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I never understood the point in this “doctor-assisted” suicide thing. If you want to commit suicide, fine with me, but why not do it yourself, why bring other, innocent bystanders into your sin? This urge to involve others demonstrates to me the selfish, egocentrical state of mind that lies behind so many suicides. A real self-murderer just does it, alone and effectively.
Dr. I clearly has some issues with humans determining how and when to complete their life. There does come a time for many severly debilitated persons with unrelievable suffering to decide to move on. Death is certain. When ongoing life becomes unbearable, why not embrace the inevitable. Right now, statistically speaking, I got 40 years or so more, and I’m on the whole pretty happy with the whole life thing. But that could all change in the blink of an eye.
So if one chooses to embrace the inevitable, why should they have to use the somewhat blunt instraments available to the public? Handguns, messy and sometimes difficult to come by; poisons, often quite unpleasant effects and inconsistently effective; other means might endanger the public (jumping off things, driving into walls etc.) Quite possibly a moribund person might be incapable of effecting one of these mechanisms. Thus the rational for simple, effective and humane means available for the dying.
That there is a symantic change suggests the group wishes to start a language war similar to abortion (i.e. ‘pro-life’ vs ‘pro-choice’. Because what real american is anti-life or anti-choice?)
I don’t fear the reaper, and I think people should have effective and compassionate options to terminate their lives should that be their desire. As to whether a physician choses to participate, this is a personal decision. It should not be legislated.
By mentioning sin, I suspect his reasons stem from his religious beliefs.
As far as a suicide being a selfish act, I think it’s selfish to resort to blunt tools in your own home and leave it up to your “loved ones” to find you and to clean up the mess. What kind of person does that to their friends/family? If suicide/euthanasia for the terminally ill can be justified, surely “doing it right” can be justified as well.
Dr. Isberg you are a tad cold. If someone is suffering, in terrible pain and no hope to get better, why do you think it selfish of them to want assisted suicide? Should they just pick up a gun and put it in their mouth? Then I guess their spouse, son or daughter could come along and clean up the mess?
If someone is terminal and in pain do you think they have alot of energy to plan a self murder while in the hospital? Do you want your hospitalized patients having access to deadly weapons? So, how do you propose they go about getting this accomplished (alone and effectively) in such a weakened state?
euthansia is euthansia no matter how you say it,abotion is baby bashing, its not my place to tell people what they can or cannot do but lets at least call it what it is,whether you withhold treatments or actively administer or precribe meds for this purpose, it is what it is, whether you do a prepartum procedure to end life or swing it by the feet as has been done throughout history, lets not think its anything but what it is and be honest to ourselves and our society,as this harms those left behind ie relatives or parents, when they realize truely what has actually happened,so lets not mince words, it does more harm than good
TAPayne: You really need to learn some grammer before you post here. You say you tutor students? Hopefully you’re not teaching them how to write. You’re raving tangents are one long run-on sentence.
petty personal attack?how common
I am in favor of self suicide than assisted. Of course it would be premeditated, thoughtfully planned to exclude a surprise finding by other(s). I also belive that this would be concieved before a person is unable to carry out their agenda from a to z. I have been through breast cancer and I have other medical problems which eventually will bring me to the point of others caring for and suffering through my delema. I would not allow others to suffer as I did and my family when our father suffered so, for so long. He was a fighter until the end, but I may be considered a coward to some, while I choose to go in an expediant, less expensive way to the other side. At the age of 25 I have a near death experience so this may be why in my senior years that I agree with Dr. Isberg
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