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		<title>By: WilliamManginoMD</title>
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		<description>Dr. Heit, and many others, have recently talked about the use of &quot;Civil Standards&quot; of conviction in order to gain a conviction in cases where doctors are prosecuted for &#039;overprescribing&#039; opioids [ OxyContin, morphine. Vicoden etc. ].&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  This is a problem for everyone in this country. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Doctors who practice legitimate pain medicine - and prescribe high doses of opioids - are being systematically forced to stop prescribing for one reason only.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  The statutes, in all states -  and federal law as well,do not specifically describe ANY DOSAGE beyond which a doctor can venture in order to be considered to be within the &#039;meaning of the statute.&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  This may come as a surprise to the readers - but it is absolutely true -- there are NO boundaries defined by dosage limits.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Add to this the fact that VA guidelines for opioid prescribing allow and suggest very high dosages as &#039;median&#039; amounts needed to treat pain. We are talking in the neighborhood of 400 - 500 milligrams daily of OxyContin and morphine. That would be the range of five or six 80mg. OxyContin tablets - daily. Thats about 56 pills every two weeks or 112 pills a month or about 1424 pills a year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Chronic pain specialists may have as many as 200-250 patients; seen every two weeks. 200 times 56 = over 10,000 pills - every two weeks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Those kinds of numbers really bother federal and state prosecutors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  The problem is that the laws, under which they try to destroy legitimate pain doctors,really don&#039;t have any &#039;teeth.&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Congress never intended for doctors to have to prove their innocence. When the drug prescribing laws were passed they were intended to do a couple of things-and only a couple of things:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  1- Prohibit doctors from prescribing to KNOWN addicts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  2- Prohibit doctors from prescribing &quot;Outside the Bounds&quot; of legitimate medical practice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  THATS IT FOLKS - NOTHING MORE &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  There is no federal or state law-or DEA policy that prohibits doctors from prescribing to addicts who also have a legitimate chronic pain syndrome [ low back disc herniation etc. ]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Now - getting back to those VA guidelines, I mentioned above, they are based on government funded and sponsored research studies with controls and definitive outcomes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Add to that the fact that The American Pain Society and most certified pain experts [ M.D.&#039;s who specialize only in pain management ] have gone on record specifically stating that &quot;High dose opioid therapy is legitimate medical practice.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Lets also throw in the fact that everbody has a different need for opioid dosages which is genetically determined [ lots and lots of bona fide medical and genetics articles support this statement ]- and the propensity toward addiction is probably genetically determined in any given population. [ genetic receptor polymorphism ]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; So the question to you is - If we are a &#039;Nation of Laws&#039; then which law allows - within the definition of that law - a doctor to be convicted of &#039;overprescribing&#039; if he has studied and practiced pain theory, examined each patient and believed, in his heart, that those patients needed the medicine to alleviate their pain and suffering?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  The answer is - NO LAW, JACK !!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Why is this YOUR PROBLEM? - Simple; the more the prosecutors fuck doctors around the less likely you will be able to get the drugs when you legitimately need them - because without basing their prosecution on facts - but rather - myth and prejudice &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   OH!!! THAT DOCTOR PRESCRIBED 8000 PILLS IN 7 MONTHS - AND OH!!! THAT PROFIT MOTIVATED  GREEDY DOCTOR SAW 200 PEOPLE IN JUST 14 DAYS &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  then what doctor will continue to allow prosecutors to create stories - which, by the way, the stupid juries usually buy -&#039;lock, stock, and barrel,&#039;- that the doctor is unable to defend himself against.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  These allegations [ civil standards based on the opinions of so-called government medical experts who will say &quot;No, that doctor prescribed dosages higher than I or others would prescribe&quot; therefore he violated the standards of medical practice ]     are &#039;Civil Standards&#039; that were never intended to convict doctors based on a difference of medical opinion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Simply stated - this cannot be grounds for conviction of any doctor under any currently constructed state or federal statute.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  The reasons why pain specialists are inundated with patients is because &quot;Joe GP&quot; won&#039;t even give most patients a tylenol #3 for fear of getting people addicted or themselves getting arrested or because they aren&#039;t comfortable prescribing medications they know little about- in many cases - not all. These faers are not based upon solid reasoning -period.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Here&#039;s what the laws of &#039;overprescribing mean-by intent of congress.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; It means that the only real standard for convicting a doctor should be based upon the fact that the doctor knows that patient XYZ is coming to the office today to get a prescription that the doctor already knows that patient XYZ does not need.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; That is the &#039;Criminal Standard.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Heit, and many others, have recently talked about the use of &#8220;Civil Standards&#8221; of conviction in order to gain a conviction in cases where doctors are prosecuted for &#8216;overprescribing&#8217; opioids [ OxyContin, morphine. Vicoden etc. ].</p>
