Comments on: Why we suck at lobbying http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69511 Anonymous Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:59:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69511 Hi,<br/><br/>in response to <br/>"Keep that in mind the next time you need open heart surgery....I'm sure the guy who fixes your car is JUST as qualified to do your bypass surgery as the average cardiothoracic surgeon, since there's no DIFFERENCE between clinical medicine and other lines of work...."<br/><br/>I think there is a very good question underlying this, and one that more and more Americans are going to be forced to confront given ageing/costs:<br/><br/>The question being in a medical situation for yourself or family what reassurances would allow you to trust the provider?<br/><br/>for our family, my father has had two overseas surgeries- the reassurance that we received was open access to surgeon records- ie success rates, discipline action, and number of actual surgeries/technique.<br/><br/>So would you trust a mechanic to perform surgery if they had the stats to back it up?<br/>(or the flipside)<br/>Would you trust a Harvard trained surgeon if they refused to provide their stats?<br/><br/>here is one possible market answer:<br/>http://tinyurl.com/yhss2c <br/><br/>Further, I think this is a long overdue question, but due to successful lobbying one the market was not allowed to answer. Hi,

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“Keep that in mind the next time you need open heart surgery….I’m sure the guy who fixes your car is JUST as qualified to do your bypass surgery as the average cardiothoracic surgeon, since there’s no DIFFERENCE between clinical medicine and other lines of work….”

I think there is a very good question underlying this, and one that more and more Americans are going to be forced to confront given ageing/costs:

The question being in a medical situation for yourself or family what reassurances would allow you to trust the provider?

for our family, my father has had two overseas surgeries- the reassurance that we received was open access to surgeon records- ie success rates, discipline action, and number of actual surgeries/technique.

So would you trust a mechanic to perform surgery if they had the stats to back it up?
(or the flipside)
Would you trust a Harvard trained surgeon if they refused to provide their stats?

here is one possible market answer:
http://tinyurl.com/yhss2c

Further, I think this is a long overdue question, but due to successful lobbying one the market was not allowed to answer.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69505 Anonymous Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:01:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69505 There you again anon. Tell me when is the last time you took a pay cut because of a federal entity's decision. Most of us would love the free market approach. What a novel concept being fully payed for your work. There you again anon. Tell me when is the last time you took a pay cut because of a federal entity’s decision. Most of us would love the free market approach. What a novel concept being fully payed for your work.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69501 Anonymous Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69501 yeah go CARTEL<br/><br/>because i love living with totalitarianism !!<br/><br/>democracy, free markets, open competition, those are just buzzwords I pretend to believe in...<br/><br/>secretly i dream of being better than everyone else, and not having to compete or innovate to survive in a dynamic market yeah go CARTEL

because i love living with totalitarianism !!

democracy, free markets, open competition, those are just buzzwords I pretend to believe in…

secretly i dream of being better than everyone else, and not having to compete or innovate to survive in a dynamic market

]]> By: DBRhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69487 DBR Sun, 10 Dec 2006 04:16:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69487 "...more and more people are realizing that clinical medicine is no different than any other line of work and that its practitioners are no more worthy of adulation than any other person in any other line of work."<br/><br/>Keep that in mind the next time you need open heart surgery....I'm sure the guy who fixes your car is JUST as qualified to do your bypass surgery as the average cardiothoracic surgeon, since there's no DIFFERENCE between clinical medicine and other lines of work....<br/><br/>One has to wonder how many medical schools rejected Criminallopath before he/she finally gave up.... “…more and more people are realizing that clinical medicine is no different than any other line of work and that its practitioners are no more worthy of adulation than any other person in any other line of work.”

Keep that in mind the next time you need open heart surgery….I’m sure the guy who fixes your car is JUST as qualified to do your bypass surgery as the average cardiothoracic surgeon, since there’s no DIFFERENCE between clinical medicine and other lines of work….

One has to wonder how many medical schools rejected Criminallopath before he/she finally gave up….

