The alternative to tort reform: No doctor

January 25, 2007

Just ask residents in Hawaii where physician access is at a premium.



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{ 20 comments }

1 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 9:58 am

Kevin’s got a compadre – another doctor willing to admit he just wants to be paid better and will do whatever it takes.

It’s so refreshing!

2 Criminallopath January 25, 2007 at 10:05 am

Have any of you given some serious thought to the following: At some point the blackmail and extortion tactics will stop working even with the soft-minded American populace. Does it not concern any of you that instead of forking over more money or giving up more of their rights that the populace may just say enough and instead push to revamp the entire system?

3 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 10:41 am

Hmmm. It seems single payer isn’t the only system that has doctor shortages. Huh. Who’d a thunk it?

4 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 11:36 am

Resentment of others’ perceived wealth from the same ravenous mouths that want to eat on someone else’s dime.

5 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 11:40 am

Anon 9:58 – What wrong with that? Don;t you want to make more money? Why should a physician be prohibited from pursuing the American dream? Why do you think it is abnormal for a physician to be unhappy that his insurance premium in one town is ~250,000 more than in another town? If you had the opportunity to increase your income 250,000 by moving, would you do it? Would you be a bad person, selfish, greedy, and uncaring if you did? What if you were told that your premium was increasing an amount approximately equal to you income? Would you complain, or just go ahead and rely on the kindness of people like you to provide food and shelter so you can copntinue to provide your service for free?

You seem to think that physicians should be happy with wehatever they get becuase to seek, want, need, or expect more is unethical, selfish, greedy and uncaring. Additionally, you think doctors should be chained to their current locale, their revenues capped so that if the conditions are unfavorable, to hell with ‘em, they should suck it up, because YOU need health care.

6 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 11:42 am

Uhhhhh… Actually Hawaii does have single payer healthcare or very close to it … That was kind of the purpose of the article … why do you think they are calling for an investigation of the government to see where the money is going from the taxes … that’s not just medicare and medicaid they are talking about.

7 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 11:51 am

“Anon 9:58 – What wrong with that? “

Nothing at all is wrong with wanting to be paid more. Trying to do it on the backs of the victims of malpractice who are injured through no fault of their own is a little unseemly, but hey, you have to live with yourselves.

I’m not sure about your second paragraph. There are a lot of strawmen in there. I certainly never said any of those things.

8 Criminallopath January 25, 2007 at 12:12 pm

Anon 9:58

On one hand we see this pabulum of “special bond” between the provider and patient, hypocritical oath and “do no harm” nonsense. If responsibility is to be commensurate with the privileges derived from the above, then abandoning existing patients for purely fiscal reasons is unacceptable. Empowering the legal system to carve out a nice oligopoly over the health care system also has its drawbacks. The same legally empowered system can turn on the providers. Those in the People’s Republik of Kalifornia are finding this out. For years various provider groups have supported every junk tax scheme that puts money in their pockets. The same system, having sucked the rest of the tax payers dry, is now turning on them.

9 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 12:19 pm

“They have a single payer system and on top of that they have outrageous tort.”

What is an “outrageous tort”? Does Hawaii have more claims per capita? In your review of those claims, are they unwarranted?

Does the high cost of living in general in Hawaii have anything to do with this? Or did you just seize on this one statistic and that’s all you needed? Kinda like saying that no one lives near Chernobyl because the schools aren’t very good.

10 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 12:40 pm

anon 12:19

Prove to me that people don’t live near Chernobyl because the schools aren’t good. I want to see the data. Without data backing up your point I will not believe what you are saying. I demand to see the proof.

11 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 12:44 pm

It’s sarcasm. Designed to illustrate the idiocy of taking one statistic and (mis)using it to make global statements.

12 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 12:45 pm

I shouldn’t even say statistic, because the original post offered no support at all for its claims.

13 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 2:42 pm

Why not just go bare in HI?

14 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Most people in this country are more than willing to move to another town or state if doing so increases their family income. Not only willing, we do it all the time. It’s absurd to think doctors shouldn’t/won’t do the same. Even more absurd to even imply they have an obligation not to consider such a move.

Few career choices require the number of years of training and mountain of debt as the medical profession.

Also: a plumber who whines that doctors make too much money won’t worry about charging the poor exorbitant prices for their services. Basically, every worker is out to earn the most he can and feels perfectly entitled to, as he should.

But what really ticks me off is that most of the illnesses people run to the doctor for are brought on by lifestyle choices, but no one wants to accept that responsibility. We just demand that doctors be available to clean up our messes. For free, or close to it. Herds of whiny morons.

15 Anonymous January 25, 2007 at 8:03 pm

“Herds of whiny morons.”

Sounds like you need to take a xanax abd find a new profession…

16 Anonymous January 26, 2007 at 12:03 am

“Few career choices require the number of years of training and mountain of debt as the medical profession. “

Few career choices pay as much, either. To whom much is given, much is expected. Who’s the whiner again?

17 Anonymous January 26, 2007 at 10:33 am

Jesus christ, if it’s that bad, why are you a doctor??? LEAVE! I’m sure your patients wouldn’t give a sh*t.

18 Anonymous January 26, 2007 at 12:27 pm

“Few career choices pay as much, either. To whom much is given, much is expected. Who’s the whiner again?”

Says who, those who are envious and want to take what they would rather not pay for? That is the rationalization of the self-righteous thief: nothing worth paying for isn’t better had when simply stolen.

19 Anonymous January 26, 2007 at 11:25 pm

You can go anyway, around any group of men, and you will not hear them complain about money to the extent that physicians do.

People are sick of hearing you complain about it all the time. If you all had your way, we would have to sign work contracts that our paychecks be on direct deposit to the bank accounts of our physicians. Even then you would probably demand the work week hours ,for your patients, be increased by atleast 50 %..Talk about entitlements, you guys think you are some how entitled to all the money from all the people.

20 Anonymous January 28, 2007 at 10:12 pm

“Talk about entitlements, you guys think you are some how entitled to all the money from all the people.”

Certainly no more sense of entitlement than there is in large segments of the population who feel entitled to professional services for free.

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