Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60584 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:26:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60584 What was the name of the actor in Il Postino? I believe he had cardiomypopathy, and in fact was dying of it during the filing of that lovely movie. He declined a heart transplant. I am not aware of him having shared his reasons for doing so. (It may have been something as simple as fear- though arguably a man who makes a conscious decision to forego a lifesaving operation is fearless.)<br/><br/>I'd like to think that he declined out of recognition that his time was up, and that to muster the tremendous resources neeed to save his one life was not justified. That is at any rate, how I hope that I will face the crisis should it ever arise. What was the name of the actor in Il Postino? I believe he had cardiomypopathy, and in fact was dying of it during the filing of that lovely movie. He declined a heart transplant. I am not aware of him having shared his reasons for doing so. (It may have been something as simple as fear- though arguably a man who makes a conscious decision to forego a lifesaving operation is fearless.)

I’d like to think that he declined out of recognition that his time was up, and that to muster the tremendous resources neeed to save his one life was not justified. That is at any rate, how I hope that I will face the crisis should it ever arise.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60577 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:27:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60577 I am sorry you don't get "the most good for the most people" argument. you are too close minded to comprehend it. In reality, I think that is just what you want history to show but you are letting the emotional issue of a single case compromise the health of all the others. I am sorry you don’t get “the most good for the most people” argument. you are too close minded to comprehend it. In reality, I think that is just what you want history to show but you are letting the emotional issue of a single case compromise the health of all the others.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60570 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:18:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60570 So, only the very weathy should be allowed to save their children?<br/><br/>I wonder what our future generations will think about us when they look back over history. They will surely think that we were the most barabaric of all creatures.<br/><br/>"In the year 20??, they let middle class and poor people (and their children) lay in the street and die, while Drs. walked over their little corpses to save their own asses."<br/><br/>Its your profession your ruining, have at it! So, only the very weathy should be allowed to save their children?

I wonder what our future generations will think about us when they look back over history. They will surely think that we were the most barabaric of all creatures.

“In the year 20??, they let middle class and poor people (and their children) lay in the street and die, while Drs. walked over their little corpses to save their own asses.”

Its your profession your ruining, have at it!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60565 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60565 Yes, certain things I would try to move heaven and earth for. Other things are clearly futile and almost nearly torture that family members will put their loved ones or children through.<br/><br/>I think it should also be my responsibility to pay for it and not expect the taxpayer to fork out 250K that would immunize and entire third world country.<br/><br/>If you abuse drugs and get liver failure from HEP C does society owe you a new liver? Or if you are noncompliant and don't control your HTN and DM does society owe you a new kidney? We can't afford all of these things. Yes, certain things I would try to move heaven and earth for. Other things are clearly futile and almost nearly torture that family members will put their loved ones or children through.

I think it should also be my responsibility to pay for it and not expect the taxpayer to fork out 250K that would immunize and entire third world country.

If you abuse drugs and get liver failure from HEP C does society owe you a new liver? Or if you are noncompliant and don’t control your HTN and DM does society owe you a new kidney? We can’t afford all of these things.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60561 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60561 Anon 11:07, I see your point. I'm sure that doctor would move heaven and earth to get a donor organ if it were his own child, even if he won't say it.<br/><br/>However, that line of thinking is simply not a practical way of determing appropriate public policy. Its the classic prisoner's dilemma. What is good for one is not usually good for all, but to do what is good for all requires a certain individual sacrifice that people aren't typically willing to make when it is their welfare (or a loved one's) on the line. <br/><br/>That guy is probably right about what would be best for the majority of people in the long run, even though it comes at the profound detriment to a very few. But if it was my mother, yeah, rational logic probably would go out the window... Anon 11:07, I see your point. I’m sure that doctor would move heaven and earth to get a donor organ if it were his own child, even if he won’t say it.

However, that line of thinking is simply not a practical way of determing appropriate public policy. Its the classic prisoner’s dilemma. What is good for one is not usually good for all, but to do what is good for all requires a certain individual sacrifice that people aren’t typically willing to make when it is their welfare (or a loved one’s) on the line.

That guy is probably right about what would be best for the majority of people in the long run, even though it comes at the profound detriment to a very few. But if it was my mother, yeah, rational logic probably would go out the window…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60559 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60559 Ahhhhhhhh, your so good at skirting a question you don't want to answer. Face it, you and I both know that if you were the subjective person seeking an organ donor, your attitute would be to find one as quickly as possible. Atleast for most humans it would be. <br/><br/>Are you human? Ahhhhhhhh, your so good at skirting a question you don’t want to answer. Face it, you and I both know that if you were the subjective person seeking an organ donor, your attitute would be to find one as quickly as possible. Atleast for most humans it would be.

Are you human?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60553 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:34:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60553 "And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be "gangbanging" anyone?"<br/><br/>Ahh, the Oprah defense...If it was your mother....that's how the lawyer sodomites poke us up the butt... “And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be “gangbanging” anyone?”

Ahh, the Oprah defense…If it was your mother….that’s how the lawyer sodomites poke us up the butt…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60542 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60542 "And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be "gangbanging" anyone?"<br/><br/>It depends on whether your wife was free that night or not... “And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be “gangbanging” anyone?”

It depends on whether your wife was free that night or not…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60541 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:58:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60541 And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be "gangbanging" anyone? And if it was your child that needed a new organ to suvive, would you be “gangbanging” anyone?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/03/michelle-talks-about-doing-anesthesia.html#comment-60534 Anonymous Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/03/20216.html#comment-60534 It's not doctors that push for organ transplants...it is usually these pushy nurse practitioners or some allied type of medical worker who works for the transplant service...they have some kind of affiliation with critical care units and when there is a suitable candidate they get called in and then gang-bang the person on the ventilator and their family... It’s not doctors that push for organ transplants…it is usually these pushy nurse practitioners or some allied type of medical worker who works for the transplant service…they have some kind of affiliation with critical care units and when there is a suitable candidate they get called in and then gang-bang the person on the ventilator and their family…

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