GM employees were fucking around all day in high school if they even graduated…physicians were studying there asses off…gm employees deserve what they get…no pain no gain…the same goes for the rest of you losers…if you actually worked in school you could have done something productive with your lives rather than doing nothing and wasing your life away…
I wonder what it feel like to die knowing you have done nothing productive with your lives…well, I guess the attorneys and other assorted retiree losers that post here will know soon enough…
The attorneys haven’t done nothing with their lives. I don’t know about the other docs on this site but my anus is irritated as a result of what the “attorneys” have done.
I wonder what it feels like to spend all your life working a job that you hate as badly as you hate yours. How can you speak about how much you do for the good of all man kind when you hate so badly doing it?
Most of us don’t make the money you make, but, we do have our own homes, we actually own things to furnish them with. We have wonderful children, we coach baseball, we go to Christmas parties, we take vacations,we have bank accounts, our children will go to college and we like our jobs…So who is the loser?
“I wonder what it feels like to spend all your life working a job that you hate as badly as you hate yours”
None of us ever say we dislike our jobs. We are just making honest comments about how much better the system would work for all (patients, doctors, the government who pays for this mess) if attorneys weren’t changing the way we do our everyday jobs. I don’t lose any sleep over practicing dfensive medicine. I’m forced to do it, I don’t even think about it anymore. I just blog about how the system could be fixed if I didn’t have to.
Anon at 3:21 - GM employees include engineers who design cars some with advanced degree…
Forget GM - some commercial research labs layed off a number of scientists as well. Ours got rid of a number of physicists a few years back “why spend money on research that can be done at universities” and other researchers and engineers because “folks in India can do it as well but for less money”.
But of course, from your point of view only the doctors work hard in school. The rest of us are just lazy. Including scientists or engineers.
“wonderful children, coaching baseball, going to Christmas parties, taking vacations” you took all that away to your side .
Although it is not a perfect analogy.After creating massive havoc in the lives of jews,when they were barely surviving in the slums,scrounging for food.Nazis started saying “look at those filthy jews See how uncivilized they are. how they live in those slums Do you thing they deserve anything” - the perfect recipe for a new wave of torture.
Some of us don’t whine. We act on it. This year, I stopped taking Medicare patients. Some of us can afford to do it. Our clinic is busy enough to be able to take only patients with non Medicare insurance.
“We are just making honest comments about how much better the system would work for all (patients, doctors, the government who pays for this mess) if attorneys weren’t changing the way we do our everyday jobs.”
Of course that “all” doesn’t include patients who are injured by malpractice. Or are physicians and their insurers just going to start writing checks to cover those victims’ losses in terms of economic damages, past and future medical bills once they are uninsurable? Funny, I don’t see any of you rushing to do that until an attorney gets involved. Or maybe you just forgot about the people actually injured by malpractice. Probably too busy counting those extra dollars in your pockets that you’d have if you didn’t have to bear responsibility for your negligence.
“Of course that “all” doesn’t include patients who are injured by malpractice.”
When are you going to start helping “victims”. Last night I took care of 5 teenagers who were all shot in the chest or belly. It didn’t even make it on the news. These are victims. You “help” individuals lucky enough to have been affected by a bad outcome where someone with deep pockets can be held responsible. Then you take 30-40% off the top. That’s not helping, that’s greed. If you want to “help” someone, get off your ass and use your Law Degree to make politicians give a shit when Bullets Pierce black skin. Right now you’re only “helping” yourself.
Yes, most victims of malpractice with million dollar verdicts are lucky! They have won the cosmic lottery. Sure, they may not be able to walk, see, eat solid foods, and may be looking at requiring lifetime care which they can’t afford, and are unable to work at a job they love, hug their kids, make love to their wife, etc but they have won big!! All because their physician was drunk, stoned, had worked 24 hours without a break, or maybe, like you, just didn’t give a damn about them and didn’t much care what kind of a job he did.
