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	<title>Comments on: NYC docs ditching the white coat for designer suits</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cosmetic plastic surgeons do not wear lab coats during consultations because their patients are healthy and not requiring treatment at that time. The initial visit is the opportunity for the patient to discuss their concerns while being examined by the surgeon. The chaparone who attends the surgeon at this time is often neatly dressed in business attire.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By being well dressed, the cosmetic plastic surgeon inspires  confidence in the patient regarding his success as a surgeon and his awareness of contemporary trends. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the day of the procedure, rest assured that the surgeon and everyone connected with the procedure will be correctly attired.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At all times, the enviornment of a cosmetic plastic surgeon&#039;s office adheres stringently to its highly covetted Quad A rating. This rating document should be prominently displayed in the physician&#039;s suite. If the patient can&#039;t see it, ask for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosmetic plastic surgeons do not wear lab coats during consultations because their patients are healthy and not requiring treatment at that time. The initial visit is the opportunity for the patient to discuss their concerns while being examined by the surgeon. The chaparone who attends the surgeon at this time is often neatly dressed in business attire.</p>
<p>By being well dressed, the cosmetic plastic surgeon inspires  confidence in the patient regarding his success as a surgeon and his awareness of contemporary trends. </p>
<p>On the day of the procedure, rest assured that the surgeon and everyone connected with the procedure will be correctly attired.</p>
<p>At all times, the enviornment of a cosmetic plastic surgeon&#8217;s office adheres stringently to its highly covetted Quad A rating. This rating document should be prominently displayed in the physician&#8217;s suite. If the patient can&#8217;t see it, ask for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve White</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/10/nyc-docs-ditching-white-coat-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-67842</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a doc for 25 years now, and I ditched the white coat after only a couple of years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Reason: if it&#039;s over 50 degrees outside, I sweat. And the white coat makes me sweat more. I dislike that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It has nothing to do with separating myself from a patient, or professionalism, etc. I&#039;m just uncomfortable wearing the darned things.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My usual uniform is a blue oxford shirt and khaki slacks. My patients, the nurses, everyone, knows this is my uniform, and it doesn&#039;t seem to bother them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a doc for 25 years now, and I ditched the white coat after only a couple of years.</p>
<p>Reason: if it&#8217;s over 50 degrees outside, I sweat. And the white coat makes me sweat more. I dislike that.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with separating myself from a patient, or professionalism, etc. I&#8217;m just uncomfortable wearing the darned things.</p>
<p>My usual uniform is a blue oxford shirt and khaki slacks. My patients, the nurses, everyone, knows this is my uniform, and it doesn&#8217;t seem to bother them.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lawyersux: does your statement mean that only black people bleed on you at work? Wow where DO you work? As for two coats: I know of no professional - or any non professionals who only have two articles of a basic part of their business wardrobe (except shoes maybe?). You&#039;re given two? Great. Buy a few more. And lots of bleach. Also, I would expect someone in &quot;the trenches&quot; to be a good bit less formal than in my doctor&#039;s office - which is what I wrote about. As for pizza guys and their coats? My butcher wears one, too. But not at a doctor&#039;s office or a hospital...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;med24 You&#039;re right - could have been 4th year (but he was really jumpy). I have had experience with non-doctors wearing long coats, but not white. Often horrible shades of mauve or seafoam. I&#039;m sure it happens a lot. Doesn&#039;t mean I think it is appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lawyersux: does your statement mean that only black people bleed on you at work? Wow where DO you work? As for two coats: I know of no professional &#8211; or any non professionals who only have two articles of a basic part of their business wardrobe (except shoes maybe?). You&#8217;re given two? Great. Buy a few more. And lots of bleach. Also, I would expect someone in &#8220;the trenches&#8221; to be a good bit less formal than in my doctor&#8217;s office &#8211; which is what I wrote about. As for pizza guys and their coats? My butcher wears one, too. But not at a doctor&#8217;s office or a hospital&#8230;</p>
<p>med24 You&#8217;re right &#8211; could have been 4th year (but he was really jumpy). I have had experience with non-doctors wearing long coats, but not white. Often horrible shades of mauve or seafoam. I&#8217;m sure it happens a lot. Doesn&#8217;t mean I think it is appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the pizza delivery guys are doctors!  Which would you rather deliver with present day circumstances, a pizza or a baby?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the pizza delivery guys are doctors!  Which would you rather deliver with present day circumstances, a pizza or a baby?</p>
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		<title>By: lawyersux</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/10/nyc-docs-ditching-white-coat-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-67770</link>
		<dc:creator>lawyersux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Europe, pizza delivery guys wear the White coats. The Long ones. Guess they wore the short coats when they were in training to be pizza delivery guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Europe, pizza delivery guys wear the White coats. The Long ones. Guess they wore the short coats when they were in training to be pizza delivery guys.</p>
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		<title>By: medstudent24</title>
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		<dc:creator>medstudent24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was in my doctor&#039;s office last week and saw a tall young man I hadn&#039;t seen before. He was wearing a short white coat. The nurse said &quot;Oh, he&#039;s the intern&quot;. I said, &quot;Really? I bet he&#039;s a 3rd year med student, not an intern.&quot; She asked how I knew and I told her &quot;Look at his coat.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The coat means something. The coat is earned.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The guy coulda been a 4th year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyways, I disagree with you about the white coat.  Everybody and their brother wears it.  Nurses wear it.  Resp techs wear it.  Lab techs wear it.  CNAs wear it.  Phlebotomists wear it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There was a day and age in which only doctors wore the white coat, but then everybody else decided they wanted to wear it too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wearing a white coat means absolutely nothing about your status.  You could be the chief of staff, or you could be a tech with 6 months of training out of high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was in my doctor&#8217;s office last week and saw a tall young man I hadn&#8217;t seen before. He was wearing a short white coat. The nurse said &#8220;Oh, he&#8217;s the intern&#8221;. I said, &#8220;Really? I bet he&#8217;s a 3rd year med student, not an intern.&#8221; She asked how I knew and I told her &#8220;Look at his coat.&#8221; </p>
