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A woman dies after receiving 8 grams of Dilantin

The doctor took the fall for the nurse's mistake. The nurse apparently ignored several red flags:
Rohart, an ER specialist for eight years and a doctor since 1989, said he ran tests and prescribed 800 milligrams of the anti-seizure drug Dilantin. "She and I were laughing when I left for the day," Rohart said.

But Cooper instead administered 8000 mg (eight grams), quickly stopping Plass' heart, hospital officials said. The fatal dosage is two to five grams.

"Her husband called me to say they were releasing her from the hospital," Peggy Plass said. "Then 10 minutes later he called to say she was dead."

The correct dose required 3.2 vials of the drug. Cooper gave Plass 32 vials, hospital administrator Joe Scott said. To get that many, she had to search the halls and take every vial from three computerized drug-dispensing machines, he said. "That would be a big red flag," Scott said.

All the Dilantin didn't fit in one intravenous bag, so Cooper hooked up two, one in each arm, Scott said. "That would be another big red flag," he said.

Cooper never double-checked or questioned the amount, Scott said. Nor did she explain her error to hospital officials, he said.

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  1. Anonymous Anonymous  

    Some of these kids I see in nursing majors here in Ohio really worry me. It seems like they just don't care about anything other than their social lives. To be blunt, some people are just stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have this kind of power.
  2. Anonymous Anonymous  

    I wonder if she still has her job. That's scary stuff.
  3. Anonymous Anonymous  

    "Some of these kids I see in nursing majors here in Ohio really worry me. It seems like they just don't care about anything other than their social lives. To be blunt, some people are just stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have this kind of power."

    Easy to say, but there's already a shortage of 100,000 nurses in this country, and who the hell wants to be an ER nurse? You get spit upon, physically and verbally assaulted, never thanked, and every other department dumps on you. There's only so many non-English speaking foreigners we can import to do this thankless abuse-filled job.
  4. Anonymous David  

    Donna, the article says the nurse was fired also.
  5. Anonymous Anonymous  

    So, Anon. 11:48 a.m., do you think this justifies this level of negligence?

    I think the vast majority of nurses are caring and competent. So to paint them all with the same brush is unfair.

    This mistake was a whopper, though. And at some point the system needs to stop making excuses.
  6. Anonymous Richard the Insane Squirrel  

    Why would a doctor treat benzo-withdrawal seizures with a sodium channel blocker, rather than good ol' diazepam? To this non-doctor it seems a bit like treating a muscle cramp with curare.
  7. Anonymous Anonymous  

    I once had a new nurse give 3 mg of epinephrine IV (instead of 0.3 mg subcutaneosly) to an awake asthma patient. He won't ever do that again, but he turned out to be one of our best nurses.
  8. Anonymous Anonymous  

    I'd call the pharmacy if I needed 3 vials of a medication to give the ordered dose. I simply cannot imagine why this nurse would gather 32 vials and NOT check with anyone. It makes no sense to me at all -- and goes against everything I've been taught about medication administration.

    I can't help but believe that there's more to the story if the physician was also fired, though. I'd love to be able to actually see that order sheet.
  9. Anonymous Anonymous  

    She went to the ER because she ran out of her Dilantin and did not have health insurance to see a PCP. Lack of health insurance kills. The ER is not necessarily a safety net but a death trap.
  10. Anonymous jb  

    1. Giving that much medication was criminal negligence on the part of the nurse. To give 32 of any dosage form (pill, capsule, bottle, vial) with no questioning of the situation is just plain wrong. No high school dropout mother would give her kid 32 of anything. Even if the doctor mistakenly wrote for 8 grams, nurses are (appropriately) trained to question unusual orders. This was a very unusual order.
    2. Firing the doctor will cost them big time. Unless there is evidence that he insisted on the humongous dose, there may be grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit. If this occurred in an "employment at-will" state, the termination may have been legal, but the hospital my find it difficult to keep its ER staffed with ER physicians.
    3. Dilantin generic is 30 cents each at retail. Enough with the "Lack of health insurance kills" already. This is not to excuse what happened. As presented, this was 100% the fault of the nurse who administered the drug. Spreading the blame around by saying it's "America's fault" because we don't want to wait 6 months for a cardiology consultation like the Canadians will not bring Mrs. Plass back to life, but it will add to the considerable confusion that these types of claims engender.
  11. Anonymous Anonymous  

    "So, Anon. 11:48 a.m., do you think this justifies this level of negligence?

    I think the vast majority of nurses are caring and competent. So to paint them all with the same brush is unfair.