<p>  This is a problem for everyone in this country. </p>
<p>  Doctors who practice legitimate pain medicine &#8211; and prescribe high doses of opioids &#8211; are being systematically forced to stop prescribing for one reason only.</p>
<p>  The statutes, in all states &#8211;  and federal law as well,do not specifically describe ANY DOSAGE beyond which a doctor can venture in order to be considered to be within the &#8216;meaning of the statute.&#8217;</p>
<p>  This may come as a surprise to the readers &#8211; but it is absolutely true &#8212; there are NO boundaries defined by dosage limits.</p>
<p>  Add to this the fact that VA guidelines for opioid prescribing allow and suggest very high dosages as &#8216;median&#8217; amounts needed to treat pain. We are talking in the neighborhood of 400 &#8211; 500 milligrams daily of OxyContin and morphine. That would be the range of five or six 80mg. OxyContin tablets &#8211; daily. Thats about 56 pills every two weeks or 112 pills a month or about 1424 pills a year.</p>
<p>  Chronic pain specialists may have as many as 200-250 patients; seen every two weeks. 200 times 56 = over 10,000 pills &#8211; every two weeks.</p>
<p>  Those kinds of numbers really bother federal and state prosecutors.</p>
<p>  The problem is that the laws, under which they try to destroy legitimate pain doctors,really don&#8217;t have any &#8216;teeth.&#8217;</p>
<p>  Congress never intended for doctors to have to prove their innocence. When the drug prescribing laws were passed they were intended to do a couple of things-and only a couple of things:</p>
<p>  1- Prohibit doctors from prescribing to KNOWN addicts.</p>
<p>  2- Prohibit doctors from prescribing &#8220;Outside the Bounds&#8221; of legitimate medical practice.</p>
<p>  THATS IT FOLKS &#8211; NOTHING MORE </p>
<p>  There is no federal or state law-or DEA policy that prohibits doctors from prescribing to addicts who also have a legitimate chronic pain syndrome [ low back disc herniation etc. ]</p>
<p>  Now &#8211; getting back to those VA guidelines, I mentioned above, they are based on government funded and sponsored research studies with controls and definitive outcomes.</p>
<p>  Add to that the fact that The American Pain Society and most certified pain experts [ M.D.'s who specialize only in pain management ] have gone on record specifically stating that &#8220;High dose opioid therapy is legitimate medical practice.&#8221;</p>
<p> Lets also throw in the fact that everbody has a different need for opioid dosages which is genetically determined [ lots and lots of bona fide medical and genetics articles support this statement ]- and the propensity toward addiction is probably genetically determined in any given population. [ genetic receptor polymorphism ]</p>
<p> So the question to you is &#8211; If we are a &#8216;Nation of Laws&#8217; then which law allows &#8211; within the definition of that law &#8211; a doctor to be convicted of &#8216;overprescribing&#8217; if he has studied and practiced pain theory, examined each patient and believed, in his heart, that those patients needed the medicine to alleviate their pain and suffering?</p>
<p>  The answer is &#8211; NO LAW, JACK !!!</p>
<p> Why is this YOUR PROBLEM? &#8211; Simple; the more the prosecutors fuck doctors around the less likely you will be able to get the drugs when you legitimately need them &#8211; because without basing their prosecution on facts &#8211; but rather &#8211; myth and prejudice </p>
<p>   OH!!! THAT DOCTOR PRESCRIBED 8000 PILLS IN 7 MONTHS &#8211; AND OH!!! THAT PROFIT MOTIVATED  GREEDY DOCTOR SAW 200 PEOPLE IN JUST 14 DAYS </p>
<p>  then what doctor will continue to allow prosecutors to create stories &#8211; which, by the way, the stupid juries usually buy -&#8217;lock, stock, and barrel,&#8217;- that the doctor is unable to defend himself against.</p>
<p>  These allegations [ civil standards based on the opinions of so-called government medical experts who will say "No, that doctor prescribed dosages higher than I or others would prescribe" therefore he violated the standards of medical practice ]     are &#8216;Civil Standards&#8217; that were never intended to convict doctors based on a difference of medical opinion.</p>
<p>  Simply stated &#8211; this cannot be grounds for conviction of any doctor under any currently constructed state or federal statute.</p>
<p>  The reasons why pain specialists are inundated with patients is because &#8220;Joe GP&#8221; won&#8217;t even give most patients a tylenol #3 for fear of getting people addicted or themselves getting arrested or because they aren&#8217;t comfortable prescribing medications they know little about- in many cases &#8211; not all. These faers are not based upon solid reasoning -period.</p>
<p>  Here&#8217;s what the laws of &#8216;overprescribing mean-by intent of congress.</p>
<p> It means that the only real standard for convicting a doctor should be based upon the fact that the doctor knows that patient XYZ is coming to the office today to get a prescription that the doctor already knows that patient XYZ does not need.</p>
<p> That is the &#8216;Criminal Standard.&#8217;</p>
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