<p>The coat means something. The coat is earned.&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy coulda been a 4th year.</p>
<p>Anyways, I disagree with you about the white coat.  Everybody and their brother wears it.  Nurses wear it.  Resp techs wear it.  Lab techs wear it.  CNAs wear it.  Phlebotomists wear it.</p>
<p>There was a day and age in which only doctors wore the white coat, but then everybody else decided they wanted to wear it too.</p>
<p>Wearing a white coat means absolutely nothing about your status.  You could be the chief of staff, or you could be a tech with 6 months of training out of high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Criminallopath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Criminallopath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you wasting your time with them?  Take the weekend &quot;plastics&quot; or &quot;cosmetic surgery&quot; course and start stuffing those bags of saline into the vainglorious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you wasting your time with them?  Take the weekend &#8220;plastics&#8221; or &#8220;cosmetic surgery&#8221; course and start stuffing those bags of saline into the vainglorious.</p>
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		<title>By: lawyersux</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/10/nyc-docs-ditching-white-coat-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-67761</link>
		<dc:creator>lawyersux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just plain like the long white lab coat. If it&#039;s clean it tells me something about the doctor. If it&#039;s not clean it tells me a lot more about the doctor.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the Level one trauma center/asylum I work in our coats are often covered in bright red blood. The hundreds of african american males in my city who get shot every year come to my ER. We get 2 coats a year as part of our benefits. What does that tell you about the doctors who work here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just plain like the long white lab coat. If it&#8217;s clean it tells me something about the doctor. If it&#8217;s not clean it tells me a lot more about the doctor.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the Level one trauma center/asylum I work in our coats are often covered in bright red blood. The hundreds of african american males in my city who get shot every year come to my ER. We get 2 coats a year as part of our benefits. What does that tell you about the doctors who work here?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just plain like the long white lab coat. If it&#039;s clean it tells me something about the doctor. If it&#039;s not clean it tells me a lot more about the doctor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I my doctor&#039;s office there is a uniform for every employment level. The administrative staff wear a certain color of scrubs. The nursing staff wears a different color. So you always have some idea of the job and skills of the person you&#039;re talking with. The physicians all wear the long white lab coat.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was in my doctor&#039;s office last week and saw a tall young man I hadn&#039;t seen before. He was wearing a short white coat. The nurse said &quot;Oh, he&#039;s the intern&quot;. I said, &quot;Really? I bet he&#039;s a 3rd year med student, not an intern.&quot; She asked how I knew and I told her &quot;Look at his coat.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The coat means something. The coat is earned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just plain like the long white lab coat. If it&#8217;s clean it tells me something about the doctor. If it&#8217;s not clean it tells me a lot more about the doctor.</p>
<p>I my doctor&#8217;s office there is a uniform for every employment level. The administrative staff wear a certain color of scrubs. The nursing staff wears a different color. So you always have some idea of the job and skills of the person you&#8217;re talking with. The physicians all wear the long white lab coat.</p>
<p>I was in my doctor&#8217;s office last week and saw a tall young man I hadn&#8217;t seen before. He was wearing a short white coat. The nurse said &#8220;Oh, he&#8217;s the intern&#8221;. I said, &#8220;Really? I bet he&#8217;s a 3rd year med student, not an intern.&#8221; She asked how I knew and I told her &#8220;Look at his coat.&#8221; </p>
<p>The coat means something. The coat is earned.</p>
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		<title>By: Fastolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fastolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have to depend on the nature of the doctor.  I view the doctor&#039;s white coat as something the doctor doesn&#039;t mind getting dirty.  If I have a spot, or an ooze, or something, the coat suggests the doctor isn&#039;t going to mind getting up close and personal to investigate or treat it.  An expensive suit sends the opposite message.  If I were in his place, I wouldn&#039;t want to get near a patient that might get my expensive suit dirty.  This changes way the patient (well, me, at least) looks at the doctor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, when you&#039;re just going in for some consultation, or seeing a doctor that isn&#039;t normally touching you, the white coat isn&#039;t necessary and I wouldn&#039;t mind at all if he or she were dressed nicely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It might, however, just serve to point out that the doctor is rich, and the patient is not.  This might negatively impact the relationship a little bit if the patient is sensitive to that sort of thing.  But in some fields (cosmetic surgery), it probably wouldn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have to depend on the nature of the doctor.  I view the doctor&#8217;s white coat as something the doctor doesn&#8217;t mind getting dirty.  If I have a spot, or an ooze, or something, the coat suggests the doctor isn&#8217;t going to mind getting up close and personal to investigate or treat it.  An expensive suit sends the opposite message.  If I were in his place, I wouldn&#8217;t want to get near a patient that might get my expensive suit dirty.  This changes way the patient (well, me, at least) looks at the doctor.</p>
<p>Now, when you&#8217;re just going in for some consultation, or seeing a doctor that isn&#8217;t normally touching you, the white coat isn&#8217;t necessary and I wouldn&#8217;t mind at all if he or she were dressed nicely.</p>
<p>It might, however, just serve to point out that the doctor is rich, and the patient is not.  This might negatively impact the relationship a little bit if the patient is sensitive to that sort of thing.  But in some fields (cosmetic surgery), it probably wouldn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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