And you were ready to pay them all of that out of your paycheck, so they didn’t even need a lawyer, did they?
3) Typical GM salary for entry level, blue collary, no college experience w/ overtime is close to 100k per year
4) GM guys get free healthcare
5) GM guys get lifetime pension
6) GM guys get buyout clauses if they get laid off (50k up to 150k)
7) GM guys get free college education
GM guys get paid full time salary if they are laid off, even if they stay at home all day and do nothing for hte company
Primary care doctors make about 30k per year more than these GM workers. The same GM workers who get free healthcare, lifetime pension, buyouts, full time pay while not working, zero college, zero grad school, zero debt, zero malpractice insurance, zero lawsuit risk.
” All because their physician was drunk, stoned, had worked 24 hours without a break”
ANother realistic statement, Sodomite. OK, Mr. Statistics. Show me the study which shows what percent of lawsuits involve impaired physicians? Does that mean OB_GYNS typically have drinking problems but Dermatologists don’t? And my problem is that I do care. If I didn’t care I wouldn’t give a shit that you sodomites have ruined our healthcare system by turning it into a lawyer- avoidance system.
Agreed. How many GM workers would be woken up repeatedly during the night on a regular basis with questions and requests such as?:
“My kid has a fever” “I have a really bad headache” “My back really hurts can you call in a prescription for Vicodin” “Can you come into the hospital and perform an appendectomy on a no-pay patient or evacuate a subdural on a homeless drunk, or see the hospital admistrators wife with abdomianl pain who has a history of fibromyalgia and irritable bowel”
Comparing GM workers with physicians is misguided.A much better comparing sample should have been people with similar years of education and similar challenging jobs.But they are hard to find.
I personally think malpractice or maloccurance insurance should have been rather a shared responsibility so long you have human beings caring for others.Even you replace all doctors with fully mechanized robots, EBM being fed to them you can’t achieve 100% efficiency.When a patient has to be treated as it is now ,the patient should understand that things can go wrong. Feeding the entitlement mentality only benefits the lawyer pimps.
comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; insetad they sue us trying to use us as someking of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back…
“Comparing GM workers with physicians is misguided.A much better comparing sample should have been people with similar years of education and similar challenging jobs.But they are hard to find.”
You’re right - that’s why the physician shouldn’t have made the comparison.
“comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; insetad they sue us trying to use us as someking of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back… “
“You’re right - that’s why the physician shouldn’t have made the comparison”
I thought the comparison was a rebuttal to the point made by some non-physicians in the column.
“”comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; ‘insetad’ they sue us trying to use us as ‘someking’ of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back… “
I’m sure your momma is proud.”
Anon 7:42 can’t be a physician , ‘insetad’ should be ‘someking’ different and definitely without a Momma. It is more lawyerly talk.
You’ve not read my post. How it’s possible .I am one of the few non-anonymice here . OK.I understand. You are the one without MOMMA. You just swallowed my bait.
All I know is, the hell with medicine. I’m becoming a sodomite’s Bitch. Mark Lanier just parlayed his bullshit sweet-talk into another multi-million dollar win. He told the jury “you can’t expect to see a “V” for Vioxx on the guy’s Coronary Arteries, you just have to trust me. And they did. Another 12 Suckers!
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If I was a GM employee I’d have a pension and a lifetime guaranteed health insurance. I have neither.
Until they file bankruptcy you would, that is.
You, on the other hand, have the ability to make 3-10x more per year.
So, sitting here today, and assessing the current GM position, which would you rather be?
GM employees were fucking around all day in high school if they even graduated…physicians were studying there asses off…gm employees deserve what they get…no pain no gain…the same goes for the rest of you losers…if you actually worked in school you could have done something productive with your lives rather than doing nothing and wasing your life away…
Post of the year above.
