Going contrarian on Gardasil

#1 Dinosaur takes a minority view on the HPV vaccine and compares it to preventing Salmonella:

That’s my argument against HPV vaccination. I’m not disputing that HPV — left untreated for many years (10-12) — can cause cervical cancer. I’m not disputing that Gardasil can reduce (but not eliminate) the chances of contracting high risk strains of HPV. But early stage HPV disease is eminently treatable, and completely avoidable via abstinence (of which I am an advocate in principle, although not a “Just Say No” fanatic.) Finally, it is virtually impossible to die of cervical cancer unless you never see a doctor.

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RJS
From a purely economical point of view, giving the vaccine makes more sense than treating cervical cancer, no matter how minor.
I have yet to see a real, compelling, scientific reason why Gardasil shouldn’t be strongly advised, if not mandated.
His two posts (and many of the comments) amount to little more than an anti-Merck rant. His grasp of economics is incredibly myopic at best, and downright non-existant at worst.
Anonymous
From a purely economical point of view, giving the vaccine makes more sense than treating cervical cancer, no matter how minor.

How many people you need to vaccinate in order to prevent one case of cervical cancer? Did you factor it in your calculations? Yes, your grasp of economics is great… Maybe, but you sure aren’t familiar with math. This is the problem with similar statements with regard to chronic desease prevention. People fail to factor in number needed to treat.
The women will still need to have pap smears, so you are not going to save on this. The number of abnormal results will decrease, so you may save here. On the flip side, you don’t know if the vaccine will provide lifetime immunity.
As far as being mandatory, before you mandate a medical intervention you need to demonstrate benefit for others, not just the person involved. Given that cervical cancer is not a major health threat and that you aren’t going to vaccinate everyone, including older carriers or boys, how are you going to get herd immunity here?
Anonymous
His grasp of economics is incredibly myopic at best, and downright non-existant at worst.

Well, since your grasp of economics is so great, would you care to demonstrate it for us. Show us the cost of treating about a few thousand or so cases of cervical cancer that will be prevented and compare it to the cost of vaccinating millions.
Now, how do you know economics if you failed at basic multiplication?
For the record – I am all for this vaccine, and I would have it if I were younger. But let’s be honest, shall we?
mhatrw
In medical cost vs. benefit modeling (which strongly informs national medical public policy making and far too strongly informs the medical policies of HMOs), the most critical component is a value called “cost per life year gained.”
If the cost per life year gained is under $50,000, that is generally considered a decent investment by US medical policy makers. If “cost per life year” gained is over $100,000, that is generally considered a wasteful medical policy because that money could surely be put to much better use elsewhere. Yes, this is cruel and heartless to some degree, but wide scale medical cost allocations do need to be made and, more relevantly, are continually made using these cost plus risk vs. benefit analyses. Think HMOs. Now consider why pap smears, blood tests and urine tests aren’t recommended every month for everyone. Testing monthly could definitely save more than a few lives, and there is no measurable associated medical risk. But the cost would be astronomical versus the benefit over the entire US population when comparing these monthly tests to other therapies, procedures and medicines.
Now on to GARDASIL. By the time you pay doctors a small fee to inventory and deliver GARDASIL in three doses, you are talking about paying about $500 for this vaccine. And because even in the best case scenario GARDASIL can confer protection against only 70% of cervical cancer cases, GARDASIL cannot ever obsolete the HPV screening test that today is a major component of most US women’s annually recommended pap smears. These tests screen for 36 nasty strains of HPV, while GARDASIL confers protection against just four strains of HPV.
Now let’s consider GARDASIL’s best case scenario at the moment — about $500 per vaccine, 100% lifetime protection against all four HPV strains (we currently have no evidence for any protection over five years), and no risk of any medical complications for any subset of the population (Merck’s GARADSIL studies were too small and short to make this determination for adults, these studies used potentially dangerous alum injections as their “placebo control” and GARDASIL was hardly even tested on little kids). Now, using these best case scenario assumptions for GARDASIL, let’s compare the projected situation of a woman who gets a yearly HPV screening test starting at age 18 to a woman who gets a yearly HPV screening test starting at age 18 plus the three GARDASIL injections at age 11 to 12. Even if you include all of the potential medical cost savings from the projected reduction in genital wart and HPV dysplasia removal procedures and expensive cervical cancer procedures, medicines and therapies plus all of the indirect medical costs associated with all these ailments and net all of these savings against GARDASIL’s costs, the best case numbers for these analyses come out to well over $200,000 per life year gained — no matter how far the hopeful pro-GARDASIL assumptions that underpin these projections are tweaked in GARDASIL’s favor.
Several studies have been done, and they have been published in several prestigious medical journals:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/jama.290.6.781
http://tinyurl.com/2ovy95
http://tinyurl.com/2tbuma
None of these studies even so much as consider a strategy of GARDASIL plus a regimen of annual HPV screenings starting at age 18 to be worth mentioning (except to note how ridiculously expensive this would be compared to other currently recommended life extending procedures, medicines and therapies) because the cost per life year gained is simply far too high. What these studies instead show is that a regimen of GARDASIL plus delayed (to age 21, 22, 23, 25 or 27) biennial or triennial HPV screening tests may — depending on what hopeful assumptions about GARDASIL’s long term efficacy and risks are used — hopefully result in a modest cost per life year savings compared to annual HPV screening tests starting at age 18.
If you don’t believe me about this, just ask any responsible OB-GYN or medical model expert. Now, why do I think all of this is problematic?
1) Nobody is coming clean (except to the small segment of the US population that understands medical modeling) that the push for widespread mandatory HPV vaccination is based on assuming that we can use the partial protection against cervical cancer that these vaccines hopefully confer for hopefully a long, long time period to back off from recommending annual HPV screening tests starting at age 18 — in order to save money, not lives.
2) Even in the best case scenario, the net effect is to give billions in tax dollars to Merck so HMOs and PPOs can save billions on HPV screening tests in the future.
3) These studies don’t consider any potential costs associated with any potential GARDASIL risks. Even the slightest direct or indirect medical costs associated with any potential GARDASIL risks increase the cost per life year gained TREMENDOUSLY and can even easily change the entire analysis to cost per life year lost. Remember that unlike most medicines and therapies, vaccines are administered to a huge number of otherwise healthy people — and, at least in this case, 99.99% of whom would never contract cervical cancer even without its protection.
4) These studies don’t take in account the fact that better and more regular HPV screening tests have reduced the US cervical cancer rate by about 25% a decade over the last three decades and that there is no reason to believe that this trend would not continue in the future, especially if we used a small portion of the money we are planning on spending on GARDASIL to promote free annual HPV screening tests for all low income uninsured US women.
5) The studies assume that any constant cervical cancer death rate (rather than the downward trending cervical cancer death rate we have today) that results in a reduced cost per life year gained equates to sound medical public policy.
As I said before, if any of you don’t believe me about this, please simply ask your OB-GYN how the $500 cost of GARDASIL can be justified on a cost per life year gained basis if we don’t delay the onset of HPV screening tests and back off from annual HPV screening tests to biennial or triennial HPV screening tests.
The recommendations are already in: http://tinyurl.com/33p9q6
The USPSTF strongly recommends … beginning screening within 3 years of onset of sexual activity or age 21 (whichever comes first) and screening at least every 3 years …

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