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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64798</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way I though anon 7:35 had some excellent ideas on changing the status quo. Interesting how nobody really picked up on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way I though anon 7:35 had some excellent ideas on changing the status quo. Interesting how nobody really picked up on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64797</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come now do your really believe your own garbage. This may come as a shock to you but human beings are made and &quot;fixed&quot; the same way whether it be in the USA, Norway, or Brazil even if the legal systems are different. Just because in Norway the gov. picks up the majority of the claim while in the US it is individual insurance doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t figure out relative rates of claims (excuse the double negative).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come now do your really believe your own garbage. This may come as a shock to you but human beings are made and &#8220;fixed&#8221; the same way whether it be in the USA, Norway, or Brazil even if the legal systems are different. Just because in Norway the gov. picks up the majority of the claim while in the US it is individual insurance doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t figure out relative rates of claims (excuse the double negative).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64779</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no &quot;relative malpractice rates&quot; because private insurers aren&#039;t paying the victim&#039;s bill, the govt. is.  There is nothing remotely relative about them at all.  Which is why your comparisons to foreign countries are idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no &#8220;relative malpractice rates&#8221; because private insurers aren&#8217;t paying the victim&#8217;s bill, the govt. is.  There is nothing remotely relative about them at all.  Which is why your comparisons to foreign countries are idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64766</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is common sense because he said so. This joker is not interested in figuring out relative malpractice rates and how they compare with ease of filing a claim and Universal care availability. he interested in playing perpetual devi&#039;s advocate. Trust me, he will be all about &quot;give me the evidence&quot; when it supports his arguement..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is common sense because he said so. This joker is not interested in figuring out relative malpractice rates and how they compare with ease of filing a claim and Universal care availability. he interested in playing perpetual devi&#8217;s advocate. Trust me, he will be all about &#8220;give me the evidence&#8221; when it supports his arguement..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64750</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s simple common sense&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh come now. Depending on the country, filing a claim maybe little more than filling out paperwork without the need to get a legal person involved at all. Do you honestly think you can say &quot;it&#039;s common sense&quot; without any comparison data at all is appropriate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s simple common sense&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh come now. Depending on the country, filing a claim maybe little more than filling out paperwork without the need to get a legal person involved at all. Do you honestly think you can say &#8220;it&#8217;s common sense&#8221; without any comparison data at all is appropriate?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple common sense.  Again, the bulk of most awards in our system our medical bills.  Take out the medical bills and why would 90% of the people go through the ordeal?  Why would any plaintiff&#039;s lawyer take the case?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Plus, some of those systems have no-fault compensation akin to our workers&#039; comp system.  So again, no need to file a claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple common sense.  Again, the bulk of most awards in our system our medical bills.  Take out the medical bills and why would 90% of the people go through the ordeal?  Why would any plaintiff&#8217;s lawyer take the case?</p>
<p>Plus, some of those systems have no-fault compensation akin to our workers&#8217; comp system.  So again, no need to file a claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64735</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 10:30:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your statement on 10:40&lt;br/&gt;&quot;If you haven&#039;t figured out that universal healthcare in other countries is why there are fewer malpractice claims, then you&#039;re not very informed.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not being argumentative. I simply have never heard of any study that correlates universal care with claim number (the word &quot;lawsuit&quot; would probably not be analogous given differnce in countries legal systems). Feel free to elaborate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 10:30:</p>
<p>Your statement on 10:40<br />&#8220;If you haven&#8217;t figured out that universal healthcare in other countries is why there are fewer malpractice claims, then you&#8217;re not very informed.&#8221; </p>