I wonder what it feel like to die knowing you have done nothing productive with your lives…well, I guess the attorneys and other assorted retiree losers that post here will know soon enough…
The attorneys haven’t done nothing with their lives. I don’t know about the other docs on this site but my anus is irritated as a result of what the “attorneys” have done.
I wonder what it feels like to spend all your life working a job that you hate as badly as you hate yours. How can you speak about how much you do for the good of all man kind when you hate so badly doing it?
Most of us don’t make the money you make, but, we do have our own homes, we actually own things to furnish them with. We have wonderful children, we coach baseball, we go to Christmas parties, we take vacations,we have bank accounts, our children will go to college and we like our jobs…So who is the loser?
you are a scary person!
“I wonder what it feels like to spend all your life working a job that you hate as badly as you hate yours”
None of us ever say we dislike our jobs. We are just making honest comments about how much better the system would work for all (patients, doctors, the government who pays for this mess) if attorneys weren’t changing the way we do our everyday jobs. I don’t lose any sleep over practicing dfensive medicine. I’m forced to do it, I don’t even think about it anymore. I just blog about how the system could be fixed if I didn’t have to.
Anon at 3:21 - GM employees include engineers who design cars some with advanced degree…
Forget GM - some commercial research labs layed off a number of scientists as well. Ours got rid of a number of physicists a few years back “why spend money on research that can be done at universities” and other researchers and engineers because “folks in India can do it as well but for less money”.
But of course, from your point of view only the doctors work hard in school. The rest of us are just lazy. Including scientists or engineers.
“wonderful children, coaching baseball, going to Christmas parties, taking vacations” you took all that away to your side .
Although it is not a perfect analogy.After creating massive havoc in the lives of jews,when they were barely surviving in the slums,scrounging for food.Nazis started saying “look at those filthy jews See how uncivilized they are. how they live in those slums Do you thing they deserve anything” - the perfect recipe for a new wave of torture.
what goes around comes around.
anon6:01, I don’t get it either..Have read it three times and STILL don’t get it!
Anirban, please look up Godwin’s Law.
Godwin’s Law:
“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”
Anirban: Don’t compare the lawyers to the nazis. You’re being unfair to the nazis.
Some of us don’t whine. We act on it. This year, I stopped taking Medicare patients. Some of us can afford to do it. Our clinic is busy enough to be able to take only patients with non Medicare insurance.
Godwin’s law, LOL! I need to remember that. It’s sure to come in handy again some day.
“We are just making honest comments about how much better the system would work for all (patients, doctors, the government who pays for this mess) if attorneys weren’t changing the way we do our everyday jobs.”
Of course that “all” doesn’t include patients who are injured by malpractice. Or are physicians and their insurers just going to start writing checks to cover those victims’ losses in terms of economic damages, past and future medical bills once they are uninsurable? Funny, I don’t see any of you rushing to do that until an attorney gets involved. Or maybe you just forgot about the people actually injured by malpractice. Probably too busy counting those extra dollars in your pockets that you’d have if you didn’t have to bear responsibility for your negligence.
“Of course that “all” doesn’t include patients who are injured by malpractice.”
When are you going to start helping “victims”. Last night I took care of 5 teenagers who were all shot in the chest or belly. It didn’t even make it on the news. These are victims. You “help” individuals lucky enough to have been affected by a bad outcome where someone with deep pockets can be held responsible. Then you take 30-40% off the top. That’s not helping, that’s greed. If you want to “help” someone, get off your ass and use your Law Degree to make politicians give a shit when Bullets Pierce black skin. Right now you’re only “helping” yourself.
Yes, most victims of malpractice with million dollar verdicts are lucky! They have won the cosmic lottery. Sure, they may not be able to walk, see, eat solid foods, and may be looking at requiring lifetime care which they can’t afford, and are unable to work at a job they love, hug their kids, make love to their wife, etc but they have won big!! All because their physician was drunk, stoned, had worked 24 hours without a break, or maybe, like you, just didn’t give a damn about them and didn’t much care what kind of a job he did.