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69442 Anonymous Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:42:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69442 Medical training is still longer then your 10 year FSA plan in many cases. <br/><br/>Family Medicine = 11 years education with many hard exams. That is just a family doc! Until you are are physician it will be hard for you to talk about how hard physicians work or how hard their tests are without sounding uninformed...<br/><br/>The reason why anyone can try to join the FSA is because you have no impact on everyday lives and don't kill people if you screw up...<br/><br/>PS... Math majors surfing medical boards comes across a little strange... maybe even jealous ;) Medical training is still longer then your 10 year FSA plan in many cases.

Family Medicine = 11 years education with many hard exams. That is just a family doc! Until you are are physician it will be hard for you to talk about how hard physicians work or how hard their tests are without sounding uninformed…

The reason why anyone can try to join the FSA is because you have no impact on everyday lives and don’t kill people if you screw up…

PS… Math majors surfing medical boards comes across a little strange… maybe even jealous ;)

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69441 Anonymous Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:55:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69441 Oh please! Get your head out of your a** before you suffocate. Better yet call a Yellow Cab outta here with your yellow journalism. Oh please! Get your head out of your a** before you suffocate. Better yet call a Yellow Cab outta here with your yellow journalism.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69437 Anonymous Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:15:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69437 so docs think they train so hard...<br/><br/>try becoming a Fellow of the Society of Actuaries (FSA), ~10yrs to pass 8 high level math tests, at avg pay until you understand the heart of the industry, and egalitarianism-> meaning no artificial scarcity, anyone can take those tests, get qualified, and compete in the market.<br/><br/>MDs are full of it, no lobbying ability, total nonsense!<br/><br/>heres hoping you feudal @#$# drive taxis one day ! so docs think they train so hard…

try becoming a Fellow of the Society of Actuaries (FSA), ~10yrs to pass 8 high level math tests, at avg pay until you understand the heart of the industry, and egalitarianism-> meaning no artificial scarcity, anyone can take those tests, get qualified, and compete in the market.

MDs are full of it, no lobbying ability, total nonsense!

heres hoping you feudal @#$# drive taxis one day !

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69422 Anonymous Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:14:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69422 Don't worry, I'm aware of your strange relationship with the insurers. On one hand, you don't trust the health insurers at all. On the other, the words of your liability carriers are gospel, and send you marching to the streets repeating them.<br/><br/>Basically, like everyone, you're driven by the dollar. And if repeating the words of one part of the insurance industry allows you to make more money, so be it. Regardless of the hypocrisy of then filing suit yourselves to make more money off another part of the insurance industry. Don’t worry, I’m aware of your strange relationship with the insurers. On one hand, you don’t trust the health insurers at all. On the other, the words of your liability carriers are gospel, and send you marching to the streets repeating them.

Basically, like everyone, you’re driven by the dollar. And if repeating the words of one part of the insurance industry allows you to make more money, so be it. Regardless of the hypocrisy of then filing suit yourselves to make more money off another part of the insurance industry.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69420 Anonymous Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69420 You make yourself sound ignorant when you talk about physicians and insurance companies as one. If you can't see the insurance lobby at work then you need to look a little bit harder. Currently, in my area of the country 20,000 physicians are bringing a class action lawsuit against our largest insurance provider... Physicians and insurance companies are not one and the same... You make yourself sound ignorant when you talk about physicians and insurance companies as one. If you can’t see the insurance lobby at work then you need to look a little bit harder. Currently, in my area of the country 20,000 physicians are bringing a class action lawsuit against our largest insurance provider… Physicians and insurance companies are not one and the same…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69419 Anonymous Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/12/why-we-suck-at-lobbying.html#comment-69419 I don't see insurance executives at the marches on the state capitals or testifying for the legislation. Just physicians. Maybe it's an animal farm situation and it's become difficult to tell the difference anymore. I don’t see insurance executives at the marches on the state capitals or testifying for the legislation. Just physicians. Maybe it’s an animal farm situation and it’s become difficult to tell the difference anymore.

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