Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60598 Anonymous Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:02:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60598 "You, too, have a congenital neuron deficiency."<br/><br/>The best doctor I ever knew had club feet. He seemed OK in spite of the markers. “You, too, have a congenital neuron deficiency.”

The best doctor I ever knew had club feet. He seemed OK in spite of the markers.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60597 Anonymous Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:46:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60597 Anon 7:06, if you cannot find all the obvious inconsistencies in the man's writing,you won't be able to understand. You, too, have a congenital neuron deficiency. Anon 7:06, if you cannot find all the obvious inconsistencies in the man’s writing,you won’t be able to understand. You, too, have a congenital neuron deficiency.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60595 Anonymous Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60595 "You should have filed a lawsuit. <br/>On the other hand, I don't believe this story." <br/><br/>This is the kind of decisive thinking we are expected to trust? “You should have filed a lawsuit.
On the other hand, I don’t believe this story.”

This is the kind of decisive thinking we are expected to trust?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60594 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60594 "does kevin have liability if a mentally unhinged person posts on his blog and he doesn't do anything about it?"<br/><br/>What if Crazy Man takes your specfic and labled diagnosis of his condition seriously?<br/>What if he finds someones old prescription of HADOL as prescribed and posted here?<br/>What if no one informs him that it very likely will effect his existing diabetic condition?<br/>What if he dies as a result?<br/>What if they seize kevins server?<br/>What if the court finds that you guys are guilty of practicing medicine over the internet and from your hospital's computer to boot?<br/>What if they discover you were claiming to be working 80 hours a week on MC patients?<br/>Where will this madness end? “does kevin have liability if a mentally unhinged person posts on his blog and he doesn’t do anything about it?”

What if Crazy Man takes your specfic and labled diagnosis of his condition seriously?
What if he finds someones old prescription of HADOL as prescribed and posted here?
What if no one informs him that it very likely will effect his existing diabetic condition?
What if he dies as a result?
What if they seize kevins server?
What if the court finds that you guys are guilty of practicing medicine over the internet and from your hospital’s computer to boot?
What if they discover you were claiming to be working 80 hours a week on MC patients?
Where will this madness end?

]]> By: Gasmanhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60582 Gasman Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:45:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60582 There is a lot of 'shit-happens' in medicine. The human body is imperfect, it becomes diseased and mortality is after all 100%.<br/><br/>Removing the wrong kidney is no different than my mechanic replacing the wrong headlight. The mind wanders, gets distracted, misreads a film that is on the light box backward etc. Because of the relative irreversibility of wrong site surgery, a much greater vigilance is warranted in medical practice than in many other service industries. Wrong site surgery is always malpractice, falling below the standard of care, and the health care system must do everything possible to restore as much function as possible for the injured. Financial payment, to the extent that it can mitigate for the consenquences of the error should be offered freely without waiting for the conclusion of litigation that might be years in comming. <br/><br/>I must disagree with the somewhat inhinged posters who insist upon physically punishing members of the physician's family. Should we have members of the orthopedic group 'work on your knees' if you don't pay your bill. I think not. There is a lot of ‘shit-happens’ in medicine. The human body is imperfect, it becomes diseased and mortality is after all 100%.

Removing the wrong kidney is no different than my mechanic replacing the wrong headlight. The mind wanders, gets distracted, misreads a film that is on the light box backward etc. Because of the relative irreversibility of wrong site surgery, a much greater vigilance is warranted in medical practice than in many other service industries. Wrong site surgery is always malpractice, falling below the standard of care, and the health care system must do everything possible to restore as much function as possible for the injured. Financial payment, to the extent that it can mitigate for the consenquences of the error should be offered freely without waiting for the conclusion of litigation that might be years in comming.

I must disagree with the somewhat inhinged posters who insist upon physically punishing members of the physician’s family. Should we have members of the orthopedic group ‘work on your knees’ if you don’t pay your bill. I think not.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60581 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:26:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60581 "FYI there was no lawsuit. We refused to even talk to the hospital's Risk Management. Me, my brother and dad paid for what MC and his insurance didn't."<br/><br/>You should have filed a lawsuit. You need to find out from a lawyer if you can still file a lawsuit.<br/><br/>On the other hand, I don't believe this story. My gut feeling is that this man's story is a fabrication to elicit response from doctors and I think he has<br/>Borderline Personality. “FYI there was no lawsuit. We refused to even talk to the hospital’s Risk Management. Me, my brother and dad paid for what MC and his insurance didn’t.”

You should have filed a lawsuit. You need to find out from a lawyer if you can still file a lawsuit.