And you were ready to pay them all of that out of your paycheck, so they didn’t even need a lawyer, did they?
Thanks for putting it all in perspective, doc!
Comparison to GM workers is not a good idea
1) Most GM workers have zero college education
2) Most GM workers barely graduated high school
3) Typical GM salary for entry level, blue collary, no college experience w/ overtime is close to 100k per year
4) GM guys get free healthcare
5) GM guys get lifetime pension
6) GM guys get buyout clauses if they get laid off (50k up to 150k)
7) GM guys get free college education
Primary care doctors make about 30k per year more than these GM workers. The same GM workers who get free healthcare, lifetime pension, buyouts, full time pay while not working, zero college, zero grad school, zero debt, zero malpractice insurance, zero lawsuit risk.
Comparing GM workers to doctors is ridiculous
” All because their physician was drunk, stoned, had worked 24 hours without a break”
ANother realistic statement, Sodomite. OK, Mr. Statistics. Show me the study which shows what percent of lawsuits involve impaired physicians? Does that mean OB_GYNS typically have drinking problems but Dermatologists don’t? And my problem is that I do care. If I didn’t care I wouldn’t give a shit that you sodomites have ruined our healthcare system by turning it into a lawyer- avoidance system.
“Comparing GM workers to doctors is ridiculous”
Agreed. How many GM workers would be woken up repeatedly during the night on a regular basis with questions and requests such as?:
“My kid has a fever”
“I have a really bad headache”
“My back really hurts can you call in a prescription for Vicodin”
“Can you come into the hospital and perform an appendectomy on a no-pay patient or evacuate a subdural on a homeless drunk, or see the hospital admistrators wife with abdomianl pain who has a history of fibromyalgia and irritable bowel”
I wonder.
Comparing GM workers with physicians is misguided.A much better comparing sample should have been people with similar years of education and similar challenging jobs.But they are hard to find.
I personally think malpractice or maloccurance insurance should have been rather a shared responsibility so long you have human beings caring for others.Even you replace all doctors with fully mechanized robots, EBM being fed to them you can’t achieve 100% efficiency.When a patient has to be treated as it is now ,the patient should understand that things can go wrong. Feeding the entitlement mentality only benefits the lawyer pimps.
comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; insetad they sue us trying to use us as someking of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back…
Bow at your feet? ha ha ha
“Comparing GM workers with physicians is misguided.A much better comparing sample should have been people with similar years of education and similar challenging jobs.But they are hard to find.”
You’re right - that’s why the physician shouldn’t have made the comparison.
“comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; insetad they sue us trying to use us as someking of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back… “
I’m sure your momma is proud.
“You’re right - that’s why the physician shouldn’t have made the comparison”
I thought the comparison was a rebuttal to the point made by some non-physicians in the column.
“”comparing anyone with physicians is comparing apples to oranges…these patients should be bowing at our feet; ‘insetad’ they sue us trying to use us as ‘someking’ of lotetry substitute…oh well, we’ll just have to practice defensive medicine/referrals and screw them back… “
I’m sure your momma is proud.”
Anon 7:42 can’t be a physician , ‘insetad’ should be ‘someking’ different and definitely without a Momma. It is more lawyerly talk.
Yeah, your posts are certainly illustrative of the high standards of physicians when it comes to grammar.
You’ve not read my post. How it’s possible .I am one of the few non-anonymice here .
OK.I understand. You are the one without MOMMA. You just swallowed my bait.
All I know is, the hell with medicine. I’m becoming a sodomite’s Bitch. Mark Lanier just parlayed his bullshit sweet-talk into another multi-million dollar win. He told the jury “you can’t expect to see a “V” for Vioxx on the guy’s Coronary Arteries, you just have to trust me. And they did. Another 12 Suckers!
Keep your eye on the ball…order more tests!
“I’m becoming a sodomite’s Bitch. “
I bet you’ve been somebody’s bitch your whole life.