these xenobiotic chemicals is NO, which inhibits it. The P450 enzymes are quite uncoupled, and so generates superoxide anion, which pulls down the local NO level and so disinhibits it, and so increases the metabolism of what ever the P450 enzyme is dealing with.

The P450 enzymes are mostly membrane bound. Would they be “wiggled” by EM fields? And so generate more or less NO or superoxide? There is hysteresis and feedback in the nitric oxide synthase system. If NOS becomes uncoupled, the zinc thiolate couple gets oxidized and the enzyme becomes uncoupled and generates superoxide instead of NO.

Of course, the placebo effect is mediated by NO.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-74330 Anonymous Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:08:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2007/04/allergic-to-modern-living-part-2.html#comment-74330 On my psych rotation I met people who had solved this problem by wearing aluminum foil helmuts. On my psych rotation I met people who had solved this problem by wearing aluminum foil helmuts.

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