<p>I am not being argumentative. I simply have never heard of any study that correlates universal care with claim number (the word &#8220;lawsuit&#8221; would probably not be analogous given differnce in countries legal systems). Feel free to elaborate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You didn&#039;t elaborate on any data that supports those countries with Universal Care have fewer suits.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That was your claim, not mine.  The &quot;claims&quot; in Norway may well be the equivalent of &quot;lawsuits&quot; here.  But you can&#039;t give a straight across comparison of nations with very different situations in terms of how their legal systems operate and how health care is delivered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You didn&#8217;t elaborate on any data that supports those countries with Universal Care have fewer suits.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was your claim, not mine.  The &#8220;claims&#8221; in Norway may well be the equivalent of &#8220;lawsuits&#8221; here.  But you can&#8217;t give a straight across comparison of nations with very different situations in terms of how their legal systems operate and how health care is delivered.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/07/more-atla-defensive-medicine-is-hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-64727</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t understand is why medical schools are turning out all these young physicians with the idea that it&#039;s not just good but expected of them to practice defensive medicine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Kevin has only been in practice a couple years and he can talk nothing except malpractice and defensive medicine. That tells me he hasn&#039;t been in medicine long enough to be burned out to the point of just not caring anymore.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He is still very much, I would think, under the influence of his training. so, why are doc&#039;s being trained in this fashion?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s almost like you are being taught (brainwashed) to believe you have no self-worth and your education can&#039;t be trusted. That you can&#039;t rely on what you know to make proper diagnosis. There is a big difference between the experienced Doc&#039;s and the newer ones.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why are you not being taught how to have faith and trust your judgement as a physician? Do you learn any hands on at all? Is it just order every test you can think of and send to every specialist available?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why is med school teaching everyone to distrust the public so completely?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One more question, why do you think the way you practice doesn&#039;t effect negatively the health care crisis in   this country? When you order all these high priced tests and procedures that you know are worthless what are you doing to the ins. companies, and to people&#039;s out of pocket? You are surely adding more than your share of problems to a system that you repeatedly tell us is so broken. If ordering tests, refering to specialists, and having procedures done is what you call being a physician now then maybe the NPs and PAs can do your jobs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why medical schools are turning out all these young physicians with the idea that it&#8217;s not just good but expected of them to practice defensive medicine.</p>
<p>Dr. Kevin has only been in practice a couple years and he can talk nothing except malpractice and defensive medicine. That tells me he hasn&#8217;t been in medicine long enough to be burned out to the point of just not caring anymore.</p>
<p>He is still very much, I would think, under the influence of his training. so, why are doc&#8217;s being trained in this fashion?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like you are being taught (brainwashed) to believe you have no self-worth and your education can&#8217;t be trusted. That you can&#8217;t rely on what you know to make proper diagnosis. There is a big difference between the experienced Doc&#8217;s and the newer ones.</p>
<p>Why are you not being taught how to have faith and trust your judgement as a physician? Do you learn any hands on at all? Is it just order every test you can think of and send to every specialist available?</p>
<p>Why is med school teaching everyone to distrust the public so completely?</p>
<p>One more question, why do you think the way you practice doesn&#8217;t effect negatively the health care crisis in   this country? When you order all these high priced tests and procedures that you know are worthless what are you doing to the ins. companies, and to people&#8217;s out of pocket? You are surely adding more than your share of problems to a system that you repeatedly tell us is so broken. If ordering tests, refering to specialists, and having procedures done is what you call being a physician now then maybe the NPs and PAs can do your jobs!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t elaborate on any data that supports those countries with Universal Care have fewer suits. Samson in Norway has stated that the ease in filing claims results in increased claims (granted this is not quite the same as filing a &quot;lawsuit&quot; but it appears that is not something that can be readily done in Norway). He doesn&#039;t give supporting evidence either. Without supporting evidence all you are providing is your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t elaborate on any data that supports those countries with Universal Care have fewer suits. Samson in Norway has stated that the ease in filing claims results in increased claims (granted this is not quite the same as filing a &#8220;lawsuit&#8221; but it appears that is not something that can be readily done in Norway). He doesn&#8217;t give supporting evidence either. Without supporting evidence all you are providing is your opinion.</p>
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