    This mistake was a whopper, though. And at some point the system needs to stop making excuses."

    No, I was just pointing out that there is a major shortage of nurses, they don't get any respect, and to add to it, most of these medical errors are systems issues, but instead of fixing the system, our American Sue-crazy mentality tells us to find one individual, ie Nurse or Doctor, blame that one person, and leave the broken system in place. What if this hospital had a policy where a second nurse had to sign off on the med?
  12. Anonymous Anonymous  

    So it's everyone else's fault that a health care professional didn't do their job, Anon 5:35?

    Have you ever taken responsibility for anything?
  13. Anonymous Anonymous  

    News flash: Sometimes you *do* need to hold one individual accountable when they stray this far outside the bounds of prudence and standards of care.

    Safe systems and doublechecks are not a substitute for critical thinking and independent judgment.

    In any case, according to the article, none of her coworkers thought to question her, even though they saw she was searching all over the hospital for those 32 vials of Dilantin. So a doublecheck might well have failed in this case.

    I for one would like to see a happy medium between blaming every individual involved in an error and excusing every error as a systems problem.

    All errors are not created the same; some are more egregious than others.
  14. Anonymous Anonymous  

    re: "So it's everyone else's fault that a health care professional didn't do their job, Anon 5:35?

    Have you ever taken responsibility for anything?"

    CJDlite when do you ever have anything constructive to say? Is being anonymouse devil's advocate how you get your rocks off? Have you ever been a health care professional? Have you ever even bothered to look at what is wrong with the system and how the present system of law does nothing to correct it? The nurse rightly lost her job and probably will never work in this field again. A husband lost his wife and and children lost their mother. The sad fact is if this did go to trial (it didn't) you can bet the ER doc would have his ass sued...even though he did nothing wrong. When will YOU ever be anything more than a fly on the wall?
  15. Anonymous Anonymous  

    Probably around the same time YOU take some responsibility for your situation and stop whining.
  16. Anonymous Anonymous  

    about what I expected nothing ever constructive to say. You wouldn't know "responsibility" if it bit you in the ass.
  17. Anonymous Anonymous  

    I am duly chastised by the toughest anonymouse in cyberspace.
  18. Anonymous Anonymous  

    For starters attitudes need to change. When I was hospitalized I was given the wrong medication at 3:00 in the morning. When I looked at it I knew it did not look at all like the previous meds of the same kind. Before taking I questioned the nurse if this was really my medication. She asked me my name, I told her, she then grabbed them from my hand, glared at me and told me "Hell No" they aren't yours. Her actions and remarks implied i did something wrong instead of her refusing to double check things.

    Nurses really need to have more discipline that what they obviously receive. They blame everyone except themselves when they make a mistake.
  19. Anonymous Anonymous  

    We need more information on 1 - the MD order and 2 - why the nurse did not question or refuse to give that dose. Is there a cultural element to this Nurse or institution where you dont question the doctor. Is critical thinking encouragee with the Nursing staff? My antidotal experience is when working with non-assertive nurses not willing to question a order or their own jusdgment is that I feel obligated to watch them closely as I have interviened a number of times preventing serious errors in the ER (although none as bad as this situation). The most dangerous nurse is one who does not critically think, one that just does without questioning.
  20. Anonymous Anonymous  

    Anon 11:34 -- The doctor ordered the correct dosage, the nurse gave 10x the correct dose.

    I suspect the employer fired the doc for contacting the family directly. for our ER group, that would be a serious violation of our risk management procedures. A meeting with the family can be arranged for a disclosure or discussion (or apology) but a personal, out-of-channel phone call would *not* be a good idea. I doubt I would fire a doc for it, but if I told a doc not to, and he did anyway, it would not be beyond the pale.

    He may win his suit by playing the whistle-blower card.
  21. Anonymous Anonymous  

    Is there a cultural element to this Nurse or institution where you dont question the doctor. Is critical thinking encouragee with the Nursing staff?

    You have to overcome cultural barriers to work in some fields. Not questioning an order is okay when you work at a grocery store, its not okay when you work in an ER.

    This woman should definitely loose her license to practice. There were so many mistakes made:
    1) I'm not a nurse, but AFAIK Dilantin isn't an uncommon drug in the ER. She should have had a concept about what dosage range to give. She obviously didn't.
    2) She had to give thirty-two vials of a medication.
    3) She cleared out, I think, three Pyxis machines to get the vials.
    4) She had two give it in two IV bags.

    Unfortunately, it looks like her license has not been suspended nor does she have any disciplines.
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