On the other hand, I don’t believe this story. My gut feeling is that this man’s story is a fabrication to elicit response from doctors and I think he has
Borderline Personality.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60580 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60580 And if a doctor tells his morbidly obese patient that he or she is fat, the doctor is disciplined by the Board of Medical Licensure. It's getting hard here to be a Doc. And if a doctor tells his morbidly obese patient that he or she is fat, the doctor is disciplined by the Board of Medical Licensure. It’s getting hard here to be a Doc.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60578 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60578 What the hell are you rambling on about?<br/><br/>Medical licenses are suspended and revoked all the time. Check your state board's website. My old FP had to retire from practicing in my state because it was determined that he had a consentual sexual relationship with a patient (who later became his fiance). <br/><br/>Driver's licenses are revoked for intentional illegal acts (DWI) or gross patterns of negligence leading to repeated citations. I can assure you a similar standard is in place with medical boards. We don't strip people of their driver's licenses because they are caught speeding once or accidently cause a collision. What the hell are you rambling on about?

Medical licenses are suspended and revoked all the time. Check your state board’s website. My old FP had to retire from practicing in my state because it was determined that he had a consentual sexual relationship with a patient (who later became his fiance).

Driver’s licenses are revoked for intentional illegal acts (DWI) or gross patterns of negligence leading to repeated citations. I can assure you a similar standard is in place with medical boards. We don’t strip people of their driver’s licenses because they are caught speeding once or accidently cause a collision.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60576 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:24:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60576 "I love it when someone uses religion in a logical argument. I believe that negates anything rational you have to say."<br/><br/>I think what confused this poster was that they could not believe that more than one person (Crazy Man) could hold the belief that MDs were generally arrogant. A common mistake among MDs where arrogance is rampant. It is understandable that when bathed daily in arrogance a level that would disgust an outsider probably is viewed as mild compaired to what acute levels exist in that enviorenment. However do not get me wrong in MHO it is the TRUE kings and queens of arrogance that we need for they are often the best at what they do. It is an admiration for that success and tolerated arrogance that others want to emulate. It is the wanna-bes of the world that think they are good that cause the trouble. In the real world arrogance will not sustain your position in life. In the medical world it is believed that if you earn an MD and granted a license no one has the right to take it away for any reason. In most states if you do certain things you automatically loose your driving license. It is enforced everyday in number. But MDs loosing their lic.? hardly ever happens. Instead the profession sacrifices its immunity to civil attack for immunity from criminal prosicution. It is quite a clever stragic approach. The MD side may loose a battle here and there, but their side only sustains SOME material loses never looses a soldier to death. On the patient side they often loose all their material, sustain great disfiguring, life altering injuries and many die.<br/>Without criminal prosicution on this battlefield MDs should not feel too badly about having to deal with the civil complaints. If lawyers a so devilish who does MDs get to handle their cases? “I love it when someone uses religion in a logical argument. I believe that negates anything rational you have to say.”

I think what confused this poster was that they could not believe that more than one person (Crazy Man) could hold the belief that MDs were generally arrogant. A common mistake among MDs where arrogance is rampant. It is understandable that when bathed daily in arrogance a level that would disgust an outsider probably is viewed as mild compaired to what acute levels exist in that enviorenment. However do not get me wrong in MHO it is the TRUE kings and queens of arrogance that we need for they are often the best at what they do. It is an admiration for that success and tolerated arrogance that others want to emulate. It is the wanna-bes of the world that think they are good that cause the trouble. In the real world arrogance will not sustain your position in life. In the medical world it is believed that if you earn an MD and granted a license no one has the right to take it away for any reason. In most states if you do certain things you automatically loose your driving license. It is enforced everyday in number. But MDs loosing their lic.? hardly ever happens. Instead the profession sacrifices its immunity to civil attack for immunity from criminal prosicution. It is quite a clever stragic approach. The MD side may loose a battle here and there, but their side only sustains SOME material loses never looses a soldier to death. On the patient side they often loose all their material, sustain great disfiguring, life altering injuries and many die.
Without criminal prosicution on this battlefield MDs should not feel too badly about having to deal with the civil complaints. If lawyers a so devilish who does MDs get to handle their cases?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/wrong-kidney-was-removed-in-operation.html#comment-60574 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:33:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20224.html#comment-60574 Crazy man (me) was NOT the person that posted the biblical post. My mothers tragedy was human error but how do you ever get to the point of forgiveness if the perpertrator never can admit their mistake.<br/>This is the key to the whole problem. We all make mistakes but the great and skilled intellect MDs that simply can never say "I screw up - I'm sorry" perpetuate the great wall. And it it this that makes MDs a target for peoples biblical vengence. Crazy man (me) was NOT the person that posted the biblical post. My mothers tragedy was human error but how do you ever get to the point of forgiveness if the perpertrator never can admit their mistake.
This is the key to the whole problem. We all make mistakes but the great and skilled intellect MDs that simply can never say “I screw up – I’m sorry” perpetuate the great wall. And it it this that makes MDs a target for peoples biblical vengence.

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